A white woman was shot by a cop in Washington

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  1. Mr.Incognito

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    You're leaving out one important word " MOSTLY "
    CNN apply it to this incident and the previous ones .
     
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    " mostly peaceful " which is correct
     
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    LOL.
     
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    Very true...

    The vast majority of Black Lives Matter protests—more than 93%—have been peaceful, according to a new report published Thursday by a nonprofit that researches political violence and protests across the world.

    The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) analyzed more than 7,750 Black Lives Matter demonstrations in all 50 states and Washington D.C. that took place in the wake of George Floyd’s death between May 26 and August 22.

    Their report states that more than 2,400 locations reported peaceful protests, while fewer than 220 reported “violent demonstrations.” The authors define violent demonstrations as including “acts targeting other individuals, property, businesses, other rioting groups or armed actors.” Their definition includes anything from “fighting back against police” to vandalism, property destruction looting, road-blocking using barricades, burning tires or other materials. In cities where protests did turn violent—these demonstrations are “largely confined to specific blocks,” the report says.
     
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    Gave me a chuckle too.
     
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    Garner was resisting. George Floyd was not.

    More white people are killed by cops (of all races) than are black people. White people are not generally torching 7-11s when one is killed by police. More often than not, the facts bear out that the shooting was justified because the white subject was resisting violently and officers were able to articulate a threat.
     
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    More white people are killed by cops every year than black people. Systemic racism.
     
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    The cop was suspended until the investigation has been concluded. Pretty much standard no matter who gets shot.
     
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    GMAFB with this right wing nonsense! This woman was part of an insurrectionist mob, some of whose members were armed with bombs, guns, zip ties. She was WARNED by the cops/security NOT to enter the LOCKED & BARRICADED door, of which she tried to breach. She was a 14 year military vet, she should have KNOWN better. But stoked up on Trump tripe and a mob behind her, she was living out her Turner Diaries fantasy.

    She learned a hard lesson about the differences between fantasy and reality.

    She was NOT shot by cops for a misdemeanor offense in a lone pedestrian situation. Deal with it.
    Your "comparsion" is just a lot of convoluted tripe found on the pages of Storm Front, the broadcasts of Fox News, or any OP Ed in a Murdock owned publication. In other words, baloney.
     
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    Yes.
    They were immediately put on leave.
    Who knows?
    Doubtful
    If it draws ratings, or can be run as Orange Man Bad pieces, yes. The likely hot take on both the officer and the woman will be that they are both victims of Trump and the GOP.
    Unknown. What is known is that it appears she was climbing through a window when shot, which makes it very unlikely that she was also holding a deadly weapon, and, that it does not appear that any other armed officer saw her as a deadly threat that required a deadly force response. Normally in a police shooting, every officer there similarly perceives the threat and empties their weapons which is why police shootings often have a shockingly high bullet count. My understanding is that is not the case here. My guess is that whoever took this shot deeply regrets it.

    On a lighter note:

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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...p-in-washington.583365/page-3#post-1072360330
     
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    The video of the shooting has been aired (with a graphic warning) on MSM outlets.

    The woman was part of the mob attempting to breach the door. The windows were broken out and they were attempting to rip the head gear off the officers. There was a representative in the hall behind them and Capitol police were attempting to hold their position. A plain clothed officer fired the shot.

    In that moment one hell of a lot of restraint was exhibited.
     
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    Its not terrorism. Its insurrection.

    What AnTIFA does is Terrorism. Terrorism is attacking innocent civilians to terrorize and use fear for political gain. Insurrection is revolting against government.

    Look it up. Both are bad but I have a special dislike of terrorism. Attacking innocent people who cannot defend themselves is especially bad. Generally, revolts are an indication of an underlying issue that the government is failing to deal with and so they are partially at fault for their own situation. Also governments have a lot more power to defend themselves.
     
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    Every time a black person is shot by the police, and the officer is white, the liberal mainstream press, New York Times, Washington Post, etc., always, always mentions the race of the cop. They always say something like, "There was a Black person shot by a white police officer." (Not sure why they capitalize the word "black" ; it's pretty dumb, but mainstream now.) The point is that your side tries to, by mentioning the races, implies that the cop shot the black person because of racism.

    Say her name!!!!!!!

    Oh, wait.

    She's white.

    Never mind.

    Carry on.
     
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    Ashli Babbit. Ashli Babbit. No Justice No Peace. No Racist Police.
     
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    You keep parroting that blindly, but you can't PROVE it. PROVE that the guard that shot her DID NOT HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE. PROVE that the guard has a history of shooting unarmed white folk for misdemeanor offenses or totally innocent of a crime. PROVE IT or just continue with this David Duke wanna be blather.

    Babbit was a right wing fool living out her Turner Diaries fantasy with a mob intent on insurrectionist actions....she was a 14 year military veteran who should ahve known better (what happened to that oath she took about protecting America? HTF do you protect a country by attacking it's Capitol because you don't like how the legal vote turned out?)...she learned a hard lesson.
     
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    This is best the right wing extremist has to offer...a false whine that they're victims.
     
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    Her death is a tragedy, but she was very much the instigator. She was trying to smash her way through a door in the Capitol building and was repeatedly warned by police. She was part of an armed mob that had broken into he Capitol building in an attempt to shut down Congress and possibly looking to harm members of Congress or staffers. Pipe bombs had been found at DNC & RNC headquarters. It was certainly reasonable for police to assume she might pose a threat to the people the ywere employed to protect.
    There are a wide range of circumstances where I would argue limited or no justification for this shooting, but the person who could have prevented this tragedy was the woman herself.
     
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    insurrection
    [ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n]
    NOUN
    1. a violent uprising against an authority or government.
    terrorism
    [ˈterəˌrizəm]
    NOUN
    1. the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
    Here's the thing: journalists on the scene were attacked by the mob...they're not part of the government. Fascists and authoritarian gov'ts systmatically silence the press through intimidation or outright violence/incarceration. Seems they had an "underlying issue" with EVERYONE WHO DIDN'T AGREE WITH THEM OUTRIGHT. Remember, they're pissed that McConnell and the GOP leadership finally conceded the election....hell, even the right wing loaded SCOTUS ruled that Dump legally lost the election.

    The Capitol cops are use to dealing with protests on a daily basis. These yahoos were acting as if Dump wasn't illegally re-instated, they were going to hold the gov't hostage. (guys with zip ties, guns, bombs were found there). That's sounds like a bit of terrorism to me.
     
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    No justice no peace.
     
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    No Justice No Peace No Racist Police. Say Her Name. Ashli Babbit. Say Her Name. Ashli Babbit. Justice for Ashli. Bring her killers to justice.
     
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    If this incident was about race at all, which I doubt, it was about a woman assuming white privilege would stop her getting shot while she was in the process of forcing entrance to a restricted area of the seat of government.
    My guess is that race didn't come into the thought process of the police officer at all and it was protection of himself and others that was his main concern
    Considering the images of violence we have seen it is surprising that more of the people storming the building weren't shot.
    The police seemed to have shown uncharacteristic restraint. The black cop being chased up several flights of stairs by a mob of angry protesters didn't even draw his weapon. If the races had been reversed on that occasion and restraint had been shown to the same level it would be even more surprising.
     
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