A woman who gets an abortion is like an Indian giver

I don't think you have the capacity for understanding that....sorry,

 

You are in love with the word "Fetus" which in "spirit" is the exact same thing as an "unborn child". It's just easier for you to term it as an object so you can end a life.

 

Not a parasite....a human being and a miracle that he is alive and not killed in the womb by you and your mentors.

 

By using the term fetus.....which is only a partial description. Those fetuses you so wantonly murder are also children. It's just like ISIS and Hitler dehumanizing those humans of the Jewish race "Zionists".....it makes them easier to murder.

 

If we do not allow those who harm children to have anything to do with their care, how much more is it unethical to allow those who do not believe that zygote is a little human and then seemingly have a change of heart to have children or simply never have children to take care of children in ANY capacity? They have killed them in their most innocent stages of life, yet, they are teachers, professors, counselors, and providers for the very zygotes they once considered too much of a burden and justified with conditioning and belief that they are not life?

 

Because she is a woman, she is stuck no matter what? Inherent to being a woman means that she must reproduce no matter what
her thoughts about are about the pregnancy, even rape? Of course of course. Others decide what happens to a woman's body, yes? Women have no choice, sort of like cattle.

 

It becomes a curse if she is saddled for the rest of her life. Or of course she could always dump the unwanted child into an orphanage.
By the way, how many unwanted children, who live with this all their lives, have you adopted to nurture, feed, send to college, etc.?

 

Misspell. thanx. Yes it is truly unfortunate, but the choice isn't up to you, is it? Or is it.

 

Is it ethical to only allow the mother to choose life or death, then expect the father to share responsibility?

 

If a child is a curse, is it ethical for a someone who sees a child as a curse to allow them to have anything to do with the care of children or young adults, including education, healthcare, and counseling to name a few?

 

YOU referred to it as a "child" NOT an UNBORN child.

That is the EMOTIONAL term.

I use the grownup/scientific/factual term, fetus.

If you had read my posts UNemotionally you would see that I have no need to objectify a fetus since I think it's perfectly OK for a woman to abort it.

 

No matter how much you emotionally object with no facts, the fact is the fetus has a parasitic relation with the woman it's in. It uses her body to sustain it's life.

It is NOT a "miracle" it is alive, it is science.

I have no "mentors".....another word you seem to be confused about (like your confusion over "parasite")

 

She must only reproduce if her egg is fertilized. As you can see, she really has not choice in that. She must do something to prevent it, but she can't stop the new life from wanting to survive and making every possible attempt. It takes intervention to stop it. The life inside her has part of her within it so that her body cannot fully reject it unless she is unhealthy.

The preprogrammed dna is in charge of that, not her brain. If that isn't a wonderful and special thing, nothing is. It is so important, our survival depends on it working properly and that new life being trained to respect new life.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
I have no need to "dehumanize " a fetus. WHERE did you get that stupid idea?

No, it is a complete description of a fetus. We weren't talking about animal fetuses, we are talking about HUMAN fetuses so I didn't think I would have to explain that to you.

Is it dehumanizing to call a teenager a teenager? Is it dehumanizing to call a toddler a toddler?

Why do you reject science so strenuously?

So now you have to resort to untruths? I never "wantonly" wanted to kill children.

I was wondering when the Hitler crap would come up....you are right on schedule with others who have no good argument.

Your denigration of what born humans endured, your comparing the horrible suffering of born people to the quick painless death of a fetus in abortion is disgusting.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Yup, it lives off the woman it's in, it's a parasite.

"Parasite " is not always an insult




No matter how anyone VIEWS it, the relationship between woman and her fetus is parasitic....


It's unfortunate that people who are ruled by emotion rather than facts can't get over the fact that "parasite" and "parasitic" are scientific terms and don't always apply to your brother-in-law who lives in your spare room and doesn't pay rent..

What choice? It seems the emotionally overwrought in here are the ones who want to CHOOSE what a word means.....

 

Absolutely, unless she chooses abortion.

 

Are you going to adopt her unwanted child?

 

Then likewise, it is ethical to allow the father to choose to abort the baby. Unless you disagree with logic?

 

No, I'm for her taking responsibility for her own actions, not me. I didn't have sex with her, nor did I force her to have sex. If a man is responsible for his actions, why isn't a woman?

 

Is an abortionist a child molester?

Yes!


Would you allow a child molester to take care of your children's needs when they are ill, educate them, or counsel them?

 

A doctor who performs an abortion is killing a fetus, not a child....you are, in your desperation in having nothing , going into a fantasy world..

 

Are you accusing me of being "emotionally overwrought"? I am not an emotional anything. I believe that a woman has the right to
choose. It is her body, not yours. And I don't believe that a man, such as those here, have the right to decide about a woman's body. After all, it isn't you who will get pregnant. Are you willing to adopt the child? This is where my emotion enters the fray.

 

Women do take responsibility for their actions when they abort a fetus they do not want or can't afford.

 

There is no logic in that.

NO one decides what a woman should do with her body but the woman.

Her body does not become public property because she became pregnant.


You never addressed your statement: ""It doesn't remove her from responsibility inherent to being a woman."""

WTF does that mean...there is NO responsibility inherent in being a woman.