ABC/WaPo Poll: Support for Border Wall Soars Among Swing Voters

Quite True.

Secure Borders Protect Immigrant Communities

 

So thoughts & prayers are enough for you. Typical.

It's a shame cons don't care about Americans killing fellow Americans. Sad.

 

I don't care whether there is one or not, but I also don't object to it and find it strategically valuable. It takes time to dig those tunnels. Time that our patrol agents can use to apprehend those illegally crossing. And yes, we can have a physical barrier on our Northern side of the border as well. I'm all for protecting the entire US coastal lines.

See, I find nothing 'racist' in it and in fact the framers will be stunned that in 2019, Americans refuse to act and disagree on the right of the homeland to defend itself. This country is sinking faster than the titanic. We can't even defend ourselves now.

We can send 2,000 men and women to potentially die thousands of miles from their home with no strategic objective but GOD FORBID we build a fence around the US borders.

 

We don’t really need one on the northern border.

For the record I am not against a wall coupled with technology — I am however against shutting down the government over it. I also think we should bring all troops home from hostile territories.

 

Fair enough. I too think the problem is nuanced, and that everything should be thrown at the sink, not just a wall. But this nearly one month shutdown over not even 5% of the US Budget is sickening. Also, the lack of respect for the executive branch in general is also sickening.

Legislators may of course negotiate/write the bills, but to think that the POTUS is obligated to pass them? Of course he's not. That's why they have the supermajority override(which they know they lack.) So unless Dems want to sit here forever, they have to up their offer.

And Trump might have to take less, but he'll extort full leverage before doing so.

 

Its a disgusting perversion of our democracy what mitch is doing. I didn’t pay attention to politics before Obama so I cannot attest to their treatment but he wasn’t treated with any respect by the republican, much worse than trump is getting.
For the record I didn’t like Obama either.

The shutdown isn’t involving trump at the moment as he has not received a bill to sign or veto. The senate via mitch is refusing to floor a vote on a bill that previously passed the senate with unanimous bipartisan support.
We have one branch of government openly ignoring their responsibility to the people of the country to protect the executive branch. Separation of powers has basically been destroyed.

 

I personally think the POTUS would veto. While the POTUS has not vetoed anything yet(which BTW, is another reason I'm pissed.) This Congress could've gotten ANYTHING done in two years, but didn't. The only reason I think Trump would veto here, is that he insists on his 5 billion dollars. Mitch McConnell certainly thinks so, and that's why he held it from the floor.

The easy solution is to simply give him the 5 billion and call it a day. If they care for their constiutents like they claim.

Here's a in-the-middle proposition for them: A 2.5 Billion recurring fund for the wall over 10 years.(IE: The 25 billion would be gradually paid yearly.) It won't break the budget, and it's a perfect compromise.(Well, presuming they can spare an extra billion.)

If they can't agree to that proposition, that means it's about wall/Trump and they own it equally with him. And then I say "F it, and this government. I vote no confidence, EU style"

 

Trump couldn't make Mexico pay for the wall and so he is demanding that the US taxpayer pay twice as much.

 

Speaking of which, can't we just send thoughts and prayers to address the crisis at the border?

 

The democrat position is objectively unreasonable. Trump has said he will compromise with them. The same democrats last voted for 315 miles of border wall. Pelosi is afraid of her far left contingency in Congress the hate Trump and why, in that interview with Trump, Pelosi, and Schumer she wanted the cameras removed and to take the discussion private and also why she doesn't want the SOTU address. She doesn't want the American people to know how shabby the democrat position really is.

 

Which is within the power of the president and how it should happen. A single member from the 535 member legislative should not be excercising powers of the president. It’s a political move to shield trump and nothing more. Then it should go back to congress and where they can either override his veto (they have the numbers to do so) or work on compromise.

The same could be said for the republicans. There is already a wall, we don’t need to shut down airport security and not pay 800,000 Americans over a presidential demand.

We need a comprehensive immigration package. A wall alone won’t do it; national mandatory e-verify with employer sanctions based on a net percentage of their operating income, quicker deportations, revoking birthright citizenship when neither parent is a citizen, ending all financial assistance to illegals (if states buck it we end federal funds to the states), increased work visas and faster legal immigration procedures.

Things neither party is actually pushing for as neither party wants to address the actual issue.

The shutdown is completely on mitch on the moment. He isn’t allowing government to function as intended.

 

After grounding Peloser today, I suspect more people will tune into whats going on with border security funding.

 

Open Borders Democrats are fine with all the rapes and murders. They would rather shutdown the Federal Government than secure the Border.

 

Largest single group of migrants ever tunnels under border wall in Arizona, says Border Protection
The largest single group of asylum seekers ever to cross into the U.S. tunneled beneath the border wall near San Luis, Arizona, on Monday, voluntarily turning themselves into Customs and Border Protection, according to the agency.

Migrants can be seen marching toward Border Patrol agents by the hundreds, according to video obtained by ABC News. Smugglers dug a series of seven holes, only a few feet long beneath the steel border fence, with hundreds going beneath the wall and a smaller number clambering over it, according to CBP.
https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-container/US/largest-single-group-migrants-tunnels-border-wall-arizona/story?id=60462672

 

Trump claims walls work, but the discovery of border tunnels says otherwise

As President Donald Trump continues to make the case for a wall on the United States' southern border, Mexican and US authorities are uncovering smuggling tunnels beneath it.

In a tweet Wednesday, Trump pointed to Europe while insisting border walls “have all been recognized as close to 100% successful,” even after the president was told by a Border Patrol agent while in Texas last week about the recent discovery of two drug-smuggling tunnels beneath the border there.
Also last week, Mexican federal police posted a tweet about the discovery of a smuggling tunnel under the state of Sonora's border with Arizona.

While standing 70 feet underground in the Galvez smuggling tunnel between Tijuana and San Diego, Border Patrol agent Lance Lenoir told NBC News last year that border fencing will not stop drug smugglers.

"As long as they get from point A to point B in secret, they're going to do it," Lenoir said. "They're always tunneling somewhere."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...scovery-border-tunnels-says-otherwise-n959311

 

Looks like the next caravan got through the southern border of Mexico.

 

Trump supports building walls in strategic areas. Pelosi is for no more walls at all (not one inch).

Most Americans prefer Trump’s position.

 

Is it better to have walls and make them work for years building a tunnel, or is it better to not have walls and let them just walk across the border?

 

They also dug under walls, which doesn’t take years. Almost 400 illegals just recently did this as you well know since I posted it above.

 

Build the wall.

 

Build it tall.

 

If you ignore the fact that the majority of people don't want it built, the increase in popularity of people wanting it built can also be disregarded.

 

It getting built wont be disregarded.

 

Pelosi said today she was for some kind of high tech wall, but not a physical barrier. Is that like a hologram?

 

A majority of Americans do not want a 2,000 mile wall from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico.

But a majority of Americans support expanding the walls in strategic areas.

Right now, Pelosi isn't offering one inch of new wall.