Abortion is a very Lucrative Business....

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  1. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    There were 1.21 million abortions performed in the U.S. in the year 2005. In 2005, the average cost of a nonhospital abortion with local anesthesia at 10 weeks of gestation was $413. The Women's Medical Center estimates that a 2nd trimester abortion costs up to $3000 (with the price increasing the further along the pregnancy goes). If we take the $413 average for 1st trimester abortions and use a $3000 average for 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions, here's what we get: $438 million is spent each year on first trimester abortions and $393 million is spent on late term abortions. That means that each year in the U.S., the abortion industry brings in approximately $831 million through their abortion services alone. If you add in the $337 million (or more) that Planned Parenthood (America's largest abortion provider) receives annually in government grants and contracts, the annual dollar amount moves well past 1 billion.

    By last count, Planned Parenthood (a tax exempt organization!) has $951 million in total assets!

    In addition to organizations, there are also a lot of individual doctors getting rich off of abortion. In his now-classic book, Pro-life Answers to Pro-choice Arguments, Randy Alcorn points out, "In 1992, when the average annual income for a physician in Portland, Oregon, was just under 100,000, a local abortionist testified in court that in the previous year his income had been $345,000. One physician says, 'an abortionist, working only twenty or thirty hours a week, with no overhead, can earn from three to ten times as much as an ethical surgeon.'" Abortion has been a very lucrative business for a very long time.

    And, sadly, one of the reasons performing abortions is so lucrative is that abortionists are less likely to be sued for malpractice. No matter how badly some women are hurt, they do not want to reveal the fact that they had abortions. So they stay out of court. And therefore the abortionists stay out of trouble.

    The facts about the profitability of the abortion industry may help us to understand a few things about feminist resistance to free speech specifically, and to the free flow of information generally.

    Mike S. Adams... "Letters to a Young Progressive"
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    And considering it still costs far more to deliver a baby in a hospital with prenatal care costs (Can be from $1000-$15,000 and even more depending on if you have insurance and what hospital you go to and whether or not you face complications) you'd think they would be more interested in encouraging women to give birth if money and profit was solely their interest here.

    Hmm...think that might have something to do with all the pro-lifers shaming women who have had abortions and making abortion seem like a bad thing?
     
  3. WhatNow!?

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    LOL! A conservative who hates profit...all of a sudden he hates PROFIT..LOL!
     
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    All forms of medical treatment in the US is a lucrative business. The only things I see being special about abortion in that is the block on direct federal government funding (which would open more scope for private profiteering) and the vocal condemnation of abortion which, as you mention, could easily help cover-up both medical and financial malpractice.

    I've no idea what the "feminist resistance" bit is about. Surely "feminists" would want to speak out against doctors (primarily men) profiteering from abortion?
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The government grants and contracts have nothing to do with abortion. I know you have heard of the Hyde Amendment which forbids any federal monies being spent on abortion.



    Abortion doctors risk their lives every day; they should receive combat pay. Still, they could make more doing prenatal care and deliveries. They could all also make more if abortion were illegal. You want abortion doctors to get rich? Make it illegal.
     
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    A profit on dead babies.....which you celebrate the rights of women to be able to kill.

    Oh I like a profit...but not on something so heinous as abortion.

    Hey if you think the profit is good...then are you for selling fetal body parts?
     
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    LMAO
    LMAO

    What?????????????

    They risk their lives while they kill lives....comical.

    Hey how many doc's have been killed since 1973? Then compare that to 55 million woman getting abortions. The number is so low it is not worth mentioning.

    What you say is absurd.....they deserve prison.
     
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    Prison is reserved for law-breakers.
     
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    You think clinic violence is justified, then...
     
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    Anyone with a reasonable and or moralistic bone in their body would know that profit off the murder of our children is to be shunned. I compare these abortionists to the drug dealing head honchos of cartels that profit handsomely off of the ruined lives and often suicidal scenarios of the addicts who bought their drugs with stolen money, and who often go through hell in rehab centers and or prisons. Abortionists are the more reprehensible of the two for the simple reason that their profit motive relies on the actual physical murder of an individual while the life ruination of the victims of drug lord actions are at best classified as being unintended consequences of a weak minded person..
     
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    So the profit Exxon made off exploding oil rigs that killed people and ruined the Gulf of Mexico because they ignored safety features is OK with you.

    So clothing workers in Bangladesh being crushed to death is fine with you because JC Penney makes profit off them...

    Ignoring safety regulations and blowing up a town in Texas and killing actual people is OK with you because they made a profit.

    But doctors doing a legal medical procedure get paid and that bothers you....There is no logic or sanity in that.

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    ONLY after she LEFT her clinic.....
     
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    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    You're giving examples of people dying as a result of accidents, while I'm giving you examples of over 1 1/2 million abortion murders per year that were performed as premeditated actions by greedy and immoral/ungodly doctors. There is no comparison here whatsoever.
     
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    Those were accidents CAUSED BY greed for profit (ignoring safety regulations, cutting funding of regulatory agencies by Republicans, ANYTHING to increase profit ).

    I consider them murders by premeditated actions by greedy and immoral/ungodly executives. Actual real people died....not clumps of cells.

    Doctors are performing legal medical procedures REQUESTED by the patient.

    Abortion isn't murder....it's legal medical procedure...... the deliberate slaughter of real living humans through corporate greed is legal but actual real living people are dead or their lives destroyed......this affects other people in many ways....abortions affect no one but the woman having the abortion.....



    You have YOUR morals (corporate greed and profit are fine no matter who gets hurt)

    I have mine (an abortion hurts no one, it only affects the woman. Massive salughter for profit (let's not forget war as a big money maker) is immoral and sick....
     
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    Sure it is...like Gosnell..the pro-aborts hero.

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    And that is why you are campaigning to change laws to allow late term abortion...right? That immoral and sick practice should be legal...ya know to allow CHOICE.
     
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    We shall find out at the end of his trial. He has not been found GUILTY as of yet.

    Nobody but you is all upset about late term abortions. Pro-choice people know they're not happening anyway, and certainly will be allowed in cases threatening a woman's health or life, at least that's what SCOTUS has said. Most pro-life people are content to have them criminalized except when the woman's health or life is threatened.
     
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    And of course guilty or not guilty he would have done nothing that you would have found immoral as you condone late term abortions...and I would guess infanticide. So sad grannie. To condone killing a nine month old in the womb...or one that happened to survive a botched abortion...then killing it.
    Wow what a position you defend.
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're making stuff up again. And you should stop guessing since your guesses always assume the worst of women. There will never again be a survivor of a botched abortion, most of the rare survivors were survivors of saline abortions which haven't been done in about 20 years.
     
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    You are for allowing free choice to the woman to abort all nine months...so what did he do wrong in your book?

    I mean where do you come up with this stuff? To say the things you say are just bizarre. If those babies were alive and they can prove that he killed them.....I would say that he BOTCHED THE ABORTION.

    LMAO
     
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    Gosnell did not perform abortions no matter how much people want to call them that. What he did was illegally deliver live born neonates and then stabbed them to death or drowned them. These were not abortions. So he absolutely deserves to go to prison for what he did.

    You can sit here on your high horse all day if you want to and pretend like anyone from the pro-choice crowd supports his malicious crimes but we do not. Stop making ASSumptions.
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Women DON'T freely choose to have abortions all nine months. Why are you speculating about what Gosnell did, he's CURRENTLY on trial? We don't know what he did until the trial is over. You are saying that inducing labor and then killing the born infant is an "abortion."?
     
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    The women came to him to get late term abortions. You condone what they did and why they went to him.

    Your position is all about CHOICE. The choice to kill, right? So anything Gosnell did in your book was not that bad. Right? Come on admit it. You condone abortion throughout the entire pregnancy. So what difference does it make...if he killed it one second before birth or one second after? LMAO

    You are supporting killing this viable child in the womb...and then telling me he did wrong killing it just because it was born alive for a few seconds?

    Oh please tell me your logic on this one. LOL

    Do you think it felt it more pain after it was born..than two second before in the womb?
     
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    Whatever they went to him for they did not receive those services.

    And you condone enslaving women and forcing them to give birth because you had one bad experience in your life, so now you want to take our your personal vengeance on every woman ever.

    Like I said, copy and paste.

    No I want abortion legal so women retain legal authority over their own autonomy and maintain their freedom to make personal medical decisions over what happens to the very intimate inner workings of her body. I want abortion legal so that all women, yes including you, have a choice and are not forced to become second class citizens or broodmare slaves to an authoritarian government.

    Thus the term, pro-choice. Choice to abort or choice to give birth. Choice, choice, choice.

    No. Get off your snarky (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) horse.

    It makes all the difference and you know it.

    Also why do you laugh about this so much? If I didn't know any better you're the one whose thrilled to know that millions of fetuses are being aborted.

    Yes, pro-autonomy. Once they are separated and the neonate is out of the womb it has a legal right to own it's own body.

    I see copy and paste is the only way to deal with you from now on.

    Only 1% of abortions occur in the third trimester, even in countries where there are no laws on abortion. Abortions in the third trimester do not occur for elective reasons, they only occur for serious medical reasons.
     
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    Let's not let ANOTHER thread be hijacked. The topic is Abortion is a very Lucrative Business....
    NOT Gosnell or late term abortions...
     
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    Births cost more because they consume resources, there isn't as much profit as merely killing a baby which takes minimal care and resources. You fail again!

    As far as abortion being a "bad" thing, it is a horrific thing!

    How else could a reasonable person describe the violent killing of a child in utero intentionally?

     
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    Thanks for scolding the 'What'supNow' crowd, but I doubt many here will see the outright greed and immoral actions of these abortionists/murderers and Planned Parenthood in making hundreds of thousands of dollars off of the murder business. Btw, I did notice your own attempt at hijacking this thread by introducing an irrelevant subject of oil corporations into the mix. Notice I didn't give in to your hijacking scheme by responding to that foolishness.
     

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