Abortion is as unjust as slavery. An American historical perspective.

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Miscarriage does the exact same thing as an abortion...so it's all "natural".

    A person forces a woman to give birth by making abortion illegal.

    Yes, even if it's illegal some women will still have abortions but not always safe abortions....but those who want to force women into that position don't care about women and surely don't consider them "precious lives".


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    No, and why would I say she was? That makes no sense at all....IF she had been forced to stay pregnant then she would've been a slave, which is what you want to make women.




    YOU have the warped idea that YOU decide what family and life is all about for everyone else...



    Fine, but no one will be arrested :) :nana:..or tried or incarcerated :)


    You won't understand this but consent to one act is not consent to any other act....you have that right but don't want women to have it....

    THAT is slavery....

    Yes, by making illegal and harder to get you are forcing some women to give birth EXACTLY LIKE SLAVE OWNERS DID ...[/QUOTE]
     
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  2. FoxHastings

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    Right here: """"""""""""So your final solution is to end the life of the unborn children? Not much choice for the unborn. All of us have made the same journey the unborn are on, would you, given the choice, choose to be aborted? If not, why so adamant in promoting the death of the unborn?

    DixNickson, Today at 8:30 AM Report"""""""""""


    That is flamebaiting, I do NOT "promote the deaths of unborns"

    But if you can't be honest you'll never see that.

    Now , what question do I refuse to answer? Or did I answer it and you didn't like the answer?

    What "truth" would hurt my Pro-CHOICE position?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you said..".Miscarriage does the exact same thing as an abortion...so it's all "natural"
    That is like saying ....a bullet to the head does the same thing as Alzheimer disease. It's all natural.
    That's what Hitler thought he was doing when he executed people ....naturally improving the race.
    You are using logic just like Adolph Hitler. How does it feel for a liberal to be disparaged? Looking for a "safe place" now???:???:
     
  4. FoxHastings

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    :) I see you have to make stuff up to have anything to post at all....

    Adolf Hitler believe, as you do , that women's reproduction rights should be eliminated. ....he FORCED birth and he FORCED abortions....you both seem to like force.


    Any more Hitler comments?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I need not respond. You have not made a case how I have ever forced anyone to have a baby. You cannot even show I have a desire to force anyone to have a baby. I do not force anyone into reproduction. Now when you snip the spinal chord of the unborn....that is ending the life, by force of an innocent whose only makeup and desire....is to live.
     
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    So?


    BTW, in abortion the spinal cord isn't cut.....
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In partial birth abortion, it most definitely is. With you it seems anything goes!
     
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    Abortion isn't murder. Please learn the meaning of words before using them.

    If you want abortion banned, then you want to force pregnant women (who want to abort) to give birth. Own it.
     
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    Zeffy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Godwin's Law, you lose.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would prefer to abort those that do not have a respect for life.
     
  11. FoxHastings

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    LOL! So you admit you have no respect for life!!!:roflol:

    Are you AWARE of what you just said ....too hilarious !!! Do you know how ridiculous that statement is !!! You have such great respect for "life" you'd abort people if you could but women shouldn't abort anyone ...HAHAH too funny!!






    We weren't talking about partial birth abortions but I understand you have to wriggle and squirm around the issue since you have nothing, no facts, nothing to back up your silly whining :)

    Hey tell us again how you have so much respect for life that YOU want to ABORT people.....:roflol::roll::nana:
     
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    That would include anti choicers, since they don't respect the woman's life.

    However, you can't abort the born, since abortion is termination of pregnancy.
     
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    That is such a fun statement! Shows that an Anti-Choicer wants a "choice", too !!

    Here's more fun questions:

    Is it "murder" if YOU "abort" a person....you think women murder when they abort , is it murder for you or do you excuse yourself ? :)

    WHY do you feel you should be able to "abort" but women can't.....?
     
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    It not only does that, with respect to the mother, it ends a new life.
     
  15. FoxHastings

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    I don't need to "calm down"....I was laughing at your silly statement. Laughing's good, you should let some in to your life.






    No, you still don't get it, partial birth ABORTION is abortion, no "person" has been born...




    None. Mostly that crap is made up by Anti-Choice sites...but the gullible buy it because it fits their agenda...




    OOHH wow, what an enlightening thought !! If one hasn't been born they wouldn't have experienced life! Really!





    They choose to have an abortion....and IF abortion was ever made illegal the premise is the same as if a person hired a hit man, they're both prosecuted.



    Oh, look, you actually observed that some doctors are women!




    No, they do a legal medical procedure....and I won't go into how no "body parts" were sold off, we are far enough off topic. And you'll try to argue the point with NO facts to back you up.

    To get back to the topic, Anti-Choicers want to restrict women's choices just like slave owners did :)
     
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    Choice is a code word for abortion and abortions were legal prior to RvW decision


    Again "choice" is a code word for "abortion," much nicer sounding than pro-abortion. The "choice" you are offering is "abortion" as birth is the natural preordained conclusion to pregnancy. Birth is not a choice it is the natural conclusion to a pregnancy.

    The goal/purpose of Abortion is to kill the developing human offspring/fetus/infant/child etc. wholly within the womb (save partial birth abortions) is it not? Are you not for abortion?

    :applause:Or are you against abortion?:applause:



    No you did not answer the question. IF you were given the "choice" regarding your human timeline would you choose or support the decision to abort FoxxyH, (obviously you)? Personally I would not nor would I choose it for you but I do wonder as committed as you are to your abortion stance.

    The desire for sin including slavery and abortion all begin/reside in mankind's selfish nature.
     
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    Are you so deeply and tragically committed to abortion that this barbaric act of inhumanity escapes your sensibilities and moral compass? When I think of indefensible acts this is one of those. Your thought, instead, is to dehumanize the child because he or she is outside of and within the birth canal? Not a person, not worthy of personhood...just as Dred Scott and other slaves were thought of too.
     
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    Children ? Really now. There is no child in the early stages of pregnancy. You are merely projecting what might be in the future.
     
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    Abortion is procedure that can end a pregnancy prior to a human being created. The earlier the better.
     
  20. FoxHastings

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    How silly to think there's a need for a "code word".....

    You seem to think you, all by yourself, can rule the world on what words mean (like slave owners who thought they ruled the world).

    Fetus means fetus not baby or child or teenager or potato.

    Choice means choice not abortion not gestation not I drive a Toyota......


    IF YOU really want to convince the world that the word choice doesn't mean choice you have a hard row to hoe...:)

    Maybe you could try "elephant" isn't really "elephant".....that could make you look really smart, too!!!





    "" natural preordained conclusion to pregnancy. Birth is not a choice it is the natural conclusion to a pregnancy"""


    First: who said so ? YOU!!!???:roflol:

    Second: even if that load of crap was true so what? We interrupt "nature" ( your obvious god) all the time...


    What a load of "I'll -try-any-crap-if-it-means-controlling-women"




    No, NO infant or child involved in a abortion....when a person lies from the start the rest of their words mean nothing...

    The purpose of an abortion is to end the life of zygote or fetus.....NOTHING wrong with that....READ THIS, there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.





    Again, your rather stupid attempt at a 'gotcha " moment only works for you because you have no knowledge of what words like "choice" mean.....you don't even know a zygote from a fetus from a teenager...

    My stance as I have clearly put it , is that women have a right to decide to abort or gestate.

    YOU OFFER NO CHOICE, EXACTLY LIKE The SLAVE OWNERS .






    "sin" ? What? I thought you weren't religious? Do you have a desire for sin so think everyone does???

    Who are you to decide what sin is, I though your 'god" did that.

    Are you trying to take his place? Isn't that blasphemy or something ??




    Yep, mankind has a selfish nature, we agree.


    NOW state why MANkind can have a selfish nature but WOMANKIND can't.


    Then tell me how you think you can change human nature...HINT: You can't :)[/QUOTE]
     
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    The only barbaric act of inhumanity is making women into slaves once again.....

    ...and that would be by those with no sensibilities or moral compass who want to make abortion illegal....they are deeply and tragically committed to take away women's rights as they did the salves...

















    SEE how you get things so wrong.


    I have NO NEED to DEHUMANIZE the fetus...I have ALWAYS said it is HUMAN ...

    I have no need to dehumanize it, did you understand ? Why do you like to repeat crap? You repeatedly say I posted things I nevber posted.

    SHOW WHERE I SAID THE FETUS IS NOT HUMAN or maybe shut up and not look so "in error".

    I do NOT care that it is HUMAN, read this: I do not CARE if it is human the woman it's in still has a right to kill it.





    You dehumanize women and want to turn them into nothing but breeding cattle EXACTLY as slave owners did.
     
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    :) Try again...?? Altering my post : NOTED
     
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    If that makes you feel better about turning your back on these precious human beings. Because of people like you, many of them will see the inside of a prison cell before they see the inside of a loving home.
     
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    Typical illogical appeal to a nonexistent "authority" from godaholics who violate their own professed beliefs by invoking an unjustified "holier than thou" attitude.

    Forcing a women to bear an unwanted child is not only enslavement but also immoral but that concept is probably beyond the comprehension of those who follow a Stone Age deity.
     
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    Ironic given that the ONLY legal reason for a PBA is when the life and/or health of the woman is threatened.

    Obviously your morality doesn't consider her life and/or health to be worth anything at all which accounts for why you have no problem enslaving her to bear an unwanted child.
     

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