Abortion-----------the ultimate abuse of women

The base fact is when irresponsible men use women for sex and they become pregnant, they consider it the womans problem. They tell the woman kill your unborn baby, and dont bother me with your "little problem".

IMO this is the ultimate abuse that women have to endure.

 

If this is true, then why is it in the best interest of the republican party, Trump supporters, or the right in general to make it difficult for "victims" to acquire means to plan their parenthood?

I doubt any potential father directly says have an abortion, or not to...they know woman do the opposite of what men tell them to do...so men usually start with the question...well whats your choice? then go from there to paint a negative picture, in order to make the woman think it was her idea in the first place to do whats best. Be it keep the child or not.

 

So you are telling me that it is ok for the irresponsible man to tell the woman to kill her unborn baby. From that it seems to me that you too have no problem of the abuse of women.

 

Apparently the point of this thread is a little to hot and logical for the usual libs on the forum to come up with a good reply. But then the point of the thread is very logical.

 

Never thot of it in this way did you libs. And yes I will keep rubbing your noses in this fact.

 

Would it be possible for the woman to choose to say no, or is she required to follow orders?

 

For a few - but your little pointy thing disregards the women who schedule abortions because of complications in the pregnancy, women who have abortions despite protests against by the father, women who have been raped and have no contact with the attacker, women who enjoy sex but not parenthood, women who are married and feel that maybe two children were enough, women who have mental health issues and while they have heightened sex drive, do not feel they can care for a child, women who make up their own minds, and on and on ...

Basically, your asinine post claims all women are puppets of men. Have you actually ever met a woman?

 

"women who enjoy sex but not parenthood" What an evil statement. Kill and unborn baby for a few minutes of irresponsible pleasure. This is an admission of pure evil.

 

Probably the biggest operative word here is RESPONSIBILITY!!!!!!! Instead of men commiting sexual abuse of women, there are any number of ways to prevent a woman from getting pregnant. Women in turn should insist on it.

 

No. It's just that your threads are soooo painfully stupid and ill-constructed. They seem custom-designed to flamebait and actually lower the IQs of anyone who makes the mistake to read your OP.

 

Another personal attack. Why not try refuting my point if you can. I realize it will be extreemly hard in the face of absolute fact.

 

The smart ones do.

They also don't bang **** boys

 

Perhaps we should seek out these irresponsible males and neuter them. Why do you conservatives hate women.

 

You have that totally wrong. Conservatives protect and honor our women. It is the liberals that use women as sex objects.

 

Yea...like Trump grabbing em by the ***** and Republicans excusing that admission

 

You mean they are your property?

 

"protect and honor" ???

Hardly. The only "protection" women need is protection from Repubs trying to take way their right to their own bodies.

Do you protect them from men who would grab them by their crotch?

AND lumping all women under one umbrella, " conservatives protect and honor women", is about as sexist as it gets...sexism is denigration.

 

Maybe in your little righty-tighty world women obey men but not in the real world.

NO, the ultimate abuse is Repubs trying to take away women's rights.......losing one's right to their own body IS the ULTIMATE abuse....

 

It isn't a fact and the word is "thought"....

 

use women for sex - is an interesting phrase. Do women not use men for sex? There's a reciprocity there, it's not as if women were the sole guardians of virtue. That stance puts men into the role of a thief of some kind - not a good basis for a long-term relationship.

The key is irresponsible men If there's a chance of impregnation, both parties should take precautions against pregnancy, unless that's what they want. When you say irresponsible, I think you've pinpointed the problem: It's a social issue - people who copulate can expect that one of the possible outcomes is a pregnancy.

Yah, it's callous of the man to expect the woman to take care of the issue, as if the man were not involved. Paternity law doesn't recognize callousness as a defense - the woman can sue for child support, & many states require such a filing if the woman & child apply for welfare, food stamps, housing, etc. I think that's reasonable - if men were more aware of the financial/support responsibilities that can follow from paternity, they might think more carefully before doing the deed.

Or not - but if education would cut into the rate of births outside of marriage, I think it's worth pursuing. Maybe a segment in sex education, or in the basic economic/life planning course. It's worth a try, & we can hardly do any worse than we already are.

As for the ultimate abuse, no, I don't think that's it.

 

Uh, women who are sexually abused should insist on the abuser using birth control ! ? What?!! Do you know what sexual abuse is???




Women are under NO obligation to use BC in any situation.....

 

Women can not decide for themselves if they want an abortion or not? Hilarious!

 

Ah, Roe v. Wade (the US Supreme Court ruling) doesn't consider the fetus to be a baby, & therefore abortion isn't murder. It's a medical procedure, & the state can begin to regulate it in the 2nd trimester.

few minutes of irresponsible pleasure - Hmmm. I think I see the problem here.

 

& sexual abuse only flows from men to women? That may usually be the case, but women have been prosecuted & convicted of sexual abuse too. The underlying assumption here about the relations between men & women as that neither party is coerced - which isn't true in the real World. Beside rape, a crime of violence, either party may threaten the other with criminal prosecution, ruining their reputation, blackmail, violence from other family members or friends, with firing (if one works for the other), & on & on.

 

Apparently the point of this thread is a little too hot and logical for the OP on the forum to come up with a good reply. But then the point of the thread isn't very logical.