About Trumps withdrawl of the US from the Paris Climate Agreement

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some people must have the last word.

    You've had yours. Do you feel better now?

    Moving right along ...
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's always best to end a discussion with an accurate statement correcting your mistakes.
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    THE GUY HAS GOT TO GO

    The guy is thoroughly incompetent as well as narcissistic - so he can't be told he's wrong.

    He never should have been elected - and factually he lost the popular-vote to Hillary. He was "elected" by an archaic mechanism that we should have been rid off (along with gerrymandering) ages ago.

    It is difficult to imagine, but nonetheless true, how the political shenanigans in LaLaLand on the Potomac have harmed opinion abroad of America.

    And, the situation is going to get worse long before it gets any better. Donald Dork has got to go ...
     
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  4. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Globalist I am, brainless I am not.

    Eat your heart out ...

    PS: Learn how to spell correctly.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump Derangement Syndrome. :above: Hilarious.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ahh - the liberal progressive scores with a spell check. At least they are good at something. Global spell checking.
     
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    To eliminate the electoral college means that the industrial states would elect the president, and the farm states would not
    have a voice in our governing bodies. But yes, he should never been elected.
     
  8. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To do away with the Electoral College means the American People will elect the PotUS by means of the Popular Vote - just like every other democracy on earth!

    And not a handful of states which represent a minority of the actual national vote. What we have is an archaic mechanism that (along with gerrymandering) has made a farce of the "presidential election".

    I keep repeating: No other nation on earth elects a head of state like we do. Not one. We are No Example Whatsoever for a fair and honest "democracy"* - as we soooooo much like to think ...

    *Moreover, the role money plays in any election is also unacceptable. The problem is that the American people actually believe the BS-commercializing of candidates on the BoobTube - like dishwasher liquid, they "wash whiter than white".
     
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    I agree that money plays too big a role in our elections. On the other hand, the farm states would never have any representation,
    which is unacceptable since they contribute big time to our economy. So what about the other nations? Is their land divided into states,
    some farm and some industrial?
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The US is not a democracy, it is a democratic republic. The Founders created the electoral college for a very sound reason.
     
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    The U.S. Leads All Countries In Lowering Carbon Dioxide Emissions

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapie...wering-carbon-dioxide-emissions/#6665ecba5f48


    thank you for your kind words,taking a cheeeep shot at my spelling makes you feel good,go ahead and take them.
    that does not absolve you of your liberal globalist stance on the paris agreement,that agreement sucks for the united states.
     
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    shooter Active Member Past Donor

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    the reason we have an electoral collage is because we are CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC ,where the rights of the few are as great as the rights of the many,that is why there are no WHITES ONLY signs on buildings any more.
    the electoral collage gives the small states a say ,if not for that the left an right coast megalopolis would tell the rest of AMERICA how to live.
    what you want is a democracy,better known as mob rule,where the rights of the many trample the rights of the few,sick.
     
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    so tell me what obama accomplished .
     
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    The worst recovery from a recession since the GD and an economy which grew at 1% adjusted for inflation and population growth. But he tried. :bomb:
     
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    An agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on. It's voluntary.
     
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    Most democracies elect the leader of their countries via a parliament, which is even more arcane and less democratic (after you get into coalitions working together with backroom deals) than the Electoral college.
     
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    we are not a stinking democracy man,we have never been a demcoracy,we are however a constitutional republic,where the rights of the few are as great as the rights of the many,what you wand is mob rule where the rights of the many trample the rights of the few,that is what a democracy is mob rule.
    the fact that there are no WHITES ONLY signs on buildings speaks to a constitutional republic,not a stinking democracy.
     
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    There is no bona-fide reason that the "small states" should have a distorted more prevalent vote in the election of the president. One vote, one person. Like every other democracy on earth - and especially one with a national voting population of 200 million eligible voters!

    In a national vote for the executive-office, why is that notion so impossible for some to understand? Election Fairness is simply a matter of numbers - and the way we get the numbers in the US is both historically wacky and dead-wrong.

    It has been so since the inception of the Republic by a Constitution that gave slave-states more voting priority than they ever deserved. And the Civil War did absolutely nothing to change the matter electorally - even though thousands upon thousands died in it* ...

    *620,000 to be exact.
     
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    What did Trump do to hurt you so bad? I don't get it...



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    What does that have to do with anything? Why does it bother you , you don't want people to have the choice not to vote?


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    The liberal industrial northern states plus several others would always control the senate. Is that ok?
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump has been diagnosed thusly by Psychologist John Gartner, the founder of Duty To Warn, who taught in the Department of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in this article here - excerpt:
    He is not fit to be PotUS ...
     
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    I agree, "people should have the choice not to vote". But, then, they do not have the right to complain about the outcomes.

    We have the lowest voter-turnout for elections of any modern-democracy, so let's not complain about the fact that:
    *Since its inception, the Electoral College (Constitution plus Amendment 12) has been un-democratic (given that it apportions votes inequitably according to state populations)
    *Since its inception (early part of 19th century) gerrymandering has apportioned voting districts to favor either of only two political parties - which in turn stifles political opinion.
    *Civics courses have not been sufficiently implemented in high-schools until only the past quarter-century in the US - thus leaving most voting Americans today with the notion that the present system is the "greatest on earth" - which it isn't.

    'Nuff said ... ?
     
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    It is not a good thing for any industrialized country apparently:

    "No major advanced industrialized country is on track to meet its pledges to control the greenhouse-gas emissions that cause climate change." http://www.nature.com/news/prove-paris-was-more-than-paper-promises-1.22378
     

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