Advocates seek to expand gay rights

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  1. Perriquine

    Perriquine On hiatus Past Donor

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    BS. You said...

    ...in response to this, contradicting what it says...

    ...and proceeded to pretend that my statement of recognizing "the First Amendment's actual protection of the free exercise of religion" is somehow not believing "in a First Amendment right to freedom of religion".

    I don't know who you think you're fooling with this nonsense, but it isn't me.
     
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    You think I made up that article and the quote in it that I linked for you? *shrug* Guessing what people did by what 'kind' you think they are is unreliable.




     
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    That's apparently the ridiculous point you're attempting to argue. But you have nothing responsive to say when provided counterarguments to your assertions. Just the repetition of one-liners.

    So there's really no point in anyone trying to engage your 'arguments'.

    Irrelevant.
     
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    Yes, I think you made up the quote "don't do gay weddings." because it fits with what you want to believe, Because that's the kind of guy you are.
     
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    Judging people by what 'kind' you think they are will lead you to some unfortunate mistakes. *shrug*

    You can test your theory, by going to the article I linked you when I quoted it. See for yourself if what I presented was what appeared in that article. Or just believe what you want to believe ... I really don't care.




     
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    LOL gimme a break. Reagan's dominance alone was significantly greater than the GOP's now. Keep whistling past the graveyard.

    Republican dominance will not necessarily get you what you want even if it happened. Republican support of liberal issues is increasing.

    Especially among Republican youth, where support for gay marriage has been at a majority for a while now.

    You're in denial. Thats why you get blindsided by stuff like this. The future is going to be very uncomfortable for you.
     
  7. PatriotNews

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    Where is the poll of Americans who support marriage between a man and a woman? People are usually in favor of things, not against things.

    If you asked the poll question, "Are you in favor of 'traditional marriage' or against it" people would say they are in favor of it.

    Also, like I've said, the thought police and political correctness campaign has successfully put the fear in many Americans for thinking the same way President Obama, Hillary and Bill Clinton, and the entire democrat party thought just 4 years ago. They don't want to be labeled bigot, homophobe or intolerant, risk being ostracized or losing their jobs or businesses. It's been a successful campaign of hate by the left.
     
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    In this context, it would be the same thing.

    So you are admitting that the wording alone might be the only reason previous polls supported your position?

    Then you are pretty screwed, and should brace yourself for the worst. If people are really as weak willed as you think they are, the debate is already over.
     
  9. PatriotNews

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    The only polls that count are the ones on election day. So far, gay marriage has lost in 47 states. Now if you look at the gains the GOP has made, it is probably because people who say they are for homosexual marriage probably aren't, so they are voting republican across the country. Look at New York, could there be a more liberal state? NC, NM, CO, and WA? All the Southern state finally dumping the democrat party. We have control of at least one house of the legislature in 39 states, the most ever. Only need 38 to pass Constitutional Amendments. That is nearly enough to pass Constitutional amendments without Congress. All we need is 7 more state houses.

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    Are you claiming word meanings don't change over time? I'm claiming they do, and that there is nothing "wrong" about it. Judges can seek to redefine marriage or any other word in their interpretation of the law.
     
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    Like the ones that got Obama elected? (twice)

    Then why is it so hard to get a constitutional amendment passed?

    ...or it means they vote on more than a single issue. Homo marriage may not be at the top of everyone else's priority list...even if it is at the top of yours.
     
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    Great. Then all that pedophiles need to do is redefine minor to mean someone under 10 years old and they can have sex with 11 year olds. Marry them even.
     
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    too many Red states would support that
     
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    If life expectancy during birth decreased to the level that it was 2,000 years ago, pedophiles would have no problem convincing people that sex must be had with 11 year olds. Circumstances change, and meanings change.
     
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    Obama had to lie about his views on homosexual marriage to get elected the first time. That's according to Axelrod.

    The top of my priority list is to save the country from the economic ruin the socials are putting it in. Destroying the Constitution is one of the democrats goals to getting us there.

    We just need 7 more.
     
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    So you mean it would be just like Medieval Europe again? The age of consent in modern times is a lot higher than it used to be.

    And yeah, they can do that. If they can convince enough people to vote for it. Let me know when that happens.

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    You have failed to provide evidence that he has lied.
     
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    See? To liberals, morality is according to popular opinion.

    You weren't aware that David Axelrod said Obama lied about homosexual marriage?
     
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    In what way do you think raping a child is in any way relevant to same swx marriage?
     
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    It has to do with the lowering the standards of morality and the increasing social decadence of the society.
     
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    This bizarre fantasy exists only in your mind. Out here in the real world, removing a denial of constitutional rights is a Good Thing, and society benefits.
     
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    It's like that with everyone. Even Christians. Thats why there is not a single Christian Church, but many variants.

    Who is he and why is he considered a reliable source?

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    Kind of like interracial marriage? Or allowing oral sex? You people have not had problems with "lowering the standards of morality and the increasing social decadence of the society" in the past. Why is it a big deal now?
     
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    Axelrod was a top Obama advisor.
     
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    Except, sadly for you, that is simply not going to happen. Sorry.
     
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    "Christian Lawyer Proposes 'Kill the Gays' Law in CA"

    http://www.bilerico.com/2015/03/christian_lawyer_proposes_kill_the_gays_law_in_ca.php

    "A lawyer and radical Christian activist from Orange County, California recently submitted a ballot initiative to the state that calls for anyone engaging in sodomy to be put to death "by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method." He calls it the "Sodomite Suppression Act.""

    "he appears to be the same Matt McLaughlin who in 2004 tried to force an initiative onto the ballot that would have required the state's public schools to hand out Bibles to students."

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    But it doesn't. There is absolutely nothing wrong about homosexuality. It's 2 free consenting adults. Pedophilia is the rape of a child. The 2 are in no way comparable.
     
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