After mocking Trump for promoting hydroxychloroquine, journalists acknowledge it might treat coronav

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    I agree if ECG is an available tool it should be utilized.

    Tell all the doctors using it now it’s useless, not me. Tell Cuomo. Tell the FDA. Tell the growing number of practicing physicians who are seeing the value in this treatment that it’s useless.

    No I have no “proof”. But I’ve researched how these drugs work. I know the risks. I understand the potential rewards likely outweigh the risks since those risks are well documented, understood, and have been dealt with for decades. Nobody has proof, but there is a growing pile of evidence that I’m not going to ignore.
     
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    The testing takes many months and the resources to do that testing are not available. We can't wait for the testing.

    The FDA approved it 50+ years ago. Off-label use of medications has already been legal. There's no need at all for the FDA to approve it for this use. It can be added to the labeling once testing is completed but we don't want to let people die unnecessarily until then. That's why it is being used. Except in states where the governors hate Trump more than they love the lives of their own constituents.

    Are you in the ban-it group? Are you one who hates Trump so much that you're willing to kill people to hurt him? Tell the truth.
     
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    That's an outright lie. Trump did not push it as a cure. Prove me wrong. Give a quote with link.
     
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    ok, so why is the right trying to credit him with it.. lol
     
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    nope, I am not in the ban it group, I am the group that says do some trials and then use it if it works

    take 200 people that have the virus, give half the drug and the other not... then in two week let us know the results, should have started that trial a month ago

    Trump should have got this going, he could have done that

    "Are you one who hates Trump so much that you're willing to kill people to hurt him?"

    are you in the group that thinks Trump is the Messiah, and we should all take his word as Gospel?

    you need to stop thinking everyone that disagrees with your messiah is doing it out of hate
     
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    Another outright lie. Prove it. Show the documented practice that off-label use of drugs requires, or is even voluntarily accompanied by, oversight. You're making it up. Those who persist in this absurd attack on the use of promising medicines are as responsible for the deaths of those who can't get the medicine as are the governors who banned it. You give political cover to those who are killing people with stupidity in an attempt to damage Trump.

    This crap is beyond stupid. It's beyond disgusting. You're literally providing cover for those who are killing people. Governors making medical decisions based on politics and you don't complain a bit. Trump repeats what actual medical doctors are telling him and you accuse Trump of giving medical advice. What a hypocrite.
     
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    Quit lying. Show me a single quote where any person with any knowledge credit Trump with saying it would cure the virus. Seriously - how the hell do you sleep at night, knowing you're providing comfort to those who are denying hopeful medications to the dying just to damage a political opponent?
     
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    the title of this thread is a lie, no one mocked Trump for this drug, everyone has agreed it is a potential treatment, let the science verify it

    why has Trump not done this yet, why did Senate Republicans not test it when they came down with it? don't they trust Trump?

    Nothing wrong with wanting something to be verified before taking it, even senate republicans can agree with this
     
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    It has nothing to do with Trump. Trump didn't discover or initiate the idea. No one is taking his word as gospel on this. Geeze you lie with every frikking word you type.

    Doctors came up with this. Doctors - actual trained, licensed, medical doctors. Trump simply reported what they're telling him.

    You hypocritically attack Trump for simply telling the story, claiming he's giving medical advice, while you literally ARE giving ignorant medical advice, suggesting that a promising drug not be used to save dying people - people's loved ones, family, actual human beings, just so you can badmouth Trump.

    YOu people - yes, YOU, are actually killing people with your support for politicians who would never have thought to ban a drug for political purposes in the past. But the left has been at the root of genocide for 120 years. Why am I surprised.
     
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    agree, Trump is trying to take the credit, but he did not discover it, or know anything about it, he just heard it was a potential treatment, nothing more

    if it works as a cure, it works.. if not we keep looking

    let the experts figure it out and stop trying to make it political

    do you really hate people that disagree with Trump that badly?
     
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    ok, then we agree, if it's a cure, Trump gets no credit... thank you (all the credit will go to the scientists that discovered it)

    stop making this political, let the experts figure it out.... we all want a cure, when they figure it out, it will be released
     
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    None of us, and neither is President Trump, recommending any treatment for any person. Actual medical doctors, those who have far more training than you and those who are far smarter than you, make the recommendations on individual cases taking in all sorts of information that none of us could possibly know. Only the left, in their TDS-driven rage, are trying to make recommendations that drugs they don't know a frikking thing about not be used on patients that they don't know a frikking thing about. Quit killing people and shut your ignorant mouth on topics you know nothing of that have life-or-death consequences.

    Yes, your social media comments, in this case, have life-or-death consequences because you give comfort to governors, with zero medical training or knowledge, are making medical decisions for doctors because they hate Trump.
     
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    Ok, now it's proven and not a question this time. Everything you type is a lie. Trump has not tried to take credit. That's the stupidest lie you've told tonight bue you have sure told a bunch of them.

    I used to have some respect for you because you're self-made much in the same way I am. No more. Think about what you're saying. Think about how many things you've said that you know you cannot back up. Do you have no self-respect at all?
     
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    wow, do you call everyone a liar that you disagree with, try to be civil and have nice debate, geesh

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    if you don't think Trump gets credit for this if it turns out to be a cure, then we agree - the scientists would get the credit - leave it to the experts

    Trump so badly wants to claim he is responsible for releasing a vaccine or cure soon... but the truth is, it will be the scientists that do this, maybe not even an American one, let's just hope someone does
     
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    I agree. It's one thing for a governor to have an opinion, and to publicly comment that hydroxychloroquine might not be as useful as some people claim. It's quite another for that governor to ban doctors from prescribing it, or to ban pharmacies from dispensing it.

    We know for a fact that hydroxychloroquine has been proven to lower the viral load on the patient, which better allows the body to fight off the virus. We also know that the drug reduces inflammation of the lungs, which greatly relieves the stress on patients having trouble breathing.

    So why ban it? Why not allow doctors to make that decision? Why??? Because these governors hate everything Trump, so if he likes this drug and has "high hopes" for it, then these governors hate the drug, just out of spiteful hatred for Trump
     
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    Trump never asserted that hydroxychloroquine was a sure "cure". He did say that he thought the results from France and China were very encouraging. His qualified endorsement was justified, and his judgement has been validated by the experts including the medical doctors who have been hoarding the drug for themselves ad their families.
     
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    Is Chris Cuomo taking hydroxychloroquine? ;-)
     
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    And when I’m

    At the beach about 2 weeks from now and the super weaponized flu virus created by deep state lab has been neutralized by the hydroxychloroquine pills I got free from FEMA and I’m casting out the line from my new fishing rod In my new boat I bought with the $1200 check

    I’ll be listening to Alex Jones warning of the NEXT Leftwing globalist takeover move and I will be reading here on the forum the NEXT Democrat House select committee to investigate the POTUS for prematurely restarting the US economy or for tweeting something
     
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    SHE SEEMS SANE: Unhinged Dem Rep Wants Trump Tried at The Hague for ‘Crimes Against Humanity’ Over COVID-19 Briefings.

    Congresswoman named Tavia Galonski, a Democrat from the Great State of Ohio, announced she would formally accuse Trump of "crimes against humanity" at the United Nations International Court of Justice at The Hague. Trump's alleged "crime against humanity"? Offering hope about the controversial malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, which some say helps cure COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

    "I can’t take it anymore. I’ve been to The Hague. I’m making a referral for crimes against humanity tomorrow. Today’s press conference was the last straw. I know the need for a prosecution referral when I see one," Galonski announced as she dribbled saliva all over her blouse.

    It remains unclear just how effective hydroxychloroquine is, but the idea that Trump should be tried for crimes against humanity for encouraging this potential cure as an option is simply daft.
     
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    SHE SEEMS SANE: Unhinged Dem Rep Wants Trump Tried at The Hague for ‘Crimes Against Humanity’ Over COVID-19 Briefings.

    Congresswoman named Tavia Galonski, a Democrat from the Great State of Ohio, announced she would formally accuse Trump of "crimes against humanity" at the United Nations International Court of Justice at The Hague. Trump's alleged "crime against humanity"? Offering hope about the controversial malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, which some say helps cure COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

    "I can’t take it anymore. I’ve been to The Hague. I’m making a referral for crimes against humanity tomorrow. Today’s press conference was the last straw. I know the need for a prosecution referral when I see one," Galonski announced as she dribbled saliva all over her blouse.

    It remains unclear just how effective hydroxychloroquine is, but the idea that Trump should be tried for crimes against humanity for encouraging this potential cure as an option is simply daft.
     
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    One notices that insanity is quickly becoming the standard for the Dem Party's leadership.
     
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    Smells like treason but it's probably just a nut.
     
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    There's only one reason to ban it and only one reason those here support and defend the bans: they want more people to die so they can blame Trump.
     
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    No, I don't call everyone a liar. I don't even call all of the liars a liar... But I am not going to be Mr. Nice guy while so many are literally lying, and I believe they know they're lying, and the result of their lies are that people are dying... If you can't take the heat, find your safe place and get a teddy bear. Where I am will never be a safe place for those who are killing people with their lies.
     
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