After Trump Is Out Of Office, Will You Remain Loyal To Him??

I have a simple question for current day Trumpers -- after the Trump era is over, will you do Trump like you did the last 3 or 4 republican presidential nominees??

Before there were sycophants for Trump, many of them were sycophants for Bush -- I still remember the Bush era -- I remember when anyone opposed the Iraq War, they were called traitors, terrorists, etc.. Now they disavowed Bush so much that they are even trying to claim --- after the firing of John Bolton -- that it was actually the liberals and leftists who got us into the war in Iraq. Really?? What happened to the loyalty??

Before there were sycophants for Trump, many of them were sycophants for McCain and Palin, especially Palin...In fact, I remember many people claiming Palin should have been the one running for president and that she was the second coming of Reagan..Now it has went from praising McCain for being a POW war hero to attacking McCain for being a POW traitor and no one even mentions Palin, except for her getting a divorce. What happened to the loyalty??

Before there were sycophants for Trump, many of them were sycophants for Romney, because after all -- he is a successful businessman so by default he must be the right man to be president. Now Romney is another former republican candidate that Trumpers pretend never existed. What happened to the loyalty??

I believe Palin should get a bit more praise from the current day Trumpers because she lowered the bar for a Trump to even be considered a viable candidate without being laughed out of the room -- and him hopping on the racist birther conspiracy certainly boosted his cred among the Republican base. However, I am forced to question, how can a party nominate 4 straight republican nominees that the republican base all hate today?? and why will Trump be treated any differently??

 

I’ve never understood the attachment to politicians by any party. I don’t even get the idea of emotional attachment to celebrities or athletes. I think your question is kind of silly considering this phenomenon isn’t unique to political party or individual politicians you don’t like.

 

It's their neverending quest to move further and further to the right. I remember when Reagan was considered as far to the right as you would ever hope to see. Today he would be considered a RINO.

But that's just part of it. Because there is also the neverending quest for insanity and for corruption. I believe this aspect started, not with Palin, but with Cheney. Palin started a new line: the neverending quest for ignorance. All these lines intersected with Trump.

 

Palin lowered the bar for Trump? Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. Palin was a VP nominee; she was never the candidate for POTUS. It only makes sense to blame the person previous POTUS for lowering the bar. The only three former POTUS that could have ever lowered the bar for Trump are Clinton, Bush, and Obama.

Blaming Palin is just intellectual laziness...

 

Shouldn't this be a question for the politically minded in general? Why approach it from a partisan angle? Are we pretending that Obama didn't have rock star status and a cult like following? I mean... why don't you simply ask if conservatives and Republicans are sheep while simultaneously claiming that progressives and Democrats are not? That'd be more honest than posing this stupid transparent question.

 

Oh, the adorable "everybody does it" deflection....

Care to find me some examples of this??

 

And Obama still remains popular among most people today - there are not mass attempts to try to rewrite history and claim Obama never happened

There are no Democratic versions of the Tea Party or other bullshit re-branding attempts like Republicans do time and time again....

So I will ask again....why does the republican base constantly nominate people for president and hate them immediately after the next cult leader is elected??

 

Yes, Palin lowered the bar.....

Now if you want to claim that Obama lowered the bar, fine...

Can you tell me how then anytime Trump's own incompetence is exposed, be it with Hillary not being charged, be it with half of Trump's campaign being convicted on felonies, how is it that Obama (the guy who lowered the bar) is always held as the strongman who made all of this happen??

Sounds to me someone with that much power didn't lower the bar, they raised it.....

 

ModCon would do well to read Rhym3pays and try to figure out why he, ModCon, is wrong.

 

I support all the people photoed above...I don't always agree with their policies, but in general.

 

What? I’m not a Republican, nor a Trump guy. I liked a few things every president in my lifetime has done and hated things every president has done. Hero worship for a time or forever is stupid. No matter who does it. My opinion of politicians is based solely on what they do/don’t do in office.

When you create a post based on a false premise you have to expect answers you don’t want to hear. I live in a red state. Almost everyone I know votes pretty consistently Republican. Nobody I know voted for Romney, Bush, McCain, or Trump because they really liked them. They voted for them because they were the lesser of two evils. I don’t know anyone who voted for Trump in the primaries. Why would anyone care about “has been” politicians they never cared much for to begin with?

Do you care about your county commissioner or city councilman or state representatives after they leave office? Or even when they are in office? Do you defend every gaffe they make or criticize their tweets on forums? These people affect your life more than a president yet you are worried about emotional attachment to the president. All of these people are supposed to be public servants, not rock stars. If one party has a more pragmatic approach to politics and one party a more emotional approach there certainly is a lesson there. But the lesson isn’t that the pragmatists are disloyal when loyalty to personality isn’t the point.

 

Better question... after Trump wins a second term, will Dems still act like sore losers and whine for the next 4 yrs?

I vote YES.

 

Flagrant straw man/ad hom combo and non sequitur wallow in the OP post. Supporting a candidate over options does not make one a "sycophant," and objecting to the ridiculous attack culture in MSM against the Trump Administration does not make one a Trump sycophant either. Most of what goes on in the form of Trump defense on this forum (and elsewhere) is against outlandish, dishonest, gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex excess and pure propaganda, not really much blind Trump cheerleading going on that I've seen. Of course to the lockstep Left-Complex, any disagreement with them is automatically "sycophantic" towards the other side. We get it. It's just another product of the mental disorder that leads to leftism.

Moreover, many posters here who end up voting Republican aren't "diehard" Republicans and I don't recall the kind of sugary, even saccharine adulation for Romney, McCain or Palin that the Complex heaped on Obama or even Hillary.

But you know what lefties? It's not really that we loooovvve the GOP or Republican politicians.

Mostly we just hate -you- and the things -you- represent.

Personally, I'd vote for a lawnchair if it would help counter the growth of the evil gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex, its corruption, incompetence, lies and greed. And can't speak for others here or elsewhere, but would wager that sentiment, and not strong GOP partisanship, is what drives most private sector taxpaying voters these days.

 

Sarah Palin's nomination to be a heartbeat away from power is what made John McCain unelectable, IMO. She nevertheless made it okay for an incompetent and wildly ridiculous person like Trump to be a viable candidate. It's a slippery slope slope of idiots.

 

I never made such claim. I only said your analysis is nonsensical. She was never POTUS, nor a POTUS nominee. Whatever bar she lowered has no relationship to any future POTUS because it has never occurred to anyone to VPOTUS to anyone...

That's because... The POTUS has power. Again, I don't know what you're talking about. You keep referring to previous individuals (who were never candidates for president), then you reference what previous individuals did while they were in positions of power. I fail to see how this relates to lowering the rigorous qualifications necessary to become leader of the free world.

By your own logic, Trump has raised the bar as well, because he is pretty much the only President in recent memory to actually keep a campaign promise...

 

The data and statistics from exit polling from 2016 doesn't support such a nonsensical opinion, but you were careful enough to say, "in your opinion" so I can't fault you for that.

 

Damn some people have a short memory. Remember Mr. tingly leg. the faux grecian columns at the Denver swooning for Obama? Good lord man you could at least be honest with yourself if no one else. I voted for Bush, McCain and Romney because the other choices were infinitely worse. Same is true of Trump. There is only one God and no politician is qualified.

 

it is a good question, no

but it is unlikely as he has clearly shown whose the boss.

 

Oh but then it wouldn't be, (yet another tiresome) "Trump and Trump supporters suck" thread. Which it clearly is despite despite the flimsy veneer.

 

I think "most people" is quite the stretch. I don't know anyone, personally, who thinks Obama did jack.
His popularity was definitely waning by the end, he couldn't even help Hillary by throwing himself all over her campaign and outright telling people not to vote for Trump. Yeah. That worked well. heh.

 

I like how you Trumpers keep ignoring the part about how the republican base hates all of their previous republican nominees.....and your total failure to find a "both sides" example to deflect with pretty much makes my point...

Obama still can come out and campaign for whoever the Dem nominee is and not be seen as a liability.....meanwhile, are we to expect there will be a Bush sighting on the republican side of the election???

 

Lots of of good responses in this thread.

Again, it isn't about the person, it is about the ideology - at least when it comes to conservative/libertarians. I realize that many on the left are typically enamored of an individual politician's personality. I realize many typically vote with their emotions.

In fact, this forum in and of itself reveals that the left puts very much importance on a politician's personality. I'm not convinced that is the best way to choose our leaders.

If conservatives don't think much of McCain any longer, it is because his ideology took a slide to the left and he ended up being a republican in name only. Again, it is ideas that matter, and the direction the person leads us in, not the personality.

 

I've detested Trump ever since he helped kill the USFL in the 1980s. I don't like him and would've preferred any other Republican to be president. But he was better than the only alternative in 2016 and he is better than any conceivable alternative in 2020.

I still like President George W. Bush in particular and the Bush family in general a great deal.

 

What does 2016 exit polling have to do with Palin being a nitwit? Or did you mean 2008? And what makes you think that exit polling is any more accurate that pre-election polling? Are voters more honest with pollers after the fact? The only poll that matters is the election itself, and nowadays, I'm not exactly trusting of that.

I'm making a wild guess here, but my hypothesis on the McCain campaign in 2008 is that, by the time his nomination appeared imminent, McCain was looking for an out, and choosing Palin was his way of declaring that he really didn't want the job after all. I simply cannot think of any other reason for someone as smart as he was to choose a running mate who was as dumb as a box of rocks. But that's just me.