AHCA Must Be Passed

It's just a conspiracy theory.

 

BZZZT Wrong!

It is SOP for the Wall Street Casino to set unrealistic expectations for corporate profits and then punish corporations that don't meet them by effectively lowering their stock prices.

http://www.investinganswers.com/financial-dictionary/stock-market/analyst-expectation-5192

 

Televisions and computers are not 15000$ in fact the quality improves and prices go down year by year. Those markets are fullly controlled by corporations. The corporate greed argument dosen't hold water.

 

If that is your perception of how things work then you are way out of your depth here.

The "corporate control" of "markets" has nothing whatsoever to do with the expectations of the Wall Street Casino.

 

Death panels at the hospitals?

 

No .. there's no such thing as death panels.. You should know by now that Sarah Palin is real stupid.

Case management evaluates highest and best standard of care for each patient.

For example.. a patient with a dental infection may NOT be a candidate for surgery... or doctors have to evaluate the risk to taking a patient off blood thinners to perform a procedure.

 

It's been 70 days , relax, take a breath. It's far from over. The American people (those that voted for Trump) are smarter than that. We know barrycare-lite when we see it.

 

Right, no death panels. My mother-in-law, a vibrant 78 year old, excellent heart, no serious medications like blood thinners needed, hip replacement, the govt approved it. Then all of a sudden they kept delaying the surgery. Now she is in a rest home at 86 years old, no surgery, waiting to die. Death panel. Barrycare striped 600 million from medicare and this is the result, death panel.

 

And, you are privy to her medical records? Are you sure there was NOTHING to contraindicate surgery?

 

Either way other industries prove your theroy wrong.

 

Doctors refuse to operate now, even in the private sector. They'll tell the patient to try and loose some weight or get your blood pressure down or whatever first. It gets handled case by case. Doctor to Patient. I think the concern is when you are trying to set up this one for all system it would just be a blanket rule. "If your BMI is so high no doctor is allowed to operate" Something like that. That's the kind of stuff that freaks people out. Removing the doctor/patient decision and could potently cause the decision to be made by a third party. Insurance companies don't really deny care, they deny payment. When the insurer becomes the caregiver there is the risk that care could be denied prior to cost.

 

Except that they don't in the least because you are not even in the same ballpark here.

I provided you with factual information on how the Wall Street Casino operates and you can't provide anything at all to dispute it or refute it.

 

republicans plan to sabatage the ACA to cause prices to go up so high, that their plan looks better, that is pretty low, why don't republicans just create a plan that IS better

that is just so sad!!! bad!!!

 

You provided me with your opinion. Give me evidence. Hospitals and insurance companies barely turn a profit. That's a fact.

 

People used to

I pay for my healthcare. That's going to continue either way.

 

Take a look at Columbia HCA's stock.
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/hca

 

BZZZZT Wrong again!

I provided you with FACTS from a credible source in post #227 above!

Here they are AGAIN!


http://www.investinganswers.com/financial-dictionary/stock-market/analyst-expectation-5192

Onus is entirely on YOU to prove that the above is NOT how the Wall Street Casino operates.

As for your bogus allegation about health insurers "barely turning a profit" that is just utter nonsense!

https://www.publicintegrity.org/201...ofits-soar-they-dump-small-business-customers

The EVIDENCE disproves your BS allegations!

 

Fascinating that hospital stocks SOARED after Trumpcare FAILED in the House!

https://www.zacks.com/stock/news/25...e-death-of-trumpcare?cid=CS-MKTWTCH-HL-254257

Hospitals are doing better under Obamacare!

 

Yes, my wife is her legal guardian, the doctors talk to her.

 

A 5% return isn't a profit. A good company would earn 25% Google turned 60% last year.

 

Look at the for profit hospital stocks.. They surged with Trump's healthcare defeat.

 

Most hospitals are not for profit. That's a fact.

In the case of HCA earnings after all is said and done bills and taxes paid has been 4-8%. They only have 500 million cash on hand. Their yearly operating expenses are 30+ billion. they earned 2.8b last year net.

https://www.verywell.com/health-insurance-companies-unreasonable-profits-1738941

 

Look at their stock prices..........

 

Their stock prices have been going up since 2011 dropped off last June stated rising again in November. They still aren't back up to the June high. Stock prices are supposed to go up. A business should show growth. Their rate isn't abnormal.

 

Do you do accounting for major hospital chains?