"Ahmadinejad: Iran is determined to eradicate Zionism"

Saudi Arabia may get nukes if Iran does

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I am talking specifically about Turkey here.

Plus, there's no sunni single body in the region. And no country leads Sunni population. Turkey was the leader but it's over now.

 

What is the name of the Keeper of the Two Holy Mosques?

 

Saudi Arabia holds the holy sites. That's all. Egypt is much more influencial over the Arab World. But no Muslim country has an influence over Turkey or Azerbaijan for instance. But the Turkish impact especially over Syria and Iraq is quite noticable.

 

Ron Paul has stated that he has no problem with Iran developing nuclear weapons. Paul has some interesting and good ideas but when he supports a dangerous regime like Iran possessing nuclear weapons he's lost any chance of getting my vote.

 

The Caliphate traditionally was the Keeper of the Two Holy Mosques. The last Caliphate ended in the 1920s.

Today the House of Saud is the Keeper of the Two Holy Mosques. Today, Turkey's current account deficit is funded by the House of Saud.

The House of Saud says that if Iran develops nuclear weapons it will too. The House of Saud also funds Pakistan in its role as the Keeper of the Islamic Bomb.

Add it up. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

 

You obviously need to learn to pay attention, but nevertheless you are a Muslim, so I wouldn't expect you to tell the truth in any event.

Again, more Muslim taqiyya.

Except for the fact that NATO doesn't have nukes. Nevertheless, now that Turkey is on the fastrack to becoming another Islamic state after years of secular democracy, I vote that Turkey be kicked out of NATO sooner rather than later.

 

Careful or you'll be accused of being jealous of America and those illusory 'freedoms'!
Americans are basically free to do what the government tells them-despite the crap about 'liberty' inculcated from birth...

 

I was wondering when the 'perpetual genocidal global jihad' would show up. I'm so glad you didn't disappoint us

 

Nice, real nice. You're really showing you're true hate-filled colours now aren't you? Your views are disgusting to any decent human being.
So all Muslims are liars are they? You need to take a look in the mirror pal.

 

First and foremost, I am openly atheist.

Second NATO has nukes provided by the US. You have no idea what you are talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb


And, your vote means nothing.

 

Do you know what happens to Muslims who are apostates?

American nuclear weapons in Turkey need to be repatriated.

 

Do you live in an enclosed cocoon or something? The Ayatollah Khomeini declared jihad (war) on Israel (the little Satan) and America (the big Satan) as soon as he usurped the Iranian Revolution from the leftist useful idiots back in 1979, and when they held 51 American diplomats with diplomatic immunity hostage for 444 days. In the intervening years, they blew up first our embassy and then subsequently our marine barracks in Beirut, murdering 241 American servicemen in the process. In addition, they have also kidnapped and tortured to death hundreds of Americans in the Middle East. The Iranians also blew up the Khobar Towers murdering 19 American servicemen at the same time and in Iraq and Afghanistan, they have been killing Americans with impunity for years. Hence, don't you think you need to open your eyes?

In addition, they are developing nukes. Hence, we would be retarded to let Iran, a fundamentalist Islamic country whose leaders are hellbent on spreading their Islamic revolution worldwide have nukes. Not only that but it would also lead to nuclear proliferation throughout the Islamic world as well!

By the way, your bad habit of plagiarizing professional leftwing loon writer's writings and trying to pass it off as if it is your own is atrocious. Indeed, you should be kicked off the forum for copyright infringement alone! What a loser and a hick!

 

Whether the bombs should be removed or not is one thing, Turkey having the bombs is another. We are talking about the latter.

And Albert, please don't ask me moronic questions. The Turkish history is full of Turkish atheists and positivists. That's why Turkey is secular.

 

Turkey doesn't have control over US supplied NATO nuclear weapons because it doesn't have the power to use them unilaterally. Turkey needs to get out of NATO.

Those who abandon Allah sometimes lose their heads. Let's hope you keep yours.

 

If you mean that Turkey can't use the bombs against, say, the US, then you are so right. But the bombs are meant to protect Turkey so that's why Turkey has no intention to start her own nuclear program.

And as for losing head, Turkey is the country that destroyed the Islamic caliphate right? (Albert style question.)

 

So much misinformation and lies in that diatribe, I don't know where to start, so I won't...More to the point, I really cannot be bothered.

 

Well, they do have nukes. So there is that.

On the other hand they're letting us execute their citizens, within their country, almost at will. If I thought they'd want it that almost makes you feel like we should make some nice friendship statue or something for them.

I mean what other country does that?

While Hamas would militarize anything, I'd be interested if Israel just randomly launched missiles into some school. I think I'd have heard of that.

Turkey is backsliding a little, well a lot I suppose, and Islamists are making a power grab.

But historically they've been pushing the secular thing heavily. Militantly even.

Don't give up on them yet. They could become oru greatest asset in dealing with that part of the world.

 

Just exactly how do the non-retarded stop them from getting nukes, exactly?

 

The New York times is zionist owned.Hardly unbiased reporting.

This is more zionist propaganda against Iran.

Iran has always said they are against the Zionist war criminal regime.Not Israel.

No more wars for Zionists.

When is the world going to crack down on the zionists and their nuclear threats against the world?Not to mention the hundreds of zionist terrorist attacks.

get rid of the zionist war criminalo regime and 99% of these wars/conflicts would not be.

Is it a coincidence the zionists are also in the forefront of the Egyptian,Lybia etc uprisings.

Zionists always starting trouble.

Then want stupid Americans to fight their wars for them.

 

Or it could be possible that he is publically stating he wishes ineedajob to step down, but privatly supports him in order to keep the possibility of a.coup in control by impeaching ineedajob if the iranian people rise up.again. He is a scapegoat possibly.

 

Sunny youre a nice guy but are you really paying attention?

Israelis dont just randomly target schools. They wouldnt waste an expensive (though discounted) US missile like that.

No they deliberately target the school.

The Hamas guys arent even aiming at the school, they in fact cant aim at anything. The fews times theyve had capability to actually target anything with flying muntions they just like hezbollah have went for the IDF.

Its just like WW2 when the allies having no targeting capability instead just bombed the whole city. Did that mean they were trying to kill germa school kids? No of course not.

Please think about it sunny and come back with a pointed argument against what ive said.

You are worthy of my time in discussion. People like OYM weve all had dealings with here. He has proven himself to be of a low calibre of argumentation and debate, hes even been offered formal debate format and refused it. Therefore theres no point in talking to him.

I think you can do better. Lets see.

 

Oh? Please peruse...

1. The Iranian Islamic Revolution illegally invaded the Embassy of the United States and took United States citizens as hostages for 444 days. How's that for a start? Just in case you missed it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

2. From the CIA World Factbook: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ir.html My emphasis added in bold --

"During 1980-88, Iran fought a bloody, indecisive war with Iraq that eventually expanded into the Persian Gulf and led to clashes between US Navy and Iranian military forces between 1987 and 1988. Iran has been designated a state sponsor of terrorism for its activities in Lebanon and elsewhere in the world and remains subject to US, UN, and EU economic sanctions and export controls because of its continued involvement in terrorism and its nuclear weapons ambitions."

3. Then there's the Iranian interference, murderous violence, and subterfuge in Iraq:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/23/world/middleeast/23iran.html

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/violence-iraq-increasing-june-deadliest

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ecret-files-show/story-e6frg6so-1225942634565

If it weren't for U. S. forbearance, we'd probably have already sealed up the insane, murderous Islamo-terrorists who are the government of Iran. I'm surprised we haven't already instituted a no-fly zone, and imposed strict import/export controls on them. With somebody in the White House besides a socialist, ivory-tower dreamer, we still might do it.

But, at this time, we continue to "hope" (Obama uses that word a lot) that all the 20-somethings who roam around Teheran, pretending to be like members of the French Resistance during the Nazi occupation, will put down their iPods and coffee cups and actually DO something. They are. They're doing, well, nothing... so, they "go along to get along".

A day is coming (I use that phrase a lot), and when it finally arrives, a lot of people who think the United States is going to take crap forever, and take it, and take it, and take it, are going to have a big surprise... and Iran may very well be first in line....

 

You conveniently missed out this bit:

In Iran, the hostage taking was widely seen as a blow against the U.S, and its influence in Iran, its perceived attempts to undermine the Iranian Revolution, and its long-standing support of the Shah of Iran, recently overthrown by the revolution. The Shah had been restored to power in a 1953 coup against a democratically-elected nationalist Iranian government organized by the CIA at the American Embassy,[3]

I know they never teach you about "causes" in US schools. Instead all world events that involve the US are deemed to occur in a vacuum, akin to a kind of fantasy.

 

/coughs...Hmm, that would be the same tyrannical Iraqi regime that the US supported and which Iran was militarily engaged with in an act of self-defence:

"The war began when Iraq invaded Iran, launching a simultaneous invasion by air and land into Iranian territory on 22 September 1980"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Iraq_War