Alabama Voters Back To Moore, Nov. 30

Not wanting a child molester to be elected to the Senate is pretty far from "being obsessed with sex criminals. In fact your posts exhibit that much more than mine .

Is child molestation no big deal in your country?

 

Hillary is not a child molester.

That was weird

 

Let me explain to you how this works. When you judge in a criminal court, you are required to show definite proof. When you make up your mind in an election about which politician to select, you take in all the information and use your reasoning abilities to obtain something as similar as possible to "proof" to make up your mind.

So, to answer your question: yes. I have 6 victims and over 30 testimonies of witnesses.

 

Yup!

100%


The shame is on those Senators and Governors who are educated in the law
who felt the need to chime in on guilt without due process. Shame On Them.


Lesh
You have not yet chimed in regarding the lack of due process and popular conviction.
If I missed it, please link Moi

 

Nah, coming from the supporters, defenders and enablers of rapists, sex predators and perverts in the white house, the senate, the congress - sorry dude sounds hollow.

 

So you wouldn't be bothered that you think he's guilty of molesting children as long as he wasn't convicted. yet

Got it.Very moral of you

 

I asked you a question

 

You have wrong information.
Sex-ed is about children to be more open to homosexuality and allowing a man with beard and mustache to shower with a school girls.

 

She was promoting homosexuality.

But those allegations are false. Roy More should be elected, precisely because we have to stop immoral lie.
All so called "victims" are exaggerating and perverting the facts, that is very bad.

 

Oh man! Where did you get that sex education. Some sort of private religious-cult school? No wonder you guys are insensitive to an adult sexually abusing minors.

 

Wrong on all accounts, seems to be your modus operandi. Convince me, it seems you have yet to convince yourself so why would think you could convince another?

 

So now you are under some illusion you are psychic? Can you prove that you even understand the concept of education? No doubt you attended some public high school, but have you ever entered the world of education?

Oh and by the way, sexual education has nothing to do child molestation, that would be a criminal education. Hint, if you understand criminal education, then perhaps you can answer the previous questions.

 

Really, and I take that with all has done and being with Slick Willie (the name by which I was first introduced to this piece of crap) that you can prove it. Well I only have one word to support a statement I actually never made as this seems to be some nervous tic of yours:
Chelsea!!!

But that wasn't what I asked at all so let me clarify the statement. Hillary is an empty soul better know as a psychopath without any ethics whatsoever, but still you would vote for her. Now I'm not asking about McCain, McConnell, Pelosi, Obama or anyone else than Hitlerly.

 

Thank you for verifying to what level of prejudice your opinions are based. Oh and by the way, this matter is civil, not criminal. Believe me if any of those sub-creatures called lawyers had an inkling of any proof with the money Roy Moore has, they would have sued.

This is all nothing more than a liberal attack on a political candidate because the liberals can't win any other way and it looks like they aren't going to win here. Them nice folks from Alabama may be slow but they are not dumb.

And by the way, YOU have nothing. To expand the picture, all the others have is allegations and no proof.

 

Sensitivity is the problem, it allows emotions to replace facts and logic. I love how all those little bleeding heart (sorry BleedingHeartKen no reference to you) liberals whine and cry about the injustice of it all without ever having to take responsibility for their actions.

 

No!

I'm just old fashioned and believe "it" requires conviction in a court of law.
Until then he is an alleged . . . . and alleged is not a legal conviction.

The size and loudness of the peanut gallery is not a legal conviction.
What bothers Moi is allegations are considered conviction by some as Lesh.

Lesh, you still have not addressed the role of due process.
You keep editorializing my replies and adding twists.

That's very moral of you ​

 

Paraphrasing Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law

"To those who lack education, the knowledge of an educated person is indistinguishable from magic."

But I like your "What are you, psychic?" response. You could use this line of responses on every single post, when you discuss anything you are clueless about. Somebody says, for example,

"People won't like your Stew if you use too much salt" -What are you, psychic?
"What goes up, must come down" -What are you, psychic?
"If you eat too many cookies your stomach will start hurting" -What are you, psychic?
"To every action, there will be an equal and opposite reaction" -What are you, psychic?

You can use it for anything. And you might even fool somebody who's not too bright into thinking that you're actually contributing something.

Or you can just change the subject, as you are trying to do here. This is not about "Education" (I have taught at College level, but that's not the issue). This is about receiving sexual education. And what follows clearly illustrates yours...

Uhmmm How can I telll you this. If you had ever received sex ed in your life at any place other than backward ultra-fundamentalist religious schools, you would most definitely have learned about child molestation. That's kinda one of the most basic points of sex-ed in schools.

So, on this topic, you struck out... no sense in expecting any contributions of value from you. Let's see if we have better luck in others.

 

I see. So somebody sexually molests a child, and you can somehow come up with some sort of logic to conclude that it's OK to elect the guy to U.S. Senate. And that those who don't believe that molesting children is a good thing are just "bleeding hearts"

How amazing (and sick) is that!

BTW, what exactly is it you think I have to take responsibility for? I have never (that I know) voted, supported or excused a child molester, the way that you do.

You are desperate. And that's kind of a good thing. At least it shows you understand (though will never publicly admit) that excusing and supporting a person who sexually abuses minors is wrong. It doesn't justify your actually doing it.... but at least it means you're not a sociopath like Trump and Roy Moore. Those guys lack any type of "sensitivity"... or, as you called it, "heartbleeding" for damage caused to children.

 

Oh Golem
Oh Golem

Who says someone molested the child?
Popular press/media?
An accuser or a choir of accusers.
The result of due process in a court of law.

Please advise.
And avoid tangential answers and Golem interpretations such as, "YOU are saying that . . "
What is the role of due process in Golem's perfect world?


Moi
Remember the destruction of Straus Kahn
without due process!

No Due Process Required!​

 

QUOTE="Moi621, post: 1068350194, member: 63086"]Oh Golem
Oh Golem

Who says someone molested the child?
[/QUOTE]
The child!!!!

And you.refuse to believe the child, because of blind political partisanship.

And that is terrible. Not only because you justify a pedophile. Not only because you ignore the trauma caused to a minor and the consequences to their development. But because you help promote the main block that children who are victims of sexual abuse have when they need to decide if they should denounce their tormentors: the child's fear that they will not be believed

It's a horrible thing you do. If there is anything immoral in this world... this is it!

 

So where do I get this great indoctrination? If you are looking for a true education I would suggest you research the philosophy of Thomas Jefferson.

And some that only think they are bright may be tempted into that belief, after all look at all these little crying Hitlerly and Bernie followers to see that effect. But you sir must truly be psychic as most of your posts are based on telling someone, knowing absolutely nothing about them, some ad hominem label to them as uneducated because they don't agree with your very narrow view of the world.

You keep posting about how educated you are, then why are you having a problem understanding this is the subject. You have pronounced Moore guilty based on allegations, not proof, allegations. This is a tactic so well used by the Clintons, try your opponent in the world court of public opinion. A public of progressively indoctrinated little citizens that have no clue how many stars are on the flag but are the byproduct of this wonderful indoctrination system. It seems in Moore's case these allegations are unraveling faster than normal because normally the election is past before these allegations start falling apart but too late, damage is done.

Those that can't, teach or go into government. "I have" would imply that you no longer do that. Now if I was a psychic such as yourself, I would project upon you that because you did but don't do, you were not very good at it. But I'm not you, therefore in my opinion your were probably very good at it. This system has produced people like yourself, you should be proud. But let me ask you this, in this long journey of indoctrination you have endured, you couldn't handle the ivy league schools?

Another of your psychic projections? Did you know that there are increasing numbers of discussions about the psychology related blaming what you are doing against your opponent. So where you a Catholic? So you were well taught about sex but did you learn sex from a priest or a nun?

Again the psychic projections, I haven't even finish this response and you pretend to know everything I have stated here. But in this case, well actually in any case, your sense of judgement seems to be in question. Perhaps you would like to correct your starting premise and try again.

 

No. I don't post about how "educated" I am. I'm posting about receiving a basic course in sex-ed. Which most people receive during their basic education.

And you have pronounced him innocent based on party affiliation.

Look.... I understand this much much better than you do. In a court of law, a defendant is innocent until proven guilty. Trump fanatics would love to take this discussion to that arena because, in the end, they get to say "but the crime has expired"

But this is not a criminal case. It's a political election. A jury will make the decision based only on facts, which are proven beyond a reasonable doubt. In a political election you don't have that. There had no "proof" that candidate Trump was going to build the Wall, or lock up Hillary, or... whatever reason somebody decided to vote for him You have clues, indications, circumstantial evidence... This is also a moral issue. And if you don't believe that sexual abuse of children is bad... there is not much anybody can do for you. Otherwise, if you have clear indications, such as that a guy was accused by 6 Victims, and his character, habits and circumstances were described by over 30 witnesses that knew him at the time as very consistent with sexual abuse of minors.... you make a decision based on that.

Or, of course, you can always just make your decision based on partisan politics....Thereby helping promote the message to abused children everywhere that, even if they are abused, they will not be believed.

 

This has nothing to do with small town people really. They are very much like big city people in that they are all people. The difference between a gun owner and non gun owner is simply one owns a gun and one doesn't. To make it out like it's a world apart is silly.

The real problem here is arrogance and pride. Alabama citizens are so stuck on not being told what to do, they will elect a pedophile simply because people in Washington broke the news story? Alleged...nah he's a pedophile. But that aside, think how dumb that is? A guy is uncovered as possibly touching children. And he wants to run for your local school board. But you support him because the people who told you he allegedly touched children are from...New York City...does that make sense? No. It's called arrogance.

The civil war is over. The south, including Alabama, lost horribly. It was over a 100 years ago. Funny how that's supposedly long enough for blacks to get over slavery but not long enough for whites to get over a war they couldn't win. Get over it and accept the reality, that Moore is a pedophile. Alleged...but an actual pedophile. You see if you do that, then you have to accept that you are voting for a pedophile. Alleged...but seriously a pedophile.

 

You came into the middle of a discussion that began with

was replied with

And the question of having lived in a small town was never answered by this perp.
How about YOU. Have you ever lived in a small town?

And No One is a child molester until the end of due process with a conviction!
That's just the way.
What'samatta you? You don't believe in due process?
Golem and Lesh don't answer this question either.

Moi replies, Remember Straus Kahn.
Trial by media, conviction by accusation & popular parroting needs to end.


Moi

r > g

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what? i'm pretty sure i've mentioned tons of times that i've only ever lived in small towns in the rust belt and i'm kind of lost as to what else you're getting at