Alec Baldwin kills one,inures another with Prop Gun on set.

Indeed. I don't know about a criminal prosecution yet.


But civilly he's going to be in a world of hurt because as.co producer he continued production after several negligent discharges.

 

He has escaped his bad temper in his past. I recall what he did to his daughter. I recall stories of his terrible temper.

Saturday night live now can feature him shooting cast members.

 

I think that the Last American is quoting himself.

 

I have posted so many links in my posting history only to read Democrats running down every one of the links.
Why post links for a target?

 

Who ever told him that the gun was clear.( cold gun)........needs to be questioned rather thoroughly.. There has to be some kind of "chain of events"...

The procedure that was followed (or was not followed)needs serious examination.

 

How was Tracey Morgan?

 

Weapons used in movies and tv shows are all tagged and there is an official protocol for how they are checked and tracked. You know how you see those papers on display above the buttons in an elevator that show when that elevator had the most recent safety check. Same idea.

A real gun was probably not on the set. However, a prop gun *can* cause harm if mishandled and/or another person is close enough. The force of the hammer can certainly cause harm (even death, sometimes).

There will be an official investigation to determine how this happened so they won't release details until law enforcement finishes the investigation. I would be very surprised if there was a real gun on the set unlocked but people make mistakes. We'll know when they release the report.

You know how they have stunt doubles for difficult actions so the "star" doesn't get hurt trying to do those actions? A "prop person" is responsible for all the props on the set and there is another person specifically responsible for weapons (ie. guns, knives, swords, etc.). That person is responsible for making sure everything is in working order and accounted for at the end of the work day.

Sometimes that person or a weapons expert gives the actor/actress some information on handling the weapon and what to expect so it's highly unlikely the gun went off "accidentally." Unlike a knife or sword, by which someone can get hurt even when the weapon is laying on a table, a gun needs someone's action to make it shoot. Unless a loaded weapon is in some extreme circumstances (a bomb explosion or out of control fire, etc.) it won't just shoot on its own.

My best guess of the information released is that he was probably playing around with it expecting it to be empty or safe and it wasn't. It's *possible* the gun malfunctioned but I doubt it.

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My grandmother's oldest child died when was 12 years old because she and her friends were playing around a river bank. Her friends pushed her into the water and she didn't know how to swim. She drowned. As a result, my grandmother forbade her other ten kids from going near aquifers. None of them ever learned to swim.

Fast forward. My father was an expert swimmer. Every day, after school, he would pick us up and take us to the community pool. A few years later, my parents bought a boat and my mother would only get on it if she had on 2 life vests, our father held her hand as she held on for dear life. She was TERRIFIED each and every time. Us kids would jump off the boat and swim. She would get upset every time. Our dad told her the best way to not be afraid of drowning is to learn how to swim. She wouldn't even try. So, of all of us (I think there are 34 of us first cousins), my siblings and I are the only ones that know how to swim.

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This principle applies to handling weapons as well. Knowing and understanding the mechanics behind weapons is the best way to handling weapons safely and properly. And, this is why I am against 2A. People get bravado when they have guns and that's not the reason to have one. If someone already has a hair trigger temper, lack of personal control and the inability to walk away from a fight - adding a gun to the mix is NOT a good equation.

And, sadly, Baldwin's life is now changed forever. Look at what happened to Tom Cruise and Brandi (the singer/actress). He will never be able to go back to before this tragedy happened.[/quote][/QUOTE]

 

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Every word you said is sympathetic to Baldwin.
Wonder if he had been a Republican?

There is a dead woman along with a seriously injured man. Why don't they matter?

 

Tragic situation. Baldwin is part of the anti gun culture. Those of us that have been raised with guns no damn well where the muzzle is to be directed at all times. The finger is never to outside of the trigger guard until immediately before intentially firing. So in light of the fact Baldwin wants to take away my gun rights, I seriously hope that he is face with a degree of manslaughter charge due to his negligence!

 

Hollywood Weapons Expert: Alec Baldwin Ignored the No. 1 Rule of Gun Safety

https://www.breitbart.com/entertain...alec-baldwin-ignored-no-1-rule-of-gun-safety/

 

I agree 100% the prop guys/gals deserve scrutiny and consequences.

But, this is not how firearm safety works. The actual person pulling the trigger is responsible for the safety (knowing it’s current condition) of the firearm—period. Every time. If Baldwin had taken a class from an NRA certified instructor instead of bashing the NRA (I loath what the NRA has become financially and operationally but still respect greatly their work in the area of safety and education) he would have known this and avoided the whole mess.

When a friend hands me a firearm they check the condition of the firearm. As soon as it’s in my hand I check the condition of the firearm. Same when handed a firearm in an FFL or ANYWHERE else. Baldwin failing to follow this procedure further demonstrates not only his negligence but his hypocrisy as well. Just because he makes a lot of money glorifying firearms and violence doesn’t give him the right to pass HIS negligence on to others by blaming them. It’s a sickening display of elitist arrogance.

 

Well stated.

 

Because to the left....politics above all else. The left can't benefit from the dead/injured in this story so no, they don't matter to the left. Baldwin however, they do benefit from defending him and so they must.

 

If he was being reckless then he has exposure to criminal liability. I read today that the State Police are checking carefully for cell phone video from anyone there. That indicates to me that filming was not in process. Were filming in process, they would have film.

LEGAL ANALYSIS: Does Alec Baldwin Have Criminal Exposure After Shooting Woman Dead In Apparent Mistake?

 

How/why would that someone own a pre-1880's gun? And even if that did, why would they carry it around with them?

 

It seems that there was a combination of lack of knowledge, experience as well as possible recklessness. Add to that......the recent history of gun issues and staff issues. We will find out eventually......... but that won't take away the pain of loss ........for those affected. Sad...

 

Whereas no-one of the 'Right' would never stoop to such lengths correct?

Because obviously people with conservative political views are noble, wise and clear sighted and thus God and his angels are on their side. But the 'left'? Well, its common knowledge anyone on that side of the political spectrum must, by default eat babies for lunch and worship Satan.

Or in other words a sense of perspective - try and develop one.

 

Waves! I'm not American, but definitely anti-gun.

I feel bad for Baldwin at the essential animal level, but all things considered it couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.

 

Yes, it’s always sad for the victims. I do feel terrible for them.

Hopefully some good will come of this. Maybe some people who make millions promoting firearms and violence will take the firearms seriously at least.

 

Personally........I don't have a gun, will not have one....... and will never allow one in my home. But I have no right to tell others what they should do regarding this issue. Just as I would never hunt.......(kill animals for sport etc)..........I have too much respect for wildlife and its conservation...............but again......... I have no right to tell others what they do in this regard. I find killing majestic wildlife for sport abhorrent........... but that is my own personal philosophy. Others have to make their own decisions about this.

Reality is that weapons are an integral part of the American culture ........

So these incidents are bound to happen. this one is noteworthy because it took place on a movie set and by a name recognized actor.

 

Being as Baldwin is a known liberal and has made fun of Trump this was obviously a plot to murder the woman, probably with Biden's connivance

 

Probably why so many Democrats loyal to Biden come to comment on this issue and operate as if they defend Baldwin.

 

Why are you talking about yourself?
Baldwin is a notorious bad boy. And loves to harm others. I do not claim he wanted to kill her, but two for one shot ? How can that happen to the executive of his own film where he is in charge of the whole thing?

 

That's where we differ. I'm not opposed to hunting as long as it's for necessary food (ie, not for sport, or for exotic luxury foods like shark fins).

 

Most posters have no business driving a huge D-12 Caterpillar tractor or steering a massive ship across the seas. So let's leave it at some should not own guns. Those fearful never should own guns. Those of the wrong political stripe should not be allowed to own one. Democrats no doubt hold the record for being the most violent.
It makes me want to keep all Democrats away from weapons. But we have the constitution. And I believe in it more than in just keeping guns out of the hands of those who should not ever own one.
In my case by the 9th grade of high school, we were being trained how to operate guns. I fired machine guns in high school so was not fearful. I also never wanted to use one to aim at humans. I did not want to be drafted partly for that reason. In the Army I also got more weapons training. I never saw a human shot or killed.
But thanks to the constitution, it is not up to me, it is written down in the document. And belongs there.
I am a pilot and read that some pilot doctor carried his dead wife up in the airplane and tossed her into the ocean. And finally admitted he did it. As a pilot I see little way for a pilot to reach across the passenger seat and open the door in high winds. Anyway he confessed so maybe he is another magic artist like David Copperfield or Shin Lim.