America has No Allies in a War with Iran!

Kneejerk denialism does not alter factual reality!

 

Correct. Then why do you think we have to go to war?

 

You lack of relevant Subject Matter Knowledge as demonstrated in the content of your prior post is not my problem.

 

Wake up. Iran has been killing Americans for 40 years. What Trump did was a response, not a first act of war.

 

Who could guess the imagination of a complete idiot but Bush used his war to get reelected, and Trump will use it, too.....even though he accused Obama of doing it...

 

MSM say we going to war. It therefore must be true. It is time to quiver, shake, and fear greatly because war is going to finish us off before climate change can in less than twelve years.

 

Ya and all the leftist here and around the country think they know more than Trump, Washington, the military and any other country on the planet, so what's your point again, hypocrisy?

 

I'm afraid that so few Americans have directly experienced the horrors of war that they have come to look at it as some form of selfish entertainment and excitement in their otherwise boring lives.

With the exception of 9/11, the extensive loss of life and destruction of entire neighborhoods is something that always happens to someone else far, far away and of no consequence.

To make matters even worse for loyal Americans, our government & especially the blundering Trump administration is infested with war mongering Zionists who are enthusiastically pushing America into fighting yet another war for "Greater Israel" because no amount of American money or American blood will ever be enough to placate AIPAC etc.

In spite of what our pro Israel MSM feeds a gullible American public, Iran, a nation halfway around the world, is not America's enemy. Our most deadly and destructive adversaries are the parasitic & war mongering Zionists from within.

 

Simple question. Why do you think we have to go to war? Your thread is based on that knee jerk premise.

 

After 911, there were a number of people who said that Bush had the intelligence and should have stopped 911. Trump has intelligence that we are supposed to be attacked and now we are supposed to ignore it. Not sure I understand the reasoning there.

 

The only reason I can think of for Trump not acting on intelligence he has already received is that perhaps he would like the attack to succeed in order to inflame public opinion.
Leaders have been known to sacrifice lives before in order to get the wars they want.
I really don't know.

Thanks,

 

If a conflict with Iran is the right course of action (not saying it is necessarily) then why should the presence or absence of allies be a factor?

 

I think that Trump does not know what he is doing. He backed out of the treaty with Iran because he wanted to destroy Obama's legacy. It worked well for Republîcan politics as there is a sizable portion who favors the destruction of Iran. If it leads to war, it will be through Trump's incompetence.

 

Examples please.

 

There never was a treaty with Iran.

 

This is even worse than your usual level of abysmal nonsense. First, the action was completely legal.
2nd there is little Iran can do outside the region and what they can do we have taken actions ahead of time to block.
3rd. The Chinese are getting killed economically their mercantilist attempts upon the third world not withstanding.

 

I read the thread title. Then looked for any evidence, data, adult argumentation, even anecdotes in the OP supporting the title. Of course there is none, just lots of "blotus/impotus" childishness . Not surprised given the source.

Sun Tzu is about knowing when to fight and when not to fight, reducing risk and capitalizing on opportunities.

After research yesterday and today, IMO turning Soleimani into a smoke detector ad is most compliant with and wise use of the principles found in The Art of War.

 

The truth about U.S. & Western foreign aid:
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...id-is-a-fraud-and-does-nothing-for-inequality

Excerpts:

* ...aid is not given away as charity – it is wielded as a weapon to boost trade and further political aims.

* Many rich nations receive more in interest payments from recipient countries than they give in “aid".

* As the USAid website used to boast (until the paragraph became too embarrassing and was deleted in 2006): “The principal beneficiary of America’s foreign assistance programmes has always been the United States. Close to 80% of the US Agency for International Development’s contracts and grants go directly to American firms.” Aid has “created new markets for American industrial exports and meant hundreds of thousands of jobs for Americans”. Long before Trump entered the White House, USAid was “putting America first”.

* None of the poorest countries in the world is among the top recipients of US aid.
* Not one of the five poorest countries is among the top 10 recipients of British aid.
* ...not one of the poorest countries is among the top 10 recipients of multilateral aid.

 

And the reason the Right bends over backwards for Israel is not because of any great love for Israel, it is because it fulfills their apocalyptic fantasies to bring Jesus back as they believe from their twisted version of their Bible.

 

In October, Trump ordered the retreat of American troops from northeast Syria. Hundreds of our allies -- the Kurds responsible for the destruction of the ISIS caliphate -- were killed. Hundreds of thousands of Kurdish families were forced to leave their homes. They became refugees.

The Trump administration has warned members of Congress that Iran is expected to retaliate against the US "within weeks" for the strike that killed Qasem Soleimani even as they failed to convince some that the operation was merited due to an imminent threat against American lives.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/04/politics/trump-iran-intel-retaliation-concerns/index.html

How many more will die because of Trump's disastrous decision in May 2018? How many more will die because of Trump's decision to take out the Iranian general?

Without revealing sources and methods, what was the imminent plot to kill Americans? Will the general's death eliminate the threat or will it cause the Iranians to implement the plot more quickly? Where will Iran strike with its proxy forces? Her military will not take on the American military. The Persians are not stupid or suicidal.

If There is such a plot. Trump routinely lies just about anything, much of it mundane. Americans no longer can believe anything he says.

So, where is this "imminent" plot?

 

All of the above is completely irrelevant to the poster's claim that many of our "allies" are only as such so long as the U.S. aid graft troughs continue. Not surprised.

Oh, and The Guardian? What, couldn't find anything in a more credible source like Weekly World News or Sasquatch Monthly?

 

And that's just for the masses who believe in this apocalyptic fantasy. Their ignorance & labile nature is duly exploited by the ruling class/globalist elites to manipulate events towards a fulfillment of apocalyptic religious propaganda. These elites follow NO religion or related fables...only their own geopolitical interests. But they need the people to make their dreams happen.

For the segment of people who are atheists, the propaganda perpetrated upon them by the elites is not religious, but self-serving economic & political propaganda. The elites leave no stone unturned.

 

I was, of course, responding to Just a Man's mention of foreign aid...not the OP's topic...just as a matter of course in anticipation of the so-called 'patriots' narrative of how wonderfully helpful the U.S./West is to needy nations.

Regarding the Guardian's article, you're always free to refute any of the information written therein. Whatever the editor's/funders' bias or intentions may/may not be, the material by itself, not the intentions behind it, must be scrutinized. Why...what's your source? FOX News?

Besides, this issue with foreign aid is not new news. It's just rarely, if ever, talked about in the MSM.

 

Most foreign aid, especially military aid comes in the form of vouchers for American made products.

 

Hell of a rant there, dilideo. But you missed a couple points. (1) The sky if falling because Trump withdrew his support, and (2) The world will end in 12 years anyway, because we aren't killing off all the energy using devices like cars, planes and stuff like that. You need to add a few line to cover those.