America - Why?

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  1. Defender of Freedom

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    I am comparing Cities with high crime, and restrictive gun control, and those without.

    You are assuming the noose is not already tied and the blade not already sharpened.

    Mexican cartels supply many of the guns used in crime in the US.


    It is already tough enough economically as it is, making it more so would be infringing on more peoples rights.

    Australia did confiscate the weapons of its citizenry and Switzerland has mandatory gun ownership. New York had the Second amendment but that did not stop them. Who is to say that the nation cannot end up the same way?
     
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    because guns are legal here, so suicides and people defending themselves can use them. they can't in Japan, but that does not mean that nobody committs Suicide in Japan or that nobody needs one to defend themselves properly in Japan. when 2-3 punks set upon you with a big rock in each hand (throwing them, 1,2 at you, from 2m away, I dont care if you're bruce lee, you're gong to get killed. But you try that vs me, I'll shoot all 3 of you, when you (*)(*)(*)(*) back your arm. :)
     
  3. Bowerbird

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    No. Because that is Hollywood dreaming
     
  4. Bowerbird

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    Yes because there is more firearms smuggled INTO Mexico than into the USA
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling_of_firearms_into_Mexico
     
  5. Logician0311

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    So, if your argument is that you cannot effectively implement gun control in an area that has no effective borders with areas where there is gun proliferation, I agree.

    That has nothing to do with a nation-wide policy.

    Mexican cartels get most of their guns from the US.

    Does the requirement for driver training before getting a license, and the high cost of vehicles infringe on people's ability right to assembly? After all, in order to assemble with like-minded folks, you have to get to the meeting location...

    SCOTUS.

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    Really?
    Please explain how "violent crime" statistics in Australia use the same criteria as "violent crime" statistics in the US.
     
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    another misleading point. the fact remains, you want to ban all guns in the US..it has always been your agenda........ reduction my rear
     
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    so youblame the citizens for a corrupt government that IS supplying guns south of the border. Now, this is the kind of leadership y'all want for us? A communist in the office means we must get rid of guns...that's so sweet of you to wish this on any country. Mod Edit ~ Don't make it personal.
     
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    A piece of pipe, cut off at an extreme angle, can be screwed to other pipe (after being concealed when "taken apart). then you've got both a club and a stabbing instrument. One in each hand, 2 ft long, and you can really do a lot of damage, really swiftly, as in 20 people stabbed to death in less than 20 seconds. 10 seconds if you've got them trapped in a small room, especially if they are little kids. Guns are not needed in order for a human to be a monster. Guns ARE needed to resist tyrants, tho. which is why tyrants hate them so much, and don't care about knives so much.
     
  10. Defender of Freedom

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    Yes, many of which were a result of Operation Fast and Furious. The US government gave these shops the green light for those shops to sell it to the cartels in order to track them. These guns were lost and found at many crime scenes later, including that of Brian Terry.
     
  11. Logician0311

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    Appeal to motive much?
     

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