An Australian developed cure for dementia??

This is good news indeed. One of the few treatments that has shown any promise after decades of disappointment

It is about to start clinical trials here in Queensland and if successful might give hope for millions of people

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-18/dementia-cure-possible-after-breakthrough-qld-study/10629688

 

WHAT'S SO GREAT ABOUT

"THEIR"​

REALITY THAT I SHOULD SACRIFICE MINE

 

Will this help me to pick winners?

 

No it it might help you actually keep the ability to read a betting form

Those of us with relatives who have dementia know the agony of watching someone who used to be bright and erudite play with thier food like a one year old because they no longer recognise what a knife and fork are for

 

WTF. Are you sure you are responding to the right OP?

 

Yes, my mother had dementia and didnt recognize me late in her life.

 

I am just a little perplexed though, is this just a self-pat on the back??? OR is there some part of the topic you want to discuss???

Have watched several family members degrade from dementia. Still watching it on the wife’s side. Since it is their first experience it is frustrating that they just repeat the same mistakes we went through. I would hope this remedy checks out and I would hope if it is good gets to the market a hell of lot faster than previous treatments…

 

Bit of both - hey we are a small nation we takes our pats where we can gets em .

This is a treatment not a pharmaceutical cure so I am delighted that the Federal Government here in Aus has decided to fund the clinical trials as this is the sort of thing that DOESNT get funded by Big Pharma because they will not get the profits

 

that's incredible... micro bubbles and ultra sound... maybe we have been too focussed on developing a drug for everything

 

Yes
Mind you my favourite bit of Alzheimers research is coming out of South America, Columbia to be exact. There is a family there that has early onset alzheimers who have been travelling by bus and foot to take part in a double blinded drug trial - knowing that half may be getting the placebo

https://www.aarp.org/health/brain-health/info-2017/genetic-mutation-prevent-alzheimers-fd.html

 

My grandfather had dementia. Before he left us he sold most of the family property for magic beans.

I distinctly remember as a kid walking into the dementia home and he said "who are these blokes?". Didn't recognise his own family.

Horrible way to go. I have one non negotiable in life, I will never end up in aged or dementia care. I will OD on heroin before they send me there.

Seems like as good a way to go as any.

 

Unfortunately by the time you need nursing home care you will be too far gone to carry out that wish

 

Hopefully I'm not at that point when I get the diagnosis. My granddad wasn't.

I imagine it'd be hard to get to full incapacitation without a diagnosis.

 

I read about the mouse trials and it is great news that they are now starting human trials. Hopefully they will work and that there won't be any serious negative downsides. Then again how would anyone know when you are dealing with dementia in the first place?

Like most people there is dementia in my family and my aunt is currently at the point where she does not recognize me any longer. She is still very pleasant and upbeat but like most dementia patients afraid to go too far from home. If this treatment works she would be an ideal candidate since she is still fit and healthy.

 

Screw Big Pharma!

If this treatment works it will be a major breakthrough and hopefully a Nobel prize.

 

Well when it comes to medical treatments Australia can stand tall. It is a small nation and it punches well above Its weight in not just treatments but developments of drugs fit for purpose. A well-deserved pat on the back.

However, just because it is a treatment, we should not shy away from the extensive amount of time the government places in making treatments mainstream (as a side). Many treatments take years to make government approval and often are not publicised.


On the main, I do concur with the pharmaceutical part of the comment, unfortunately we still need them.

 

Firstly the FDA here in the USA does not approve medical treatments that do not involve the use of drugs and/or medical devices. Ultrasound devices already have FDA approval.

Secondly, as noted in post #8 above by BB, the Australian federal government is funding this study. If the results are positive you can put money on the politicians taking the credit and pushing it forward so they can brag about it when it comes to soliciting votes in the elections.

 

We don’t tend to do that. The funding is given but we may have gone through three different governments by the time the results are in

 

So this is a long term study of 10+ years?

 

I think it is probably around five. A lot of these studies have to be longitudinal. Wouldn’t be the first study though that was truncated when the results are very positive

 

You are going to flip through 3 federal governments in 5 years?

Who do you Aussies think you are?

Italy?


SCNR

 

Firstly, 300+million people compared to 27+m people. The point is not who approves what but that we do well as such a small nation in medical breakthroughs.

Secondly, In Australia we have an independent authority who assesses and approves drugs and treatments which is predominantly comprised of medical trained people who approves medical treatments drugs or any other thing in health in Australia. This helps prevent the government from controlling who lives and dies in Australia but it also tends to slow things down considerably.

So just because the government is tossing money at something in Australia does not mean it is has the government approval. This prevents any government from using this type of thing as some political pawn to buy the vote. We are very different in Australia than the US. Some say for the better, I am guessing you say for the worse.


Either way, the first point makes my point that Australia has much to be proud of in this area…

 

As usual your guesses are 100% wrong!

You are talking apples and oranges. Here in the US the FDA approves new drug treatments and medical devices. The only reason the US government does not take any credit is because Big Pharma bribed the government into allowing them to advertise their drugs directly to the general public. The factual reality is that ALL research and testing of new drugs is fully tax deductible which makes it government subsidized. On top of that subsidy there is the Patent Scam which allows Big Pharma to gouge the sick with exorbitant prices out of all proportion to the original cost of R&D.

FTR many nations have a lot to be proud of in terms of medical achievements. That the US brags about having the "finest healthcare in the world" is meaningless considering that it is actually ranked 37th. Those other 36 nations are doing a far better job of providing their own citizens with universal healthcare.

 

I only made 1 guess and that was what you think between nations, so the "as usual" crap is just you trying to project.

"We are very different in Australia than the US. Some say for the better, I am guessing you say for the worse."

Yes I am talking Apples and Oranges, my entire comment was pointing that out.


forgetting the rest of what you said because it is nothing to do with what I said. the fact is Australia has different practices and policies. Australia tryes its best to seperate government from these types of things, as I said.

 

Yep! And about eight prime ministers