An interesting fact about armed guards

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a strange and interesting fact about armed guards I just dont understand.

    Everyone seems to be perfectly ok with armed guards at banks to protect the money. Yet most democrats are against armed guards to protect children at schools.

    Anyone on the forum care to explain to me why that is?????????
     
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    Problem is...you want to arm the tellers and janitors
     
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    I have no problem with armed guards in school, I am however against arming teachers as they already have enough to do. I think those who wish to have guns in school should not be opposed to paying for them
     
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  4. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No that is totally stupid. I want qualified guards in the schools. What is more important you money or your children.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I have posted many times, and have the support of most everyone I talk to, get volunteer retired police and military to be guards. Give them what training they need, and we would gladly give some of our time to protect our grandkids. All for FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    There were armed guards in Parkland...also at Columbine

    JS

    Better idea...sensible gun control laws
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But not enough armed guards.

    And again for the Nth time tell us how you are going to get criminals to obey your "sensible gun control laws"?
     
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    Can’t teachers decide for themselves whether or not they have enough to do? Aaron Feis was a football coach/security guard I don’t know if he wanted to carry but lives could have been saved if he did.
     
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    I'm glad to hear you have given up on that stupid "Arm the teachers" nonsense. That was a really dumb idea.

    So now we need a squad of cops at every school?

    That's gonna be pricey. Ready for the tax increase?
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No-------------any teacher that wants to take the training should be allowed to carry.

    Better a "squad" of armed guards than dead kids---------------------right????????

    And---------------you conveniently ignored my statement of retired military and police that would volunteer for FREE to protect our grand kids. So sorry tax and spender, it wouldnt cost a dime, and no tax increase.
     
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    This post is loaded with presumptions beginning with the old, "most Democrats are.....". Then it follows up with "Everyone I talk to..." to justify your contention that, WE would gladly give some of OUR time".

    First off, and this has been pointed out to you multiple times, you don't know what the hell Democrats think. The everyone I talked to raises the question, "Who do you talk to? The local militia?" Then, the most troubling nonsense is the idea of trained vigilantes running around looking to be heroes.

    Like the "arm the teachers" idea this idea is not well supported when one of your armed heroes shoots a cop he figured was an invader.
     
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    So in spite of saying the opposite...you DO want to arm the tellers and the janitors
     
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    I dunno about that. You can listen to democrats talk about this issue and figure out how and what they think. At least those doing the talking. If they are not speaking for democrats, there sure is an absence of contrary voices. Show us the contrary voices, otherwise many people will assume this is how all democrats think on this issue.
     
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    Why would you have a problem if the tellers and janitors qualify to purchase a gun and take the training for concealed carry?
     
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    Yeah, that would stop the criminals. I think we already have a law against shooting people. How's that working.
     
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    Oddly...banks don't do that.


    oh....
     
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    But we DON'T have comprehensive background checks.
    We DON'T have an assault weapons ban
    People on no fly lists CAN buy guns
    We DON'T have a ban on hi capacity magazines
     
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    I think you are very confused. It's not about what party one belongs to, it's about having competent professionally trained officers/security and the cost associated with it. Some people want to use volunteers (it does not cost much) and other feel professionals (it costs money) should be protecting our children. I personally know plenty of people who are republicans and democrats who want police/security in the schools and likewise plenty who feel only volunteers (ie. the teachers/staff) should be used for protection purposes since they don't want to increase taxes.
     
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    Your words and your liberal fantasy. It's a ridiculous analogy.
     
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    I think the point is that the kids who shoot up schools are not the typical criminal. They are f'ed up kids who snap. If they didn't have access to guns, they would still snap but without a gun in their hand.
    In cases where the kids grabbed their parents' guns, the parents are partly to blame for not making sure their guns are securely locked up.
    In other cases like with Cruz, there were red flags all over the place yet this kid was still able to buy guns. He was a ticking time bomb who was allowed to buy guns. There is something wrong with that.
    I am a gun owner. I am for the 2nd amendment. But we need a better system of not allowing messed up psychos access to guns.
     
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    How is it different?
     
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    It's actually spot on. What's funny about this whole arming of teachers thing is that there was another thread pointing out how most teachers are liberal. Let that sink in....liberal. You really think teachers, who are supposedly more liberal, will want to carry a gun? Teachers went to college to learn how to teach, not to be Dirty Harry.
    By your logic, shouldn't we also arm all of the tellers in a bank? More guns would be better right? Why don't we?
     
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    Where will you get the money for the armed guards??

    Plus a bank has the money secured behind locked areas so there is a limited area for attack. Schools are more open - dispersed area of attack

    Remember Columbine had armed guard
     
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    You're comparing apples to pine trees. A teacher that is willing and qualified to conceal carry is a definite plus. No one is forcing teacher or administrators to carry. It wouldn't take much to instruct a teacher on basic tactics. Some will have experience and many will be quite good.
    The best basic analogy is blue on blue attacks that occur in Afghanistan. The best defense is a layered defense that starts with intelligence. Metal detectors and dogs are next. Bet you didn't know that dogs can smell weapons and ammo. If you have a shooter, he knows that unless he eliminates any and all armed personal his time is limited and time is your friend. It works like that.
     
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    worth repeating.
     

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