An Unsettling New Theory: There Is No Swing Voter

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    Voter ID is necessary to register to vote. It’s unnecessary during the actual voting process. It clogs the system during a time when most voters only have a limited time to vote. It’s unnecessary totally. Except on the part of republicans there has been no concerted effort of wide spread voter fraud. ( except by Republicans in Carolina). Besides, it’s already heavily fined with prison terms to willfully engage in voter fraud. It’s the same reason the right says we don’t need background checks for secondary gun sales, it’s a crime to engage in it already. Be consistent.
     
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    Oh, Quotes with references are not opinions.
     
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    Flashing your ID takes a couple of seconds and idaho has no clogged polls.

    Requirements to vote in Idaho
    Identification Requirements. A registered voter must either present a photo ID or sign a Personal Identification Affidavit. Forms of photo identification may be any one of the following: An Idaho driver’s license or Idaho photo identification card. A U.S. passport or Federal photo identification card. A tribal photo identification card.
    Reference: idahovotes.gov/identification-requirements/
     
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    Quotes of opinions.
     
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    The main goal of voter suppression is to establish an apartheid style government of minority rule.
     
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    Why did democrats oppose voter ID requirements in Texas when they were offered for free? Maybe because they want to fraudulently vote?
     
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    A requirement everyone already makes when they register.
    Voter fraud is already against the law.....show us the cases of organized voter fraud that make this necessary....other then by republicans. Idaho is a rural state. It’s what republicans call a test bed to enact voter suppression laws. What isn’t a problem in Idaho is a huge problem in urban areas. The right targets minority groups, urban areas and colleges with these unconstitutional ideas. Show anywhere in the constitution that requires a voter ID when voting.
     
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    Free is not the point.....
    Its not required in the constitution and only republicans have abused it. Now, make the case that registered republicans must have IDs, and I’m all in.
     
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    The constitution says all citizens can vote. ID laws ensure only citizens vote thus they uphold the constitution.
     
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    Of large organizations each of whom represent ligitimate research. You’re just one person.....
     
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    Where are the facts that voter fraud is a problem ?
    so, with every citizen right, your now prepared to verify citizen ship to practice ? Because the constitution does not say that.
     
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    large leftist organizations.
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/11/us/how-johnson-won-election-he-d-lost.html

    "A study of Lyndon B. Johnson provides new evidence that the 36th President stole his first election to the United States Senate, in 1948.

    The book, ''Means of Ascent,'' by Robert A. Caro, is the second volume of a projected four-volume study, ''The Years of Lyndon Johnson.'' With a first printing of 250,000 copies, it is to be published on March 15 by Knopf, and excerpts have appeared in The New Yorker.

    Mr. Caro maintains that although ballot fraud was common in the late 1940's in some parts of Texas, the Johnson campaign of 1948 raised it to a new level. Mr. Caro supports his charge with an interview with Luis Salas, an election judge in Jim Wells County who said he acknowledged his role only after all others involved in the theft had died. "
     
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    No, most are right handed.
     
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    Seriously ? It’s a novel. It’s not government research....
    Laughable. Maybe Hannity can help you.
     
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    Without ID, how do you know who's actually voting?
     
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    Google more info on this infamous election if you dare. It's common knowledge Johnson stole that election.

    "A study of Lyndon B. Johnson provides new evidence that the 36th President stole his first election to the United States Senate, in 1948.

    The book, ''Means of Ascent,'' by Robert A. Caro, is the second volume of a projected four-volume study, ''The Years of Lyndon Johnson.'' With a first printing of 250,000 copies, it is to be published on March 15 by Knopf, and excerpts have appeared in The New Yorker.

    Mr. Caro maintains that although ballot fraud was common in the late 1940's in some parts of Texas, the Johnson campaign of 1948 raised it to a new level. Mr. Caro supports his charge with an interview with Luis Salas, an election judge in Jim Wells County who said he acknowledged his role only after all others involved in the theft had died. "
     
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    "The disclosure was made by Luis Salas, who was the election judge for Jim Well’s County’s Box 13, which produced just enough votes in the 1948 Texas Democratic primary runoff to give Mr. Johnson the party’s nomination for the United States Senate … ‘Johnson did not win that election – it was stolen for him and I know exactly how it was done,’ said Mr. Salas, now a lean, white-haired 76 year old … George B. Parr, the South Texas political leader whom Mr. Salas served for a decade, shot and killed himself in April of 1975. Mr. Johnson is dead and so is his opponent … Mr. Salas said he decided to break his silence in quest for ‘peace of mind’ … ‘I was just going along with my party’ … He said Mr. Parr ordered that 200-odd votes be added to Mr. Johnson’s total from Box 13."

    https://www.worldtribune.com/how-landslide-lyndon-stole-the-senate-race-in-1948/
     
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    Sure it’s common knowledge. Not.... Where are all those Republican prosecutors prosecuting them. Where is Barr. Why aren’t they being prosecuted ? Laughable. Is the right that incompetent. first they let Hillary go....and long before they allowed a president to illegally be elected ?
    The laws...
    “Both federal and state laws include stiff fines and imprisonment for voter fraud. Under federal law, perpetrators face up to five years in prison and a fine of $10,000 for each act of fraud. ... In Alabama, voter fraud is punishable by up to two years in prison and a $2,000 fine. In Wisconsin, the punishment is up to 3 1/2 years in prison and a $10,000 fine.”
     
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    People break laws especially when they are not enforced. Kind of like a speed limit with no cops and people like you saying theres been no tickets given for speeding ergo nobody speeds so we don't need traffic cops.
     
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    Everybody KNOWS about that.
    And has known about it Forever.

    That book is 30 Years Old.

    And that election was held in the 1940s.

    Even at the time that Caro published the book, it was DECADES-Old News.
     
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    Everybody but dagosa
     
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    Yeah. It's Old News and it happened ages ago.

    Now, if you want to talk about some REAL (RECENT) Voter Fraud...

    ...That isn't referencing something that happened in 1948..

    How about The GOP FRAUD in 2018 in NC?

    https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/7468...s-new-felony-charges-that-allege-ballot-fraud
     
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