'Annie' remake: casting of black lead provokes negative Twitter posts

Ok, I concede our opinions differ.

 

This is really a nonissue.

 

Huge box office bomb, and a surprise to noone....well almost noone

 

Why did you feel the need to necro rez a thread over a 9 months old for THAT comment?

 

Was just catching up on some movie reviews, and remembered we had a prediction going? So why not?

Seems you had no problem chiming in on the Necro thread. Did you think this kind of reinvisioning of established characters was going to succeed as well?

 

Annie is the Taylor Swift of musical theater--everybody's done it.

 

It wasn't exactly the race of anyone and more like the phoniness of it all. You just KNEW as you were watching it that the entire movie was a message of diversity instead of doing the story justice. It was a project in pandering and it failed, as it should have. Like making a new Superman black or Spawn white, just for the heck of it.

 

Well I seem to recall roles in movies about young black girls or young black boys and how they overcome life's struggles showing how young black kids can do so and how they should be role models for other black kids and that is what the story is about and should all respect that.

Why not a young white girl and her story of overcoming adversities and being a role model for young white kids and an express of how white kids can over come things.

Why is it OK to proud to be black and celebrate that blackness and respecting the art and history of blacks but not being white and respecting and celebrating the same?

 

Quevenzhane?

... really?

 

Did you want the movie to fail?? I saw it at the threatre and enjoyed it, then caught parts of it again on another occassion. The cast was great and I'll probably watch it again On Demand. That's what's most important to me

 

why is a white man never given a chance to win the role of MLK in movies? has there ever been a director who said, find me a white guy to be equal and fair? are there no white actors who would be able to play the role due to their lack of acting skills? then why is there not a mandatory casting call that includes white people to try for these roles? are there no white actors hungry enough and willing to try? or do people fear the outrage that would come if they did? (and isn't that why many of these movies and plays cast roles like this, because it seriously helps the box office numbers of something that probably would get little notice at all if not for that, not saying its right to use people, but its a hell of a marketing tool, has been and will be done again, all for the sing it with me, moneyyyyy moneyyyy moneyyyy)

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P.S. who keeps reviving these dead threads... this is like the 10th time I've responded to a thread thats been dead for over a year or two... don't they ever lock threads that have had no responses after a certain time?

 

I'll admit, I have done this on occasion myself. We had one guy who insisted that the Occupy movement would come back after winter was over - a couple years ago. Well, it didn't and I revived the thread just to say so. It happens when you have predictions like that. I bookmarked the thread just to prove him wrong.

Eh, it really wasn't that great IMHO, and an unnecessary remake in an industry full of remakes. Then again, it was light-years better than the last Fantastic Four movie, so there is that.

Usually it's Waltky!

 

I could barely stand the first Fantastic Four, so I'm not surprised that the second wasn't great. Nevertheless, I'll probably end up seeing it.

The little girl in the movie is cute and the songs were catchy. I'm a fan of Jaime Foxx. The critics didn't like it but it debuted better than expected and wound up with respectable numbers. 65 million was spent on production. It made 140 million at theatres worldwide. It made millions more in DVD and Blu Ray sales and they're ongoing.

The kid got paid 1.5 million. That's not too shabby for a remake of a film that some people expected to fail. This little girl has global exposure and will continue to delight audiences and get richer, in spite of naysayers.

 

No. Don't see it.

I'll grant you the kid has potential and could end up something big (although child actors have a habit of imploding) - but we'll see. It's just that outside of her, the remake didn't have anything that the first one had - and didn't do anything better in any way IMHO.

 

Yes, I predicted it would fail and yes I did want it to fail.

People need to stop reinventing established characters just to push Minorities. Black human Torch, a bunch of teenage looking actors...and another Dr Doom with powers...ugggh.


Glad you and the other guy enjoyed it. Unfortunately you guys werent enough to save it from the obvious flop it was.


The more of these flops they make should send the message home. If a property has existed for 50-60 years succesfully....it doesnt need Hollywood to reinvent it. it's proven it has legs and interest AS IS.

Simply follow what has been successful, and you can make a good return. Why have the rights to a property such as this, and then think you need to reimagine it and take chances?

Hollywood needs more of this message so theys top doing it.

 

Annie = fictional character.
Martin Luther King /= fictional character.

Does that help any?

 

I find this whole thing funny and ironic.

They cast a "black" actor/cast to play a traditional "white" role (they did the same with OZ).

They do this for nothing but racist reasons....I mean this is not about doing a remake of "Annie", this is about doing a remake of "Annie" with a black lead (I'm sure no actor of another race was considered....isn't that discrimination???).

Very few people have an issue with this, however, some do have a problem with with the blatant racist intent of the remake.

The media (and others) point at those few people that do see the racist intend of the production of this movie and claim that those that have a problem with it are the ones that are racist.....though few have shown any "outrage".

Myself...I don't care. I may even watch it one day, but I will not go out of my way to do so.....just as I did not go out of my way to watch the original "Annie" movie(s).

 

Exactly, what makes this movie a flop, the fact that the money invested to make it was not only recouped but doubled? Such a movie is generally considered to be a success. This movie was not a flop for Will Smith, Will Gluck, Jay Z and everyone else who profited and I see no deterrent here to producing other remakes with a black cast.

There have been other successful black remakes. The Preacher's Wife is a classic and The Wiz didn't make money but won numerousTony Awards. The Wiz is from the 70's. "Hollywood" has had decades to track the results of these remakes. Clearly, they continue to emerge when the cast, brand and anticipated audience suggest a preordained profit.

Do the ubiquitous number of remakes that don't have a black cast "push" people of other races? Remakes are in our box offices regularly because a recognizable movie comes with a pre-established audience and storyline. Sometimes, there are minorities in the starring roles. That's certainly no reason to wish that the movie fails.

 

why should it matter... are only black actors capable of playing black people... are only white actors capable of playing white people...

people cast black people as white people in remakes and updates, but I've never seen a major movie reverse that role with a white person playing a black person...

what if the cast for straight outta compton was white? would there be outrage, or would it just be called, creative differences by the director... were any white people allowed to try out for the lead roles? or did it HAVE to be a black person, because only black people can play black people?

is this the same logic, only black people can police black people, or only black politicians can represent black people?

see where I'm going with this...

 

Minority people in history have been "whitewashed" since film was created.

 

So can we all imagine the outrage if they did a remake of Shaft and cast Tom Cruise in the lead role? Or Foxy Brown and cast Sharon Stone in the lead role?

Those are fictional characters aren't they..........

 

Yes, I would be outraged with Tom Cruise as Shaft.....Bruce Willis would be a much better choice.

 

You damn right.

 

correct, I remember watching western shows as a kid and white people were natives and everything else...

I'm just asking the question... why now... would it never be okay to allow for a white MLK, but it would be okay to allow for a black anything else...

why is the racism allowed one way in america... the reverse of what the historical context was...

why should we accept discrimination in any form, why should it be justified now... isn't that the exact opposite of what MLK wanted... he wanted a true equality, not an advantage... does nobody read what he actually wrote, or do they just interpret it as meaning affirmative action essentially? what do we do in areas where black people are the majority and things still fail, now what... will others now get minority benefits among the majority?

just asking the annoying questions nobody likes today

 

I want a white guy to play Ray Charles in the remake of his life.