Another animal shows empathy

Yeah, BR you're right!

We wont talk about wild carnivorous wolves raising human children as has been documented, as they are different than cats (I like dogs, but not cats!).

And we will disregard what the observers said about "the lions walked away" when ppl came to take their next meal..yeah, those C-S lions!

And stones, I already said:

What more do you want from me?!!

 

That is amazing to hear. I am glad she got away and hope she will be okay now!

 

Well, there have been people who believed grizzly bears were friendly and so they played with them and fed them and got themselves killed.

The park rangers had to go out and destroy the bears. It's a shame, because bears shouldn't have to die because stupid people don't realize they are wild animals.

This story, and all who defend it, are showing a basic disrespect of nature that is very common among city people who have no exposure to the realities of what wild animals do and what they are capable of.

Sigmund and Roy learned their lesson the hard way. For many years, they entertained the crowds with white tigers. Then one day, one of the tigers acted like a tiger will and ripped one of their faces off.

 

In order to believe or disbelieve anything, and animal would have to have an understanding of the concept. An animal cannot be an atheist.

But then, we run into this problem all the time.

After all, many atheists like to quote about atheists being locked up less than other religions - except that only applies if we count the declared atheists - the 20% of non-religious .... are apparently Christian?

Of course, on the other hand, atheists will count Einstein and Jefferson, and even attempt to include Buddhists when it suits them, but not prisoners who profess Buddhism or no religion at all ...

So, apparently, if the Lion eats the little girl - it must have been Christian and an Evil God failed to prevented it. If a Lion does not eat and indeed protects the little girl ... Well, now its proof of something - that an atheist will dump on a forum. Apparently its Dawkins clarion call that such antics are genetic? Because lions are gentically programed with that ever illusive morality gene? So when Lion's behave like this?

Well, who knows - whatever Christians say, atheists will find a snide remark to respond with.

What I am sure about is that no atheists, despite all their apparent concern for this subject, are doing much more than complain. Are we supposed to clap you on the back?

Are we supposed to guess at what the intent of this thread is? Are we supposed to ignore that it is an atheist extraordinare who posted it? Made a less than explicit referrence to Dawkins?

So, you are atheist, how about YOU explain it, because - just like I said, I am having a tough time figuring out why an atheist would post this story ... it certainly wasn;t the author of teh OP who saved the girl was it?

 

Well, I agree that animals can't be Atheists. Given that fact, they can't be Christians either. An Animal can't believe in a diety any more than they can reason the lack of a diety. Of course, you already believe in a fairy tale story of a guy that rose from the dead, so I guess you can believe in anything.

 

A missionary in Africa was warned of the man-eating lion in the jungle.

The missionary said in response, "The Lord will protect me!"

He was on his trek to the next village when he ran into the lion, blocking his path.

He was scared for his life, until he saw the lion put his paws together, as if in prayer.

The missionary exclaimed, "A Christian lion! I am saved!"

Until he heard what the lion was praying,

"Bless us Lord, for these our gifts..."

 

Oh, Jesus was not real? Get that a lot from atheists.

I guess being a trained historian, I must have it all wrong? Because you, like so many other atheists, toss out an ignorant, rude strawman?

Must be better to believe in nothing despite evidence, eh?

You can never be wrong if you never stake out a position can you? Well, you can never be right either.

So, the point about the lack of empathy in atheists is made again, eh?

 

In ALL situations, altho not knowing the belief system or 'faith status' of the 'one' who has received such a 'miraculous' salvation from death by dumb animals, or of that person's family who may have been praying, you apparently have ripped out the section in your Bible of the Book of Daniel?! I would think that if anyone believed in the 'possibility' of miracles it would be a 'good Catholic?'

Playing with dangerous wildlife is but 'tempting God' which is against the scriptures; and just like Paul did not 'tempt God' when getting bitten by a poisonous snake but was delivered from any harm, this same 'possibility' could ONLY happen to 'super-saints,' huh?!

Your "IQ" may be getting in the way of the 'possibilities' of your 'faith.'

But like I said B4, where the secular unbelievers and faithless church goers can agree,

 

I will definitely have to give a huge AMEN to that statement. .. and make it applicable to any who would consider themselves to be intelligent or an intellectual.

 

It may be possible that the actual man existed, but no one rises from the dead after three days unless he was not actually dead. If he was not actually dead, then it destroys the whole Christian myth.

History can be changed and adapted to fit a person's viewpoint. The only historians I have heard about that say that Christ was real are Christian Historians who have a vested interest in proving that. Are you a trained historian like Newt is a trained historian?

 

That is the biggest nonsense that I have ever read. And here I can read every day thousands.

 

Dolphins, monkeys and many superior mammals show empathy.

Even cats can show empathy. And mainly the big cats.

 

If an animal does not believe in anything. The animal is atheist. But this discussion is nonsense.

For now only humans have faith. And the faith in God for your disgrace is a show of lack of critical thinking and the dependance to an authority.

 

LOL. Are you historian? Fuuu. I would terribly afraid if I had my children being taught by you :-S

And yes you have it wrong. There are not any proofs of the existence of Jesus. There are possibilities that someone that could fit in that characteristics could have existed, but in no way, like it is described in the Bible. And that agree all scholars. Except the fanatic ones.

 

I can see why Christians would believe that education and intelligence is a bad thing. It is the same reason that organized religion has kept most of their followers illiterate and uneducated for centuries. An uneducated flock is easier lead and manipulated. Once someone actually learns about things they can start to realize how the belief in a god is just as rediculous as believing in the tooth fairy or Santa Claus or The Force.

 

I agree with these 2 enbolded sentences of your post. As far as Santa Claus, there was a historical St. Nicholaus; and the tooth fairy was my mother & father, and the force of spiritual warfare as described in NT scripture is Good battling and eventually triumphing over evil to be concluded during the end time.

My 'perspectives' concerning these thing are different than yours, as yours assume no explanations or alternatives, and appear just to be a product of vented anger, most likely with your past experiences.

 

Very good OD.....you now see that myths are created from real people.

Now its time to take a leap forward: jesus of nazareth was based off Jesus Christ the Jewish Rabbi.

Or perhaps NavyIC1 sees past the lies and BS of religion and fights it like I do because he sees religion for what it is: a plague on society.

 

"I see through the lies of the Jedi"

Have to love Star Wars quotes.

 

My commendations on a very realistic outlook on those 'things' mentioned.

 

Yes, a historical figure that most parents lie to their children about, a Fae creature that parents lie to their children about and the final part of the Christian fairy tale. I believe that everything has an explanation, a scientific explanation. I do not have have to rely on an ancient, hypocritical fairy tale to understand the world. There is no anger toward Christinity, just a desire to counter the hypocrissy I see from Christians who are very un-Christ like. If there was such thing, and Christ came down today, He would most likely be killed again by the very people that claim to be Christians.

 

With all of those adamant assertions, you conclude your monologue with a speculation. Interesting.

 

I agree with man's organized relgion as per the doctrine of men as keeping ppl enslaved thru out history and within the control of men.

But I dont consider following the words of Christ as merely religion, and for sure 'dead relgion,' as they are words promoting life and not bondage. Some might call it a 'phiosophy of life or living,' which if one practices living His words would walk as he did.

But to merely consider it another 'religion,' being the ONLY belief system of grace, favor with God not based on individual works, but on accepting another's good works as a suitable & acceptable substitute for one's lack of their own righteousness, is incorrect as in lumping with the total under that one category.

 

Question is: do you disagree? I do not see you denying the fact that the majority of Christians are not very Christ-like in behavior. Most do not even try. I have met some people who are a credit to Christianity, but the majority are not.

 

I would venture to guess that about 99.99999999999999999% of the people of the world are not "Christ-like"... and that would be a conservative estimate. Actually, If I had to make such a judgment based on the stricture of scripture, it would be more like 100.00% are not 'Christ-like'. "For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God." "All" as used above is an absolute and includes everyone of them living today.

 

Of course not...99.9999999999999999% of us are real.