Give it up gentlemen and ladies of the left. Sorry but this investigation is a complete bust. The only thing the left is showing is complete and utter desperation. Days of testimony and no crime even alleged by the supposed witnesses.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...father-of-arkansas-womans-baby-dna-test-shows Well there is this...
actually there is something. 1. it is an absolute fact that Trump told his Ambassador No Quid Pro Quo I don't want anything from the Ukraine. I only want Zalinski to do the right thing 2. democrats are bullying witnesses both in and out of the of the "court room" and are actively trying to harm Gordon Sondland's private businesses. witness intimidation!! Thugs!
unless the democrats produce the whistle blower the senate should dismiss the charges against Trump on day 1 minute 1 of it making it to their chamber
I suspect there may be a great job opportunity for "Baby Doe" somewhere down the line. Much more interesting than the hearings debacle. Good thing Hunter has a solid income.
garyd is in denial. E.U. Ambassador Gordon Sondland is a political appointee, not a career foreign service advisor, having contributed one million dollars to the Trump campaign. Whenever he wants, he can dial up the President. That may change after today. “I know that members of this Committee have frequently framed these complicated issues in the form of a simple question: Was there a ‘quid pro quo?’,” Sondland’s statement reads. “As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.” Specifically, “a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for [Ukrainian] President [Volodymyr] Zelensky,” which Zelensky felt was essential to his country's survival against Russian aggression. In addition, Sondland summarized Giuliani’s role in his testimony. Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky. Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President. Burisma is code for Biden. Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma. For Trump, Sondland's testimony was devastating. There is much more, far too much for this venue.
Fox News reports, "Former Whitewater Independent Counsel Ken Starr said that the testimony of Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland all but guarantees articles of impeachment will be drawn up by House Democrats." The Republicans are struggling to defend Trump. Basically, their defense is three-pronged. They attack the Democrats, call the impeachment inquiry a sideshow, and attack the media for reporting the developments of the inquiry. They say that President Zelensky never felt the pressure of extortion. American assistance and Trump's good graces are existential for Ukraine, and the very last thing Zelensky would do is impugn the American President's intentions. It would be suicidal, and that goes for his ministers as well. They would ask if Trump ever told the witnesses directly that he was extorting the Ukrainian leader to get what he wanted. This last defense indicates they think that Trump is an idiot. The idea that Trump didn't tell Sondland that he was bribing Zelensky to get the investigations of the Bidens and the debunked Crowdstrike is no defense. Trump did tell Sondland, Volker, and Perry, "Talk to Rudy." Giuliani was working to get the investigations, and the "Three Amigos" did as they were told and worked with Giuliani who was in turn working for his client, Trump. The other weakness of the third defense is that it exposes the obvious. Who did have personal knowledge of the Trump's wishes and the quid pro quo? Why, Mulvaney, Bolton, Pompeo, and Giuliani, of course. Who is preventing those four to testify? Why, Trump, of course.
garyd may not be concerned, but the GOP and White House certainly are. Trump campaign sources say EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland's allegation of a quid pro quo implicating Trump and top administration officials "blindsided" aides inside the White House, the re-election campaign as well as some Republican lawmakers. A separate Trump campaign adviser was furious with Sondland's testimony, calling it "aggravating." The adviser said it came as a complete surprise that the EU Ambassador would implicate senior members of the administration. "It was really bizarre," the adviser said, adding Sondland appeared to be throwing top administration officials under the bus in real time. Another campaign source in touch with the White House team handling impeachment today said at the outset of the Sondland hearing, those aides seemed to be distressed – seemed to be “freaking out.” The source acknowledged Sondland’s testimony undermined the White House’s central argument that there was “no quid pro quo,” noting there are some Trump allies who have wanted to shift from that to arguing the appearance of quid pro quo was really just the President executing his legitimate foreign policy goals. Then, of course, came the usual denial of reality. A third campaign source said enough questions were raised about Sondland's testimony by GOP members to protect Trump from sustaining serious damage. "No direct hit," the Trump adviser said. https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-n...g-11-20-19/h_3ab96a833fe6cad36af65a69daf9b320
A thing of beauty, confuse, attack.. Future historians will scratch there heads on how Mr. Trump recieved two terms
Lol. You watched different testimony thsn i did.. he was emphatic according to the FACTS there was no QPQ wanted by Trump . He stated it many times. Trump made no efforts to influence 2020. And he needed assurances that Z really was a reformer . Burisma is a corrupt company and asking for them and Joe Bidens role in the company's dealings was not even close to impeachable..
More 2+2=635. Burisma may or may not be code for hunter Biden who like it or not clearly violated the emoluments clause when he was paid more than ten times what people in similar size corporations In similar positions make. Corruption has been endemic to Ukraine for decades Trump's request to clean up corruption is no different than Biden's save for the fact that he had no relatives getting paid mega bucks working for a Ukrainian corporation.
HOWEVER it does prove a Positive.That those like Me me me me me Me have been right all along.Every since I came to this here Political Forum. The real problem in this Country is Our Media.That have been Corrupted. Like our University's.Like melting pot big cities.Take yer pick. Our media is being exposed like no other time in Modern American History.How despicably craven and corrupt they seem willing to abide.Probably because it Pays to Plays.Like Obama/Rahm Emanuel Chicago commie style politics.Commies are never w/o an agenda. They are driven with an almost single mindset.Like a Bill Ayers. Our heartland is not into this leftist commie talk mindset. They are too busy trying to live out some version of the American Dream. The Mainstream media { thematic group } who work for leftist media or press have notable salaries and probably summer homes. So,in their mind,having achieved a relative standard for the American Dream cannot be bothered with what those in the Heartland think or want. That is the grip those like House Democrats hold over the Media. That democrats biggest ally and benefactor are the Mainstream media. They are working in tandem,hand and glove.
I agree. Any investigation initiated on a tip to law enforcement resulting in a judgement of imprisonment should be immediately rescinded and those incarcerated should be released from prison immediately. Notes from the rabbit hole...
Whistleblowers are NOT afforded anonymity.Just as there IS an Impeachment clause.There was Collusion in our 2016 Election.Not By Trump & C0. with Russia, but by Hillary and the DNC with Russia AND the Ukraine.That is what Bill Barr is seriously looking into as well a tough as nails U.S. Attorney { John Dunham }. Yes,an Inspector general who fields and is the person in Government who Oversees and makes a determination as to how valid a Whistleblower claim.The Whistleblower also has to be blowing the whistle on things related to their agency as far as illegality,fraud or abuse of power. The Inspector General is the one who is legally bound to keep the Identity of a Whistleblower to himself.Not the Press or Politicians. As usual these Democrats are Liars & leakers and belligerent. Like this Jackie Speier House Democrat creepola.Who used her time to make a retort about the Washington Post fact checking report giving the status of anonymity to a Whistleblower as used by House chair Adam Schiff, THREE Pinocchios.Where 4 pinoccios means its totally false. This Speier creep snapped back " The President has 5 Pinocchios on a daily basis,so let's not go there." Of course not go there.Because you just Lied.There is no such thing as FIVE Pinocchios,you self-enamored California hussy. Also exporting her minx ways on the Hill's reporting.That she refuses to use or read The Hill until they do something about John Solomon's reporting. Because the guy is just marvy at accurately uncovering abuse of office or how Democrats pull strings that it's making Democrats look like Mob Bosses.Which is how Commisar Schiff acts while on the bench with his widdle gavel.
Lets be real clear here folks.The bottom line as far as Democrats and their water boys in the MSM is quite simple.That Trump and anyone in his orbit Must be Condemned at all costs on a daily basis.Simple yet effective Stalinistic order that must be met.Established by who. The clan members who decided such things.,Like Jim Crow. Poll tax.How to report and follow Obama's determination that if he had a son,it would be Trayvon Martin. In other words how to Break this Country apart.
Now everyone knows that MSM = Fake News. That's why Trumps polling numbers have gone up during the coverage of these sham "hearings".
Trump told Sondland that on Sept. 9. The Whistleblower complaint was turned over to the intelligence I.G. on Aug. 12. By early September the House had gotten wind of it and began investigating. By Sept. 9, Trump knew he had been caught, hence, his reply to Sondland. On Sept. 11, Trump lifted the hold on the badly needed military aid to Ukraine.
That's certainly your opinion.. You mean the badly needed aid that the Ukrainians haven't bothered to move to the front lines yet?
I think it was a near perfect move by former House Chair { Intelligence Committee } Devon Nunes to start off each Impeachment Inquiry hearing with a stopgap introduction statement.It was very crucial,in order to combat what Shifty Schiff was pulling.Or using his bogus Impeachment hearing as a Show Trial in order to cement the impression as to how President Trump abuses his authority and negatively influences those in his orbit. Actually that is what Schiff and the Democrats are doing.Again ... another lesson in how to use Projection as a tactic.A very popular way the Democrats play Politics or shoot dirty pool.Using this Unamercan tactic while adding-in versions of Rules for Radicals.Plus Groupthink.Barack Obama's favorite tools.A little Rules then doublespeak,and ending with Groupthink. Like bootleg whisky from a practiced bootlegger.The effect being almost as gnarly as drinking bathtub gin. Because it was Devon Nunes ONLY way to really have the Republican counterpart for Defense of a sitting President.To straightforwardly point out the real villains in all this.It was the Democrats.It was Obama's Deep State and the Hillary/DNC use of a dossier { Steele } that was used to Spy and then Frame { insurance policy } Donald Trump. That infamous Steele Dossier where NOT ONE House Democrats would mention let alone admit was solid direct evidence as to who the Real culprits are in all this Digging up dirt on a Political rival. Come December 9th the Country will have that Solid Direct Evidence explained in fine detail via the IG's F.I.S.A. report. I rest me case.
