Anti-mask protests

converted but either not used or used for a short period of time and they are back to doing electives and have been for some time

Let's also not mention the funding sent by the govt to most hospitals to try and fill the hole left by electives put on hold

 

Compared to the last pandemic, Covid is just a drop in the ocean. In the US alone, H1N1 causes 61 million reported cases. That is more than double the number of C19 cases. No lockdown, no masks, all we t along as planned. It’s not ignorant to state the obvious.. We have been through worse than this, and we didn’t trample of private citizens a lives to get through it. Why must I repeat the H1N1 stat? It proves the measures being taken now are unnecessary. And I continue to drill it into peoples skulls until people snap out of this hypochondriac trance . If we made it through H1N1 without masks, we will make it through this without masks.

That is the medical community. They choose to confine themselves to mask wearing. Not wearing a mask does not guarantee you spread a virus. If you want to mitigate, go in the direction of Sweden. And even still, we most likely will not see the same amount of cases of C19 that we did with H1N1. The Swedish government only limited gatherings to 50 people and closed universities, that’s all the mitigation we need. They flattened their curve with non intrusive mitigation, why can’t the US?

This route to tyranny the US is taking is ridiculous. If you want mitigation, make it non intrusive or give it up.

 

hmm, your avoidance tells me that your anecdotal hospital is doing electives. As for the mask, it's a neck gaiter and can be bought on Amazon. If the mask police have their way, they won't allow them any more. By the way, that's not me in the avatar but I do have a large collection of comical neck gaiters to use as long as the silly masking up policies remain

 

⬅A favorite ⬅ Do-It-Yourself

 

Of course.

I worked for a manufacturer for about a decade. Our government contract was very eye-opening. Every year, about six weeks before the budget period ended, our government sales contact would get a call. "I need to spend $154,398.38 before X date. I don't care what you send me, just get it to that exact total." I've been mad at the government pretty much since 1993.

 

... because if I didn't, I would be out of a job. My employer wishes to comply with the bullshit mandates of the city/county/state, so if I wish to have an income, I have to at least put the damn face diaper on in some way/shape/form... This sort of tyranny and compulsion from Democrats is why I vote Republican.

... because I enjoy being able to breathe fresh air as a human being was made to breathe it...

With regard to viruses, it has no value whatsoever even if one wears it properly...

It is taking away one's right to make their own healthcare decisions.
It is unnatural to wear one for eight plus hours a day.
They are meant for wood/dust/sand/pollen/etc, not for viruses.
As a f*** you to the tyrannical communist compulsive evil oppressive Satanic f***s that the Democrat Party have become.
Oh, and because I don't wish to wear one, plain and simple. I don't wish to be a sheeple baaaahhhhhhh

What gives you the right to force me to wear one?

Irrelevant tangent mostly ignored on sight. And guess what your tangent exposes, that I HAVE A CHOICE as to what road I wish to take... The tyrannical evil oppressive compulsive Satanic f***ks (aka the Democrat Party) with this covid hoax are not even letting you choose road A or road B... They are telling you that you MUST choose road A because they deem it to be the proper choice because "reasons". Again, this is why I vote Republican.

... and other scientific studies show that wearing a mask doesn't do any good. I'm not interested in your "appeal to experts" and "appeal to popularity" BS... I am instead going to stick with mathematics and engineering, which tells me that mask pores are much too large to stop viruses. Stop falling for the hoax, dude...

Because I wish to adhere to logic, mathematics, science, and engineering rather than denying them.

Neither, although it is tempting to lie and say that I have a medical condition to get around the State mandate... But no matter, I've just been ignoring the State mandate anyway and going into stores without wearing a mask.

I am quite healthy. I am a healthy weight and am an avid hiker (and I bike occasionally), so I am in fairly good shape. Let's just say that I can hike in strenuous conditions for at least six hours straight without once stopping for any reason... While not "impossible" to breathe through a mask by any means, it is definitely nothing like just breathing in fresh air without a mask on... you know, as God created us to do??

Nope. I've tested that already, and my oxygen levels decrease (very slightly, but still a decrease) when I wear a mask.

 

I hear ya. I gave up trying to convince Trump loyalists to wear masks. It's the inevitable consequence of ... not only absolute lack of leadership (that would be too good), but a supposed leader who is doing all he can to undermine efforts to deal with this pandemic.

 

1. What makes you think that I'm trying to force you to wear a mask? I've never supported mask mandates, much the opposite, and I said so multiple times.
2. I couldn't care less for your opinion of the Democratic Party. I'm not a Democrat and what I'm talking about is from the standpoint of science, not politics.
3. You say you rely on science and the virus is smaller than the pores... You might brush up on Brownian Motion. The right kinds of masks to filter out 98% of viruses the size of this coronavirus, as multiple studies have shown. That's thanks to Brownian Motion. Learn about it.
4. Good that you're in top shape. You might want to look at the personal trainer, 31 years old, no underlying conditions, who is now going through severe shortness of breath, likely permanent, due to the damage to her heart from SARS-CoV-2 myocarditis. This virus is more dangerous than you think. You may approach it from the standpoint of Logic, Mathematics, Sciene, and Engineering, but I'm approaching it from the standpoint of Medicine. That's a better approach when to topic is a virus.
5. Sorry, but your position is as irrational as picking road B although you didn't want to listen to my analogy. You are, of course, free to do it. I'd rather that you didn't, though, because as a healthcare worker for most of my life, I care for preventing disease.

 

You know how we can get them to wear masks, right? We need to tell them that masks don't do anything for the virus, but they prevent Bill Gates and George Soros from spying on them using face recognition software through the 5G network.

 

~ Would it surprise anyone if the "new" study finds the public wearing surgical masks actually contributed to spreading the Wuhan virus ..?

 

Yes it would, since it makes no scientific sense whatsoever. So you put a barrier between people and the virus (and surgical masks are actually a much more efficient barrier than cloth masks), but somehow it increases transmission? Yeah, right. Do you guys have an endless stock of nonsensical ideas???

 

Weird you didn't link to the peer reviewed paper. Please do so, now.

 

~ Not weird. No more links. They are "unreliable". [ read my previous links ] We post opinions here. Nobody really knows anything - including the experts". We are all guessing.
But we do know this : cloth bandanas and tissue masks are a breeding ground for bacteria. They should at least be rinsed in alcohol each day.

 

So, people who are stupid about masks are the reason NOBODY should use them?

I'll wear my seatbelt anyway. Thanks.

Your opinion should NEVER be confused with 100 year old science.

 

~ This conversation is redundant - but somewhat amusing .

 

Then I'll rephrase. You personally are not forcing me to wear a mask, but you are enabling a Satanically possessed party (the Democrat Party) that is trying to force me to wear a mask. Quite frankly, anyone who is not voting Republican is part of the problem, as they are enabling Democrat Party tyranny and Satanism. Even plenty of people who vote Republican are completely unaware of what is about to hit them once the Democrats take over... It is not going to be pretty... All freedoms that we've been used to having are going to go down the memory hole.

No, you are denying science and you are denying what the Democrat Party is.

Brownian motion does not stop or prevent the spread of a virus. You are now denying the engineering specs of these masks as well.

Quite frankly, if masks worked, then the places that have had mask mandates in effect for many months now would have seen covid-19 cases drop dramatically (and any other virus/bacteria), but nope, the fake news media keeps telling me that cases are perpetually "increasing" and "spiking", even months after these mask mandates went into effect. So, is the fake news media lying about the numbers, do masks not work to stop viruses, or (as I believe) is it both?

There is nothing dangerous about this virus. The fear mongering surrounding this virus is a globalist hoax.

Meh. I pick road B. I'm not falling for the Satanic globalist hoax.

Also remember that there is money involved in pumping up the case/death numbers, that this virus (as has been whistle-blowed) was created in a lab in Wuhan (it did NOT come about naturally) and was likely purposely released upon the world...


Oh, and as a "medical mind", you should know full well that having a healthy person wear a mask is completely useless as well as pointless, as one cannot spread a virus that they don't have...

 

Wear a mask all you want dude. I am for freedom. I am for you being able to make your own healthcare decisions.

 

"Peer reviewed" does not mean "holy"... a peer reviewed paper is not The Bible...

 

Have you forgotten that when Trump was immediately taking travel ban actions and the such that Democrats were all calling him racist, xenophobic, and accusing him of fear mongering?? Go look up the media headlines from very early this year... The virus was being downplayed by DEMOCRATS (while Trump was IMPLEMENTING TRAVEL BANS and the such)...

Stop trying to rewrite history, dude... You're not fooling me.

 

Correct. Peer reviewed means the results are repeatable under the same set of circumstances. Sort of like miracles, except not at all like miracles.

Jesus appearing in toast is not science, because it is not reliably repeatable. Gravity is science, because, repeatable.

It's an easy distinction.

 

I assure you that people who reject 100 year old science knowledge are not at all amusing. Carry on and have a good day. 42.

 

Worth noting that these same covidiots want to trash Obamacare thereby ensuring that they are CONSISTENT when it comes to making bad choices.

And on the ironic side these are the same people who blame those born into poverty for making "bad choices".

Ignorance can be remediated by education but abject stupidity is incurable.

 

As a rule, I place conspiracy theorists on Ignore, so that's your destiny as far as I'm concerned; have a nice, safe, and long life. Before you go the way all conspiracy theorists go on my screen, I remind you that according to the Admin of this site, conspiracy theories are not to be posted here (Covid forum) but rather in the Conspiracy forum.

This virus is not man made which has been verified by analysis of its genome, but hey, conspiracy theorists won't change their minds even if evidence hits them in the head, so, I'm sure you'll say that we are just sheeeeeeeeeeeple for believing in genome analysis. And you call yourself someone in tune with the sciences, LOL.

As for "the sky will fall if the Dems win" that was what was said in both Obama elections and last I checked the sky was still up there.

Brownian Motion DOES stop 0.1 micron particulates in 0.3 micron pores and THAT's what research has shown including in Physics departments of our leading universities, but again, feel free to deny it because that's what conspiracy theorists do.

es, what you said about masks not causing drop in transmission is precisely what happened in Kansas where 15 counties implemented mask mandates and 90 did not, and all 15 with the mandate posted steep declines while all 90 that did not, did not have any decline. Huh, interesting, right? Anyway, it's a correlation but a suggestive one.

"There is nothing dangerous about this virus" - that's laughable. You're not qualified to understand it, and that's so laughable that I won't further waste my time showing to you how wrong you are; you wouldn't believe in it anyway.

Money involved in reporting more cases - debunked numerous times. You don't seem to understand how death certificates are written and how dangerous it is for physicians to defraud the system, and how 99.9% of physicians are not willing to do that, but hey, again, juicy conspiracy theory that serves your purposes so I'm sure you say that although I'm intimately connected to this system through 40 years of professional activity, you'll say that I'm sheeeeeeeeeeeple blaaaaaaah for knowing how it works, unlike you.

A healthy person wearing a mask is not useless; it's what we healthcare workers have been doing for 100+ years, and I posted 29 studies showing reduction in risk for heathy wearers with the SARS-1, MERS, and SARS-CoV-2 coronaviruses, so your idea that masks don't help with viruses is again ridiculous.

Your post is one of the most ridiculous I've read here and enough justification to place you on Ignore even if you weren't a conspiracy theorist. Good bye forever, over and out. (Oh, go ahead and respond, I'm sure you won't be able to resist the temptation, but do know that I won't read your twisted response, thankfully; life is too short to waste time with conspiracy theorists).

 

People still talking about Trump's travel "ban" should read the executive order and pay attention to the loooooooooong list of exceptions. That "ban" was more porous than a Swiss cheese and allowed 40,000 people to come from China to the US and seed the virus everywhere. Then the person should look at a proper tight ban like Argentina's to understand the difference.