Antifa attacks in Portland

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uh, he went to jail.
     
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    LOL...is that your defense of the Proud boys extremists?
     
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    Except there are righties on this site made excuses and defended his action. Funny you don't remember.
     
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    Show the violence that they have supposedly caused, and the individuals they have directly harmed. Merely calling them extremist is simply not good enough.
     
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    You support the Proud Boys?

    Are you a member?
     
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    The "milk shake" was soy milk, quick drying cement, and other additives to create burns. Antifa is a violent group and go out with bottles of urine, sticks, and stone, looking to 'bash a Nazi' as they say. The Proud Boys did not start any violence.

    Like in NY in the link, they organized on Twitter, bought tickets and planned to 'bash a Nazi'. They attacked a 56 year old Jew that lost relatives during the Holocaust. They are a dangerous group and have upped their violent game since the media treats them with kid gloves and blames other (it's the left wing way). Your support for them is really more about you than anything else.
     
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    Everyone has supporters, regardless of the actions that they have committed, or the harm they have caused to others.
     
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    What is it the lefties say here? Whataboutism. LOL I suppose anything goes to defend left wing violence.
     
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    If it is not possible for yourself to demonstrate the individuals they have directly harmed, by being the first to initiate physical violence, then your position of opposition holds no legitimate merit. Words do not have the ability to cause physical harm, no matter what subject matter they may convey. Unless there are preemptive physical assaults that can be pointed to by yourself, you have nothing except hatred for differing beliefs and ideals.
     
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    Reading comprehension failure. Please show me were I've defended this action? I said otherwise. I'm pointing out the rights' hypocrisy when it comes to violence on their side. They've made all sorts of excuses and defended that killer. You just want to make this go away by calling out "whataboutism" although it's germaine to this discussion. You can't even bring yourself to condemn that killer, it's telling.
     
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    They are what they are.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys
     
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    I see...then why create a fake outrage of a thread condemning only one side? It's typical of this poster. He wasn't outrage when that woman was ran over. Why? Because somebody on the right did it?
     
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    You certainly haven't condemned it so...
     
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    The violent left wing is ok according to the Govenor and the radical left mainstreAm news including violent behavior and attacking innocent Reporters. The left is hypocritical.

    If the right had protested and did the same, I am sure they would have been arrested.

    Watch out the non-violent center and right can only take so much. We are getting very mad. Near the breaking point.? The socialist and radical left is going to lose the election for Democrats, thanks for that.

    But keep it up and you will face an onslaught of moderate and conservatives that refuse to take this abuse any longer.
     
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    I guess you failed to understand post 19. My position on AntiFa is clear. They are a bunch of nitwits, but so are the Proud boys. Unlike you, I condemn BOTH.
     
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    Except you perpetrated FAKE NEWS. The ass that assaulted the reporter was ARRESTED. I'm guessing you too defend the Proud boys action in this melee.
     
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    Antifa are dangerous with intent to harm. Proud boys will fight back so that is apparently the issue you have with them.
     
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    The article cited on the part of yourself does very little to demonstrate the group initiated any significant level of violence against others without provocation, or directly caused harm to anyone. At best it is nothing more than a list of grievances that stem from the belief that not all races are truly equal.

    The citation on the part of yourself even admits that the FBI does not consider or classify the Proud Boys organization to be an extremist group.

    The above citation is nothing more than a complaint by yourself that you do not like their viewpoints, and wish for them to be punished on the basis of what they believe.
     
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    LOL...just like I thought. Proud boys ain't nothing but trouble makers out to look for trouble. The protest most likely wouldn't have turn violent until they showed up.
     
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    Why are so many individuals, especially in the united states, so overwhelmingly infatuated with serial killers? Why are there so many who are convinced that they love those who have harmed and killed so many innocent victims?
     
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    Meaning that so long as no one says anything that may potentially hurt the feelings of others, there is no issue to be had. Meaning that hurt feelings are regarded as a legal justification for committing physical violence against others, as such is the only way to assuage those hurt feelings.
     
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    I don't support them.

    Sounds like you support The Proud Boys and Nazis.
     
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    And what "hurt feelings" do these "Proud" boys harbor?

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/prou...-after-nyc-attacks_n_5c799948e4b0e5e313ca5030

    You can defend them all you want, but they are known trouble makers.
     
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    He just can't bring himself to condemn them at all. What a surprise.
     
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    Far-Right Extremists Wanted Blood In Portland’s Streets. Once Again, They Got It
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/andy-ngo-quillette-antifa-proud-boys_n_5d1a1275e4b07f6ca5811e0c

    These rallies are specifically organized for the purpose of violence, with makeshift weaponry and bloodied, tearful faces appearing in Portland with regularity over the years. HuffPost has reported on how far-right extremists who organize them meticulously plan to attack their ideological opponents and then claim victimhood when the dust settles.

    We saw the same on Saturday, when the Proud Boys extremist gang hosted yet another one of its street fights in Portland at which there were bound to be injuries.

    The real common thread between these rallies has always been the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer, semi-regular insurgencies in a city their leaders don’t call home.

    The dangerous, gory aspect of these rallies is a well-known, regular occurrence, and planned in advance by far-right organizers like the Proud Boys. HuffPost reported on the group’s private online planning in May, in which Proud Boys spent months plotting what armor and weapons to bring to maim or kill anti-fascists; which police officers might be sympathetic to their cause; tactics in street fights; and how to assert claims of self-defense if they were to face charges.
     

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