anybody else here excited about the Rams coming back to LA?

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    Honestly I never even knew they left! :smile:
     
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    LOL - apparently I am not the only person who considers the St.Louis Rams situation, vis-a-vis the possibility of them becoming the Los Angeles Rams, as a pertinent football story...........news is news, and this story has been running for over 20-years, like a broken record.............:wall:
     
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    so what deserted Island have you been living on the last 20 years by chance?:grin:
     
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    Wake Island.
     
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    I believe it.lol
     
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    Now that its been established that the Rams are coming back to LA in post numbers 145 and 148 "only way its not is this is the greast hoax in sports history involving the city of inglewood,the media,stan kroneke and all the construction workers in inglewood.I seriously doubt that is the case.:roflol:" since the NFL is pushing for two teams,a lot of people like herkdriver for example.along with many other credible people in the media like al michales and former rams coach john robinson,they think the chargers will join them in a coupel of years.

    I dont think that will happen though.I dont think the NFL is going to want to lose the san diego market.It is too valuable of an NFL city.so what I see happening is in the end the Chargers will agree to a new stadium deal in mission valley and stay in san diego and then a few years down the road,there will be an expanasion team from the AFC to join the Rams in Inglewood.Makes the best business sense for the NFL and thats all it is in the end,is a business venture sadly.
     
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    The Rams (6-8) are staying on the West Coast for the final two games.

    It’s the first time in the franchise’s 21 seasons in St. Louis that it won’t be practicing at home for a regular-season game, .

    The backdrop is just a bit unusual, given owner Stan Kroenke wants to move the team back to Los Angeles.
    Rams set to finish season on West Coast

    Stan is giving his players plenty of time by getting started out there to look for new homes and get settled in is why they are staying out there,they brought everything with them from st louis that they always leave at home for road trips obviously..:biggrin:

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    2016 LOS ANGLES Rams just as i called it with MAYBE the Chargers joining them in a couple years.

    LA RAMS 2016
    stan kroneke is the only guy that has a project and is ready to go.does not need any approval,financing is set in inglewood,has a team to move there because he owns the Rams,he wants to go.@Kdubblive: "Kroenke has the money to make this happen, and why force him to go back to St. Louis when he doesn't want to go back, because quite honestly, he doesn't want to stay in St. Louis."

    https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/esp...53150451240981
     
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    9/11 ya just don't get it do you? First - the NFL owners have awarded half a dozen new teams, and permitted team movement, for 20-years, while ignoring Los Angeles. The reason is - NO STADIUM - and if, and until, Los Angeles; Carson or Inglewood breaks ground for a new stadium, the league owners are just not going to vote the Rams into the hellhole that is the Los Angeles Coliseum for 2-3 years, unless that new stadium is under construction - not just financing approval, environmental studies, neighborhood impact studies; pre-season ticket sales; an adios from the Gateway To The West, St.Louis, would be the third professional sports team to abandon that city, and they came within a whisker, twice, of losing the St.Louis Blues hockey team. If Kronke want's out of St.Louis, and St.Louis doesn't care - nobody cares where his club ends up.....Las Vegas; San Antonio; Birmingham; London, England, or Los Angeles, California. It just isn't an interesting story, we have seen it over, and over and over for 20-years with the league. The Los Angeles Coliseum is inadequate, even as a stop gap, for NFL football, UNLESS a new stadium is under construction - NOT PLANNING on being built. Even as quirky a guy as Al Davis was, he knew enough to bail out of the LA Coliseum, and with a Super Bowl team to boot, to, of all places........Oakland?..........as one newspaper wag put it, Al Davis and the Raiders abandoning Los Angeles for Oakland improved the social and society level of both cities. Bringing in a losing St.Louis Rams team to LA, just to satisfy the market - something NFL owners would like done, but have taken no action on in 20-years, is just common sense that they don't really care about filling the LA market much - the NFL has gotten along fine without any team there. And now - you keep posting this is such a done deal - the team is going to spend two weeks in Los Angeles to end the season? Hell, Kronke doesn't even know who will be on the team in the 2016-2017 season - two weeks to plan relocations for family, obtain housing information, neighborhoods, schools...............come on............the only reason the Rams are staying on the West Coast is to prepare for two back-to-back games there, it is simply a money move. It's done all the time. Most NFL teams are required to fly to their visiting location on Friday - practice on Saturday, and return on Sunday, unless the get league permission to change travel arrangements - as is the case with the London games. I am not against you favorite team going to LA, and they are not the ONLY team in the running to move there - just don't want to see the rest of the league get stuck having to play in that old dump, and than listening to Kronke, when no new stadium construction is started because of some harm that will be cause environmentally to a snail darter of something, holding up construction, and he threatens to move em again. That's what happens with these things. Luck - but it just isn't an interesting story whatsoever............
     
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    It is entirely possible that the Buffalo Bills will likely play at least one, and possible two regular season games in Los Angeles next season. With their win over Dallas, pushing them to a meager 7-8 mark (Rex Ryan's mouth was bigger than his talent and motivation), Buffalo locked up third place in the AFC-East this year, which means they will play the third place team in the AFC West - Oakland's Raiders, next season, and talk is already circling around the NFL that the Bills and Raiders will play the game in LA, as it is a home game for Oakland. Also on Buffalo's schedule for next year are the St.Louis Rams, so, if the league goes ahead and votes the move for the Rams back to their old stomping grounds, the Buffalo - St.Louis game also would be played in LA, with the Rams as the home team. Interesting. Oakland-Buffalo, age old rivalry, probably would be scheduled as a test of the Los Angeles NFL market viability, and the Rams, well, if they actually are in LA, they host Buffalo. It appears as the rumor mill grinds on, the Oakland and St.Louis would move together to Los Angeles to fill the NFL void of 20-years without a team. The Bay Area has the San Francisco 49'ers, while losing the San Diego Charger's leaves that city with no home club. More likely move is the trial game, Bills-Raiders, and if the league actually does move the Rams, Buffalo is in Los Angeles for two games next season. The last time Buffalo played the Los Angeles Raiders in LA, they put Bo Jackson's career to rest with a horrible hip pointer injury as he was sliding out of bounds. The only other recent time was the 52-17 blowout by Dallas in the Super Bowl............
     
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    decided to take you off ignore where i had you for the last few months since the past few months you ignored everything "I' posted that they are a done deal.had to return the favor,taking you off ignore for a sec,i decided to read the last sentence in your bible length posts you make here

    The idea that the Rams and Chargers both go to LA, and the Oakland Raiders move into St.Louis, possible, even probable.

    see thats not what you were saying before,all you said before despite the mountains of evidence that they are indeed as good as gone was the ignorant tiresome crap of-The Rams going to LA is a pipe dream.:roll:

    you dismissed the mountains of evidence i gave you that countered that fantasy you had that LA was a pipe dream for the rams when i mentioned st louis is bankrupt and cannot afford another stadium because they cant even pay off the current stadium.:roll:

    stan is NOT going to keep playing in that dump in stank louis and yet you had fantasys that LA was a pipe dream,or am I going to have to go copy and paste that for you where said all that BS before?:roll:

    the fact you live in this fantasy world the CIA is not an even evil organization on par with the third reich,i can NOW see why you came up with that fairy tale that LA is a pipe dream for kroneke.no surpirse now that i know that..:roflol:
     
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    You really need to get your ducks in a row. What the heck does the CIA have to do with a football post? You drinking or something - that is so off the mark, I am beginning to wonder about your sanity.

    Latest word out of the NFL regarding the Los Angeles market, is major, impressive presentations to the league by both the San Diego Chargers who are tired of fighting for a new stadium down south, and the Oakland Raiders - in a partnership for a move together to the Los Angeles market, with a new stadium built for them in Carson, California.

    Alex Spanos of the Chargers even appeared on video before the NFL owners for the presentation. Everything paperwork, legal, etc, has been completed and presented to the league, which announced San Diego; Oakland, and St.Louis had all filed to move to the Los Angeles territory, and their presentations were correct.

    What is being ignored is a move in St.Louis to build the Rams a new stadium there, where Kronke isn't willing to negotiate with the city. Decision will come on January 13 or 14, when the location committee makes a major recommendation to the other league owners as to who gets to go to Los Angels. All this was on ESPN a couple of days ago.

    Rams might be the choice, but if there is any hope of a negotiation with the City of St. Louis over a new stadium there, and the fact that the NFL owners and the commish have always wanted the San Diego Chargers to move up north and fill the Los Angeles market, the owners could very well hesitate and turn the Rams down flat. If San Diego is interested in moving, and they have officially filed for the move, in conjunction with another AFC rival, the Oakland Raiders, that combination may be too attractive to the NFL owners to pass up, but we will know next. week. Luck, meanwhile, why can't you just be a good little fan and root for the Kansas City Chiefs like everybody else does in Missouri, and stop worrying about the Rams, a team you probably will never see play live in Los Angeles in your life. Either way not losing sleep over it, only football story that interest's me is firing Rex Ryan of the Buffalo Bills, and getting a qualified coach in there for next year, as Ryan's system stunk, with the Bills falling from 4th defensively in the league to 30th this year - going 8-8, and missing the playoffs for the 16th straight season. Buffalo fans are jaded and fanatical, but even they have their limits - and the owners spend $94.3 million dollars for the front four defensive players on the club, and still they could sack or beat Tom Brady, and kicked away their playoff chances by losing to the Chiefs..................
     
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    Chiefs fans are obnoxious. I'd never root for a Kansas City team. If the Rams move to LA, I'll go back to doing what I did when the St. Louis Cardinals moved to Arizona....and St. Louis had no NFL team.

    Not giving a rat's patoot about professional football.

    Oh sure I'll watch some games on Sunday..but it's just a way to pass the time. I won't care about the draft, fantasy football, the whole kit and caboodle will mean nothing to me aside from investing a few hours on a Sunday afternoon to watch a game on television.

    No NFL in St. Louis?

    Life goes on...

    Whiskey Charlie

    Who cares.

    It's an opiate for the masses anyway; driven by greed.
     
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    Pretty fair opinion, IMO. The NFL is, of course, nothing but a money machine designed to separate you from your hard earnings. Sport and entertainment, yes, sure, but certainly when looked at closely, it is of no consequence on the American landscape serving any purpose, except mostly low level employment positions; janitor's; waiter's; waitresses; security; parking attendants; line cooks serving ball park food, priced so high the Security's & Exchange Commission should fine the NFL owners billions for price gouging. Those employed in the technical end bringing the games to us on the television, work mega hours, at not particularly high pay rates, to put "color" and play by play broadcasters on the television - ho hum to all of em. What is even worse, is that youngsters in college, who have the athletic ability to actually play the game, are subjected to 2-5 years commitment, at $200 a month (the NFL stipend for student athletes), to be banged; bruised; maimed on college fields like Notre Dame; Ohio State; Miami; Clemson; Alabama; Mississippi; Georgia; Syracuse - on-and on and on. All for the fleeting chance to be "discovered" and possibly drafted onto an NFL team and receive a contract - chances are exceptionally slim for the majority of them. So, professional sports, IMO, are really not worth much, or very important to anybody in the grand scheme of things in our lives. Better a job; bike ride or swimming, than a couch recliner every Saturday and Sunday, watching games. Besides - unless the pros are a blowout game, it seems they all end the same way - on a 50-yard pass interference penalty on the final heave of the game. Tom Brady has probably won more football games with the advantage of holding or that 50-yard penalty, than any person in the history of the game - seems the refs are set up for it, and never, ever, give the defense the benefit of the doubt. The college rule is much more intelligent. 10-yard penalty, loss of down, from the line of scrimmage. The pass interference rule is punishment which doesn't fit the crime, yet it decides the majority of the pro game each Sunday.

    Back to the St.Louis Rams, and whether their owner can out duel the heady combination of the San Diego Chargers, the team the NFL has always wanted in the Los Angeles market), combining with the rapscallion Oakland Raiders as partners in a new stadium in Carson, California, vs a single move by the Rams to the Los Angeles Coliseum dump while Inglewood debates a new stadium for a team that hasn't arrived, or gotten permission to move in yet, remains to be seen. I lived in Los Angeles and San Diego, when the Los Angeles Rams were playing there, and can tell you honestly, that LA fans are as mediocre and fair weather ones as those in Miami for the Dolphins. No fanatical Eagles or Jets fans out there. The favorite team while I was there, always was the Dallas Cowboys, who trained at Thousand Oaks and Oxnard since arriving in the league in 1961. In fact, when the Rams played the Cowboys for the NFC title once, there were more Cowboy jerseys and regalia in the stands than there were Ram's. Not a good sign for any particular team or sport, than, or in the future. Raiders - Chargers vs Rams in Los Angeles? Suddenly, after the NFL has ignored that huge market for 20-years, passing on giving them a team seven times, we are faced with three clubs who want to go there. Same principal applies - relocating into the Los Angeles Coliseum for 2-3 years while a bankrupt city tries to come up with public financing for billionaire owners who are perfectly capable of building stadiums for themselves and financing them also, not what the NFL has in mind - if it was - they would have filled the Los Angeles market in 1995. Care? Not a bit? Don't really think there are many people in Southern California who care about NFL football anyways, no public clamor for a new stadium to draw a team there. "If you build it - they will come" - perhaps - but I wouldn't bet the farm on it, and the fan base isn't very enthusiastic. My general opinion is that the San Diego-Oakland alliance will get a better reception to move, than the St.Louis Rams will, and St.Louis is negotiating for a new stadium there for the Rams. If that goes through, the NFL isn't going to let Kronke move his club. Meanwhile, the Chargers and Raiders play in stadiums almost as bad as the Coliseum already. Luck to all, but I don't think it is a sports-news story worth more than a couple of days print...............:bored:
     
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    hey if you can change the subject of something that has nothing to do with the topic so can I.:roll:

    when i was in the politics section sometime back talking about how the CIA and the mossad are starting wars with other countrys you came in and started up with crap saying if the CIA is so powerful,than why dont they move the rams back to LA which was pretty childish.:roll:

    if you cant remember doing that,than thats tough,you DID say that in a section that had NOTHING to do with sports.:roll:

    so if you bring the topic of the rams into a politics discussion then its fair game dude.

    not my fault you have alzheimers disease.:roll:

    there you go playing dodgeball again ignoring what i said you kept saying for a long time the Rams going back to LA is a pipe dream.you are evading that fact that you said that.

    hate to break the news to you charlie but someone who says The Rams moving back to LA is a pipe dream like you did throughout this whole thread until recently despite all the mountains of evidence i gave you that they were indeed as good as gone is HARDLY someone that should talk about someones sanity when you you refused to listen to anything i said,blatantly ignored facts,and only listened to YOUR OWN POINT OF VIEW.

    you were closed minded for months about this refusing to look at the facts,there were a couple others that came on here and saw the same thing that I did and told you the same thing,that you just ignore facts all the time that they are indeed as good as gone.you cant deny it,just go back and check.lol

    Now that the media is coming out NOW saying they expect an announcement to be made soon on a team moving back to LA,you NOW are taking it serious,before you would listen to a single thing i posted despite the mountains of evidence i showed that they were indeed gone,you just kept coming back with the tiresome crap of-THE RAMS GOING BACK TO LA IS A DREAM.dont deny it,you said that AT LEAST TWICE in this thread.:roll:

    now that you see that there indeed IS going to be a team back in LA soon which you kept INSISTING there would not be one,here,let me give you this rag,so you can wipe the egg off your face after embarrassing yourself and looking stupid.:roflol:

    back to ignore,all you do is evade facts and go into evasion mode when i talk about how you made yourself look stupid after i bring up that all i heard from you was the rams going back to LA is a pipe dream.:roll:

    see I have my disagreements with herkdriver,but unlike with you,i can respect him because he does not evade facts all the time like you do and go into evasion mode constantly.thank god for the ignore button. as i said before,I sure am glad your not my lawyer,you would lose every case in the world for me the way you ignore everything that doesnt go along with your warped views.:roll:
     
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    its driven by greed thats for sure,no doubt.Thats what i asked you many times is when the Rams go back to LA ,if you were going to keep rooting for them or not.Dont know why you never wanted to answer that question,simple easy question.

    I seriously doubt st louis will ever get another football team.I could be wrong of course but why would anyone want to come there after losing TWO teams already?

    Dont know if you are one of them or not but i find it amusing that most st louis football fans are blaming kronke for the rams moving..lol

    they blame the wrong person,the rams did everything that was asked of them to do in the lease agreement signed 20 years ago,they honored the terms of the lease agreement,the city did not,the city never gave them the renovations that were required of them to do so in the lease agreement signed with the city 20 years and they are blaming kroneke for THEIR incompetence.:roll:

    st louis should never have another football team again,they sure as hell dont deserve the rams.they are ignorant about the history of them.I remember seeing some ram fans in st louis when talking about trying to keep them there they said in the video-the rams belong in st louis. I was like WTF? seriously? how stupid can those fans get? Lets see,the rams played 49 years in LA,21 in st louis,yet those dingbats somehow think the rams belong in st louis?:roflol::roll:

    they are so ignorant down there about the real history of the Rams many of them like those two guys actually dont even know that they were in LA before they came to st louis.they think they were an expansion team many of them.:roflol::roll:

    see thats the difference in st louis fans and LA Rams fans I have noticed. st louis football fans for the most part are all just like you.they will accept ANY football team.when the cardinals left,you guys were willing to take the Rams as a consolation prize.

    All the die hard Ram fans I talk to in LA at this LOS ANGELES RAMS message board i post at,they all feel exactly the same way i felt when the Rams left LA,they didnt want another team in LA when the NFL was talking about expansion 10 years ago or so,just like me they would rather LA have NO team,than have a team other than the Rams.they want the Rams and nobody else,that is why if the NFL is stupid enough to bring the chargers to LA as well,the chargers will flop. LA has NO CHARGER fans at all.

    they have far more raider fans in LA than charger fans and they never even supported the raiders there when they were in LA.it was mostly oakland fans that went up to LA to go to those games there.oakland fans have talked over the years saying the one difference they noticed in games in LA and in oakland is in LA,they had no problems getting tickets to games.:roflol:

    the raiders had half empty stadiums out there in LA when they were there,the chargers will do far worse if they are stupid enough to go there.

    LA will support only ONE TEAM,the Rams,thats it.

    LA football fans unlike in st louis,are loyal to the rams.they wont take any other team other than the rams,.they never wanted another team there if it wasnt the rams. same as me,I never have lived there but "I' never wanted LA to have another team if it was not the Rams.Rams only or nobody is how me and thousand of rams fans in LA feel.
     
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    and the fan base isn't very enthusiastic. My general opinion is that the San Diego-Oakland alliance will get a better reception to move, than the St.Louis Rams will, and St.Louis is negotiating for a new stadium there for the Rams. If that goes through, the NFL isn't going to let Kronke move his club. Meanwhile, the Chargers and Raiders play in stadiums almost as bad as the Coliseum already. Luck to all, but I don't think it is a sports-news story worth more than a couple of days print...............

    there you go as always demonstrating your ignorance on this subject :roll:

    uh the LA RAM fanbase was always in the top five in league attendance the majority of the time they were out there in LA.only time they were poor was in the 90's when they got disgusted with the evil woman owner who disrespected her husbands wishes to keep them in LA.if HE was still alive today,they never would have left. ram fans in LA BEGGED her to sell the team cause they got disgusted with her because she gutted the team getting rid of eric dickerson and many other ram greats so they stopped showing up,they stopped showing up not cause they hated the team and the poor play but because they hated the OWNER the evil woman georgia frontier who moved them.:roll:

    you really are cluless in your ramblings thinking the carson project with the raiders and chargers will fly.:roflol: carson ia hoax,that site is on a toxic wastedump,they are NEVER going to approve that move einstein,the NFL office LOVES the inglewood site,they are not impressed at all with the carson project of the raiders and chargers Einstein.:roflol:

    oh and how many freaking times do i have to tell you that st louis is bankrupt that they are MILLIONS in dollars in debt trying to pay off the current stadium so it will be impossible to get a new one.hahahahaa

    oh not only that,but roger goodel came out and said the st louis stadium plan is not a viable plan for the NFL why do you NEVER pay attention?:weed:
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


    there you go showing how clueless you are as well as always

    .for the HUNDRETH time,kroneke dies not need the permission of the NFL,he can LEGALLY move them.He has the LAW ON HIS SIDE,he can sue them if they try and stop him.

    im done with you,im sick of having to repeat the same freaking thing to you over and over and over again just to watch you ignore it and not remember anything i said.

    oh and these two videos disprove your ramblings and prove you are cluless as always that LA does not have passionate Rams fans.these are two games played in LA.looks like a packed stadium to me in both these vidoes with passionate rams fans.:roflol::roll:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP61GDj25x8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iepQ6vAipA

    the NFL wants an owner with deep pockets in LA,spanos and davis cannot afford the relocation fee they are charging to go to LA,kroneke is the only one that CAN. Einstein.lol
     
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    as i got done saying,unlike someone else here,i respect YOUR opinions Herkdriver and you as a poster even though we disagree on things about this issue of the rams going back to LA.since someone here refuses to look at the facts and wont take the time to watch these videos,do me a favor,could YOU watch these two videos here and tell him that i am correct,that the rams fans in LA are passionate fans that love the Rams? the proof is in the pudding in these two videos.

    this one is a game against your former ST LOUIS cardinals in 75 when the cardinals were a horrible team,yet this game at the LA coliseum,as you can see is PACKED to the max with passionate ram fans when AGAIN,it was against a team that was HORRIBLE and had a losing record no less and was not a rival of theirs.:roflol:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iepQ6vAipA

    Now look at this one,a game when they moved to anaheim in the early 90's against the Eagles.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iepQ6vAipA


    Looks like a packed full house full of pasionate Ram fans to me,agree?:roflol::roll::laughing:
     
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    as always,as I owned you back several months ago and i just now did in these LAST 3 posts as well,I do so again.lol Dont you ever get tired of showing you ramble on in your clueless rants embarrassing yourself constantly and getting owned by me and having me take you to school everyday here?:roflol:

    FIRST several months ago,you said the Rams going back to LA was nothing but a pipe dream despite the mountains of evidence i showed you that proved otherwise,that there were not going to be any teams in LA because the city is bankrupt blah blah blah blah "IGNORING THE FACT THAT ST ST LOUIS IS BANKRUPT AS WELL "MILLIONS" IN DEBT TRYING TO PAY OFF THE CURRENT STADIUM WHICH MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A NEW STADIUM IN ST LOUIS.:roflol::roll:


    NOW you have gone from saying its a pipe dream that there will be a team in LA next year,to switching gears saying the chargers and raiders will be there ignorant of the FACT that carson is a toxic land dump that you cant even breath in at that site,:roflol:

    hate to hurt your feelings and prove you wrong as always,but this link proves you never do any research and only see what you WANT to see.


    see herkdriver understands it,that its going to be rams and chargers.too bad you never look at the other side of the coin and only see your own point of warped view which is why you never read my posts or links or anything.

    its all black and white,its going to be the rams back in LA with MAYBE the chargers joining them. dean spanos hates kroneke so he may go back to san diego with his tail between his legs.lol.


    the headline in that link since you wont read it says -NFL OWNERS REPORTEDLY HOPING RAMS/CHARGERS STADIUM IN LOS ANGELES,SORRY RAIDERS.:roflol:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...hargers-stadium-in-los-angeles-sorry-raiders/
     
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    stanfan New Member Past Donor

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    I happen to be a Buffalo Bills fan, not a Rams fan.

    You seem unusually possessed about this topic for someone who doesn't even live in Los Angeles, probably couldn't find Inglewood on a map, and also probably have never seen the Rams play live, in LA, or St.Louis. I lived in Los Angeles and San Diego, went and saw both clubs many times - trust me, the Rams were a mediocre sports story most of the time out there, the Dallas Cowboys are Los Angeles' favorite NFL club.

    You have been posting this 7th grade screed for a long time now. You haven't "owned me" - "schooled me" - "enlightened me" or changed my opinion a bit. It is a very minor sports story - nobody else has joined in on it.

    If the NFL fills the LA territory - with your beloved Rams - the Chargers or the Raiders - or all of them, they are playing in the Los Angeles Coliseum, for at least 2-3 years. Trust me - if nobody is going to Ram games in St.Louis, the laid-back Los Angeles sports fans are not going to flock to the resurrected Rams in LA, or anybody else, other than Southern Cal, play in the Coliseum. They didn't even sell the place out for two Super Bowls or the Olympic Games. Been there - done that - know what I am talking about - you don't.

    Will remind you again of what I have posted numerous times. When a shovel of dirt is turned in Carson or Inglewood, California beginning construction on a new football stadium, and the NFL owners have voted a team to fill the LA territory, you can come back in here with your 7th grade mentality, and post your crowing success.

    Meanwhile, don't bother us with impact studies; council meetings and agreements; no contract's signed (as far as I know); no ticket office set up for any of the three teams, particularly the Ram's in Inglewood or on Wilshire Blvd., in Downtown LA for advanced season ticket sales; no signed contracts for security, food service, cleaning and janitorial service (the latter three usually contracted out on 5-year basis); no police master plan for traffic and stadium control; no FBI - Homeland Security anti-terrorism plan in effect; well........since none of that has happened, or you haven't produced any evidence, just your high opinion of yourself, THAN you can come back and crow.

    Meanwhile, the National Football League has allowed the Los Angeles territory to remain vacant for 20-years - a long-long time to carry a torch for a rather unsuccessful team. Could be half of their former existing fan base has already passed away, and with no team to pass dad's loyalties to, other than the Cowboys, a Ram return? Not exciting anybody who counts.

    Do you have proof that the Carson location has been rejected by the city and the National Football League, because construction goes on overtop landfills and waste dumps in America all the time. Homes in Niagara Falls, N.Y. were rebuilt over the Love Canal location, surprised nobody has built on Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania yet. Candlestick Park in San Francisco was built on reclaimed land from the sea (BTW one drives South to Los Angeles from Oakland, not north).

    Do you have construction underway in Inglewood, California, don't mention how much everybody likes it, tell me Halliburton; Noel Leslie Construction, or perhaps even the Army Corps of Engineers is on it. Has construction started, because if it hasn't, everything you keep crowing about like a 7th grader in here, is worthless, wishful thinking. If you build it, they will come. If you don't build it, and they haven't in 20-years, they won't come. If they do come - and you think St.Louis isn't supporting their team now - wait until Kronke puts a crummy team into the Los Angeles Coliseum, essentially a huge high school football field, with no seating other than bench-type, no suites, no method to make money, even if successful. Again, Been there - Done that - the place sucks, but if you are bringing a team in on a hope and a prayer, which is what you are posting about - well - the team you are talking about also sucks - perfect formula for success.

    So - my mindless child - I am done with you, and the Rams story - put me back on ignore - nothing you write is worth reading, or watching, because you have no idea how the NFL works; sports business works; and certainly don't know, or understand Los Angeles sports mentality. It's your bedtime - you can crow when the sun comes up, and your precious unheralded Rams are safely located in the City Of The Angels - because they will need angelic intervention out there to succeed................
     
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    back to whine and cry in defeat I see.Hear,let me give you this rag to wipe the egg off your face.:roflol:

    Not only were you living in a fantasyland as those two videos of rams games in LA at home where the stadiums were packed to the max that they dont have a strong passionate fans there and i debunked your fantasy you had as well months ago that the rams going to LA was a pipe dream,now you can only whine and cry in defeat since i prove how you have been clueless with your bible length ramblings on this thread.

    rams and chargers are going to inglewood,deal with it charlie.as i said before,sure am glad you are not my lawyer,the way you dismiss everything and wont watch videos or read links and only see what you WANT to see,you would lose every case in the world for me.

    here is the crying towel to cry in defeat and wipe the egg off your face.:roflol:

    I have seen MULTIPLE reports TODAY that the owners are in favor of the inglewood project having the charger AND the Rams in inglewood next year.

    Just now on NFL Network: Reporting that LA Committee just met privately with Spanos and Davis to try to dissolve their partnership so one of them (i.e. Chargers) can join the Inglewood ticket with the Rams, and that the owners want to get this done tonight.

    NFL Networks IAN RAPOPORT reporting Inglewood site will be approved. Rams to LA and Chargers conditional to move after SD public vote.


    herkdriver,PLEASE come back,i like discussing with you about this because YOU can accept FACTS the Rams are as good as gone by tomorrow which i commend you for because most people i know in st louis are not like you,they are in denial mode like someone else on here and just like him,cannot accept it that they are as good as gone,st louis people think with their hearts and not with their head.

    You though are one of the rare people in st louis who doesnt do that though and thats a refreashing change because i never come across people in st louis for the most part that can accept it.
     
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    since someone here said in his ramblings once that the rams going back to LA was nothing but a pipe dream despite the mountains of evidence i showed that had overwhelming proof they WERE going back that people with logic and common sense knew was true, this someone here indeed has to wipe the egg off their face and get the crying towel out as well AGAIN.even the people in st louis like herkdriver are no longer in denial the rams are in LA this year.:roflol:

    this was posted at the los angeles rams message board i post at from a rams fan in st louis.-

    As a St. Louis Rams fan, congrats on getting the Rams back. My only suggestions are to keep showing up to the games and find a way to get rid of that owner. Worst owner in all of sports and the Rams will find it very hard to win with him at the helm.

    too bad someone here has NEVER been able to accept it that the rams are in LA this year.:roflol::roll:
     
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    now just WHAT was it someone here kept babbling on to me about forever that the rams were not coming back to LA?that it was just a pipe dream despite the mountains of evidence that proved they were out the door?:roflol:

    never gets old humiliating someone and embarrassing them with their ramblings in their biased view on the rams.:roflol:

    http://www.profootballrumors.com/rams-to-move-to-los-angeles/
     
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    It's all about stadiums. Unless a city can put up the funds to put up a palace, the NFL owners don't want it.
    Congrats to Los Angeles getting the Rams back. Maybe the owner will actually put a decent product on the field for the fans. Other than a couple three good years the Rams were consistently a bad team while they were in St. Louis. You can't blame the fans for that.
     
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    So, after over 20-years of ignoring the second largest population and advertising market, and the entertainment and television hub of the United States, the NFL has finally, hastily, sent the Rams from St.Louis out to Los Angeles, condemned them to 3-possible years playing in a stadium ten times worse than the one they occupied in Missouri, with a doormat team, and expect the market and fan reaction to be enthusiastic on the West Coast? It never was enthusiastic with the original Rams, but, of the three teams that were vying for a shot at the market, the Oakland Raiders, a club that is upcoming and will be a force in a few years, plays in the best stadium of all three teams.

    Now we get to wait two days, to see if the San Diego Chargers, after 50-years in America's most beautiful city, will decide to join the Rams in the Coliseum, with an owner who has repeatedly said he would never deal with Ram owner Kronke? Soooo - Los Angeles gets two low level, last place clubs, possibly joining together to play in an neighborhood and stadium most people won't drive through at night, let alone attend a football game. Heck - hasty? The NFL could have given Los Angeles two expansion teams spread out over a couple of years, and ended with successful, competitive clubs right now, if they had moved in 1999-2000, or before they started letting every team in the league decide to switch, and abandon their fans.

    Sorry St.Louis, the NFL gave you the high-hard one for the second time, third in professional sports if you count them losing the the old NBA's St.Louis Hawks to Atlanta. Good thing NFL owners have deep pockets - playing in the Los Angeles Coliseum, they are sure going to need em. At least I get to see the Buffalo Bills play in Los Angeles again - about the only bright light at the end of a badly put together deal.........
     
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    Yep its Official, the Rams will move back to L.A......of course they will also be sharing the new stadium with San Diego. (unless they opt out) Then the Raiders will get the chance.

    Looks like Missouri is out of Pro Football Team. That will hurt with the revenue, huh?
     

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