Anyone going to get an XBox One?

Call of Duty's entire game style revolves around online multiplayer. Why even buy it if you only want offline play?

 

Because the single player portion of CoD is the best FPS on the market. I been playing CoD well before it became primarily a multiplayer game.

 

i never go online to play, never have never will if that becomes a daily requirement i'll never play again...single player only or with whoever is sitting beside me, wyly jr....

 

I can't help but think that Microsoft is actively trying to get people to buy the PS4. I know that makes no sense, but why oh why would they do the things they've done, in today's world, where the reaction they got was exactly what you would expect.

Windows 8 and now this. The only explanation is that some rogue employee has been putting LSD in the coffee there for the last two years, and now the suits and geeks there have no idea what is real and what isn't. Sounds ridiculous, right? Not as ridiculous as paying a fee to play a game you already bought just because you're playing it on a different console.

 

Do you understand why the PS4 is not backwards compatible? The PS3's architecture is so radically different that it made developing for the console a pain in the ass, which is why only first-party publishers could actually make full use of it's on-paper hardware superiority and only now with games like The Last of Us are we actually seeing games that are radically beyond what the Xbox 360 can produce. The PS4 opted for the newest version of the x86, the x86-64. Trying to make the PS4 backwards compatible would either mean programming games without the capability to get the full potential of the hardware OR bolting a $300 PS3 onto the PS4. The Xbox One is in a similar predicament, in that the One uses and AMD x86 architecture instead of IBM tri-core Xenon architecture like in the 360, this is where things fall apart however because Sony has a much better reason for switching out architecture. One interesting thing to note however is that the X1 also uses the x86-64, the direct descendant of the x86 in the Xbox original; what this means is that it would be trivial for Microsoft to develop some software to run original Xbox games on your Xbox One.

 

The funny thing is that Microsoft at E3 had some crashes at E3, turns out that they were running their demos on Windows 7 with high-end water-cooled PCs using NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan graphics cards; two major things: one apparently even microsoft's developers don't like Windows 8 and two AMD is going to be pissed because their hardware is going to be going into the Xbox One but MS is showing the X1's games off on their competition's hardware. Whereas the PS4 games were running on actual PS4 devkits.

What does this mean: The graphics and performance you saw at E3 demos of PS4 games is what you can expect for the PS4 games with some exceptions like the hiccups had during Sony's demos of Destiny and Assassin's Creed 5, the Xbox One games are unlikely to look nearly as good as demonstrated.

 

I am sure both Sony and Microsoft will end up releasing remake versions of many of their big games from older systems on the newer ones.

 

Of course they will, Sony has already stated that GaiKai cloud services will allow streaming of PS1, 2, and 3 games, but that's irrelevant to your argument which was "SONY IZ doing it 2". Sony had a legitimate reason to switch architecture, because the custom architecture made programming difficult and didn't allow them to give their customers the most bang for their buck. Microsoft did not have that good of a reason to switch to x86-64 from the Xenon, though now that they have done so they have no reason why I shouldn't be able to pop my physical discs of Knights of the Old Republic or Fable 1 into the tray and go.

 

May I highly suggest the STALKER series and the Metro games. Make sure to grab some of the mods for the STALKER games as they add new graphics and monsters, weapons etc. after you complete the first playthrough.

 

Yup, have played both of those. The new Metro Last Light was absolutely amazing. The last game I had played with such an amazing atmosphere was Half-Life 2.

 

Is the X86-64 from a different company, or the same? Cause they might have just gotten a better deal.

And you do realize that Sony's streaming service will cost money right? And that they also are charging a huge fee for every used game you buy in order for it to be played on the PS4.

 

Besides the terminal self-inflicted gunshot wound Microsoft caused upon itself, who'd want another spy device in their home?

 

They may have gotten a better deal but they forgot about acting in the interest of their customers. Sony's reason is more legitimate than just "MOAR PROFITZ", their console has superior hardware and they want their developers to be able to exploit that to the benefit of their customers entertainment. Additionally that better deal didn't stop them from using the competition's graphics cards at E3.

And your point is what? The alternative is bolting a PS3 on top, doubling it's size and pushing the price up to $600-700.

Why are you lying? Sony specifically announced at their E3 conference that there would be no restrictions on used games. There were rumors that their might be some but they saw what happened to Microsoft after they announced that there would be.

 

They're different. The Xbox 360 CPU is an IBM PowerPC chip. The Xbox One CPU is an AMD x64 chip.

It's possible, but I'm guessing it has more to do with the fact the x86/x64 architecture is much more common and developers have a lot more experience with it. Which is exactly why Sony is also moving to the same architecture with the PS4 - it's easier to work with.

Yep, most likely.

False. No fee charged for playing used games.

 

I have never understood why some computer companies insist on giving the public the worst deals imaginable. It's like they come along with "All of our games will cost a thousand dollars at first and then we will charge you $10 more each time you play it. All of our games will be useless after a year and the new ones will cost twice as much. All our games will be available only from us and have all the excitement of Pong hooked with the taste of Custer's Revenge. The machine will also be equipped with surveillance equipment that is hooked to Google, the IRS and al-Qaeda."

" OTOH the Graphics are lousy, the AI stinks and it will probably break in 30 days, how many can I put you down for?"

It reminds me of the Bob and Ray routine where Bob was trying to sell a really (*)(*)(*)(*)ty computer for 10 million dollars. "I know it's going to be extremely difficult to make a sale but all I need is one."

 

Reposting from the other thread for you consumers to be well-informed:

 

Not necessarily. The X1 has a eSRAM linked to it's GPU that convolutes programming for the system and also makes it run much hotter. It's also being reported that MS is having yield issues with the X1's eSRAM.

 

Re-post from the other Xbox One thread...

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Here's yet another strike against Microsoft and the Xbox One...

Microsoft is ditching the Xbox Live Arcade and the indie games section of the marketplace. This effectively eliminates all indie games, which over the past few years, have been some of the most fun. All indie developers will now need to get a publisher, and thus pay them a large chunk of the income, in order to get their games onto the Xbox One.

http://www.develop-online.net/news/44276/No-self-publishing-for-indies-on-Xbox-One

The PS4, of course, does not have this anti-indie policy and will still allow self-publishing. Several prominent indie devs have already publicly stated that their next-gen games will now only be coming out on the PS4.

 

it appears they got the message from gamers everywhere, MS humbled by the backlash to it's arrogant approach ...it's quite the turn around and a lesson for consumers everywhere...consumers are in charge, we only need to stick together with our combined financial strength, it's the little guys that power the economy not the corporations...