Anyone Have An Experience With Covid

Oh FFS and bollocks. Firstly, if you believe Covid was a fraud — Prove it. And exactly how and why was it a fraud?

What about the rest of the world? Did the whole world get together and decide to abuse their populations to cause economic ruination and so forth.

That comment about dying with covid is so ridiculous. If somebody who has diabetes and is otherwise is healthy with their diabetes well under control contracts covid and their lungs fill up with infection from the virus and they can no longer breathe and have to be ventilated and then die because the body can’t fight off the infection. What did they die of???? Pneumonia directly caused by the coronavirus. That’s what. What condition made them vulnerable — the diabetes. It’s that simple, yet you covid deniers can’t seem to understand that.

So you have had it twice and it was like a mild flu. Do you not get that for most people it was mild or even non-symptomatic. So does that mean people didn’t die from it because you didn’t die from it? Try to fathom that 1 percent of the population which amounts to over 7 million people died. I guess they just don’t matter because it was just like a mild flu to you. And then there is the huge number of people who experience covid as a mild flu and now are having ongoing post-covid symptoms of memory problems, heart issues, neurological issues, joint pain just to name a few.

Of course people talked about deaths from covid rather than other things. Do you not get why? Because a new virus started to spread around the world killing people. The cause of other deaths from 2019 were still tracked and paid attention to. People have been dying from Cancer, AIDS, heart disease, etc for years — not newsworthy every day. Covid was newsworthy, a pandemic is newsworthy.

When you call covid a fraud you are directly insulting the families who had loved ones die of covid. It wasn’t just a flu virus to them. How exactly did over 7 million die from a fraud. Please entertain us with more of you inanity.

 

The blind sheep supported the government abuse of power because they were told to by the abusers. They’re still buying into it.

 

Seven million people didn’t die from it. They died from other illnesses, but also contracted COVID on their death bed.

 

~ " You can fool some of the people all of the time ... "

 

The subject of this post has gone to hell in a handbasket.

 

That is not true. Most people who were vulnerable to covid were living with health conditions which made them more vulnerable to developing severe symptoms of covid. So what you are trying to claim is that everybody who died from covid was already dying from something else and just happened to be infected with covid on their death bed. That is horseshit.

I will try to dumb it down for you so you can understand how covid affected people and caused their deaths.

On death certificates there serious complications listed that were directly caused by the covid virus — respiratory failure, pneumonia, ARDs AS WELL as pre-existing conditions that increase the risk of severe illness from Covid-19 like diabetes, hypertension and obesity.

Back in 2020, a bunch of idiots who obviously have received their diploma from the college of TicToc totally misunderstood a statement relating to Covid deaths. The statement was that, in terms of death certificates, 94% of the deaths of people who had covid also had other conditions listed. Covid by itself was cause of death for the other 6%.

The 94% of people had co-morbid conditions like diabetes, hypertension or obesity which contributed to them having a higher risk of getting seriously ill and dying from covid. The other 6% had no known underlying health problems.

The people with these underlying health conditions were not near close to death — hypertension is controlled with meds, as is diabetes. How many fat people to you see walking around living their lives. The point is that if these people had not gotten covid they would still be alive.

Think about somebody who comes into the hospital dying due to a gunshot wound. The death certificate might list the gunshot wound, blood loss, and liver laceration as causes of death with homelessness as a contributing factor. For someone, who died of Covid-19, the death certificate might read Covid-19, pneumonia, and ARDS as causes of death with diabetes and obesity as contributing factors. In both these cases, without the two triggers — a gunshot wound and covid-19 infection, both of these people would have lived. In the first case, the gunshot wound caused the blood loss and liver laceration. In the second case, the covid-19 caused the pneumonia and ARDS. The first patient didn’t die as a result of being homeless it just contributed to being in a violent setting. The second patient did not die from diabetes or obesity.

I don’t know why you have not make asinine conclusions related to deaths from covid. I know it goes along with your ridiculous belief covid was a fraud. What is a fraud are your statements about covid.

The blind sheep are those who can simply believe misinformation without checking the sources without applying one bit of critical thinking to the issue of covid. You know it is possible to totally disregard everything that the US government said about covid and go look at unbiased research, at how viruses affect people, how the immune system is negatively affected by health conditions and so forth. It’s unfortunate you so blindly follow the obvious misinformation posted about covid.

Where is your proof that covid was a fraud? Where is your proof that people didn’t die as a result of being infected with covid? If you are going to make such statements at least back them up with research or some kind of proof.

 

With the easily duped, dying with COVID was always dying from COVID

 

Can you clarify that statement? As written, it’s incorrect on a couple levels.

 

That is not true. In the USA, when COVID-19 is reported as a cause of death on the death certificate, it is coded and counted as a death due to COVID-19. COVID-19 should not be reported on the death certificate if it did not cause or contribute to the death.

If anyone has been duped. It’s you.

 

The vaccine may have saved your life. I wouldn't be so quick to eschew a booster. A booster after an infection even improves your protection.

Take your chances? When we're 82, most of us don't or won't have a lot of good years left. It's good to get out.

 

Huh? The Spanish Flu was caused by what is now a known pathogen. It killed people far from the fighting.

 

I really wonder if the vaccine caused your lady friend's cancer.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines-people-with-cancer

 

You might consider wearing an N100 respirator in high risk settings like stores, transit, etc.

 

Social distancing, vaccination and high quality PPE (N100 respirators) for congregate settings--mix and match to taste.

Social distancing can make a huge difference. Measures undertaken in the British Columbia Island Health region in Canada that serves 765,000 people and includes a number of urban areas resulted in long stretches of less than a handful of daily covid cases in 2020. When those measures were lifted, cases shot up. It was strange to have been there in 2020 and see people mingling like covid didn't exist.

 

Please. We've heard it before.

 

Enjoy youth--it doesn't last.

 

Yes, they do have a positive impact on outcomes.





This is for Canada where the unvaccinated 15% of those over age five did 47% of the dying.

 

Or sheep being herded by "collie" rightwing newscasters into believing MAGA propaganda.

 

And that's all we'll ever do is Wonder because no one in the system seems remotely interested in finding the answer to that question.

All I know is she was perfectly fine until she took the second shot and immediately displayed symptoms of a reaction to it.

 

What is it that you call MAGA propaganda ? Controlling the border, low inflation, cheap gasoline and diesel? Maybe it's a well defined foreign policy? These are what I saw as plusses for trump and to my perception they are strong negatives to Biden and his left.

 

MAGA types have been lied to thousands of times by Trump himself. They haven't figured it out yet.

How do you square this with your French study...?

"Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), also known by its trade name Plaquenil®, has been used for over 50 years as a treatment for malaria, systemic lupus erythematosus, and rheumatoid arthritis. As the COVID-19 pandemic emerged in the United States and globally in early 2020, HCQ began to garner attention as a potential treatment and as prophylaxis against COVID-19. Preliminary data indicated that HCQ as well as chloroquine (CQ) possessed in vitro antiviral activity against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). Early clinical data from China and France reported that HCQ and CQ were associated with viral load reduction and clinical improvement in patients with COVID-19 compared to control groups; however, an overwhelming number of randomized controlled trials, meta-analyses, and systematic reviews have since concluded that HCQ used alone, or in combination with azithromycin (AZ), provides no mortality or time-to-recovery benefit in hospitalized patients with COVID-19. Additionally, these same trials reported adverse events including cardiac, neuropsychiatric, hematologic, and hepatobiliary manifestations in patients with COVID-19 whom had been treated with HCQ. This review article summarizes the available data pertaining to the adverse events associated with HCQ use, alone or in combination with azithromycin, in patients with COVID-19 in order to fully assess the risk versus benefit of treating COVID-19 patients with these agents. The results of this review lead us to conclude that the risks of adverse events associated with HCQ use (with or without AZ) outweigh the potential clinical benefits and thus recommend against its use in the treatment or prevention of COVID-19."​

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8455223/

How about this...?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...hloroquine-stance-hcq-fact-check/70980831007/

 

Trump never controlled the border. He never did much to round up the more than half of illegals here who simply overstayed a visa, nor did he go after employers hiring illegals--including himself.

Inflation is a worldwide phenomenon.

Gasoline was going up in Trump's last year.

If it was "well defined," what was it toward Russia and China? You should be able to summarize it,

Did you forget economic growth? Oh, wait--it was about the same in his first three years as it was in Obama's last three.

 

This also from Canada...





The completely unvaccinated 15% of Canadians over five years did 47% of the dying.

 

Matthew 7:3-5:

“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”​

 

Trying nonsense on someone else? (Didn't work on @yardmeat, either.)