Arctic sea ice maximum at record low for third straight year

I would suggest that you apply some basic mathematics thinking before posting your proposals.
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/oceanwater.html

According to the U.S. Geological Survey, there are over 332,519,000 cubic miles of water on the planet. A cubic mile is the volume of a cube measuring one mile on each side. Of this vast volume of water, NOAA's National Geophysical Data Center estimates that 321,003,271 cubic miles is in the ocean.
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Then consider the cost of desalination.
As of June 2012, the cost for the desalinated water had risen to $2,329 per acre-foot.
There are ~2,300,000,000 acres in the Sahara.
To dump one foot of water into the Sahara would cost over $5 Trillion.
This would have to be done many times every year.

The net effect on the oceanic sea levels would be negligible.

 

none of that came from the article i linked

 

Good figures.... thank you.... but this must be compared with the cost of building sea walls, dikes levees....... and moving residents of low lying towns and cities in the event of the collapse of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the land based Greenland Ice Pack.

Large scale desalination of ocean water is cheaper.........

Israel did this to boost their agricultural sector...... I am not talking about doing this just to take water out of one place to put it somewhere else......

Besides.... the statistics on temperatures in Israel since 1950 indicate that Carl Cantrell's theory may well be valid.......

What if a shift in this direction decreased hostilities in the Middle East by twenty percent?

How many billions would that save us?

The Sahara Forest Project technology was donated by Israel to Norway.... so that Norwegian scientists and ambassadors could share it with Jordan, Qatar and Tunisia.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rleans-and-florida-from-rising-oceans.300460/

The Sahara Forest Project...and saving New Orleans and Florida from rising oceans!

 

You are correct, it did not come directly from the linked article. It came from a link in the article you specifically referred to. I should have been more precise.

This was the link you posted.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/090731-green-sahara.html

At the bottom of your article was...
(See a map of global warming's impacts.)
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/global-warming-effects/
It was from this that I posted.


Thinking back, I went to your link. Read the article, Followed the link, Read that article and posted from it. Again, I should have been more precise.

 

You missed the part I highlighted this time.

The net effect on the oceanic sea levels would be negligible.

 

Nearly 1/4 more ice than in 2012

 

most of that seems quite, well how shall I put it, boring and normal.

Butterflies and polar bears? "thousands" of peruvians will be thirsty 83 years from now?

Heck, the only thing that seems serious is the expected sea level rise and honestly 7 inches isn't very scary knowing that we'll have 4 generations to figure out how to increase our seawalls in area's where its applicable.

Too many "if's" and "likely's" and "coulds" to be considered a "sure thing" not to mention the potential impact of a couple of good sized volcanic eruptions.

You're going to have to come up with a list that is a tad more terrifying.

 

My response was to a poster who was talking about the benefits of climate change 12,000 years from now.

 

Seems that all that money the oil industry is spending on misinformation lobbying is paying off.

 

There were Herbivore Dinosaurs and the vegetation to support them between 400 to 1200 miles from the North Pole about 60 Million years ago. The fossilized remains of both don't lie. Something cause the Earth to warm to that extent, man didn't exist and the fossils for oil were still walking around and growing from the ground. So what caused the Earth to warm that much? We know through indisputable fact that there were Herbivore Dinosaurs and the vegetation to support them between 400 to 1200 miles from the North Pole about 60 Million years ago. Can you prove with indisputable facts that the same process isn't happening again and nothing we can do will matter anyway.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/arcticdino/about.html

 

there is still Arctic sea ice? I thought Gore promised the Arctic would be ice free years ago

 

The climate has always changed and likely is now. Unfortunately Al Gore's dishonesty and exaggeration in "An Inconvenient Truth"
made it difficult for the climate to be discussed rationally.

 

Arctic sea ice is declining. Personally, I am happy that Gore overestimated the extent. Aren't you?
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

On March 7, 2017, Arctic sea ice likely reached its maximum extent for the year, at 14.42 million square kilometers (5.57 million square miles), the lowest in the 38-year satellite record.

 

OK, so let me get this straight. You are not a climate change denier? You believe that change is occurring, but that burning of fossil fuels is not the culprit? As such, you defend the fossil fuel, big money lobbying efforts? If truth is on their side, why are they spending so much money?

BTW, 60 million years ago, when this happened, did it occur over a period of 50 years? Did the fossils suddenly stop appearing in those areas in a 50-year timeframe?

 

What they're spending pales in comparison to what the Government is spending to promote it, why are they spending so much money?

The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever

Global warming fanatics manipulate the facts to rescue a scam

Scientists Launch Investigation into Climate Data “Adjustments”

there's big BIG money for the taking from the Government's spending promoting Global Warming. The earth will warm and cool as it has done for the last 4 Billion years. Man as the Dinosaurs will have to move further North and South to escape the heat, just as the Dinosaurs did. They will likely become extinct as the Dinosaurs did too. They had a good run, ruling the earth between some 150 million and 70 million years ago. For all those who believe we can slow or stop the warming and cooling cycles of the earth, your getting taken in by snake oil salesmen.

 

Concerned? Send a letter to Brazil and tell'm to quit destroying the rain forest.

 

There is so much wrong with this post, it's hard to know where to start. You talked earlier about a prehistoric warming period, as if to say that this is natural and we're having repeat of that. I asked about the duration of said warming period, and you offered nothing. Just this rant. I don't think you know what you believe, other than the rhetoric from the heavily financed oil lobby. The ALT Right articles you posted are just a product of this oil lobby.

And where's this "big money" that those LEFT wackos are getting for promoting this false climate change data? There's nothing in your links about this "big money". You really believe that somebody is making "big money", compared to the deep-pocket spending of the misinformation oil lobby?

 

LOL. So dumb that a species could know anything about climate after arising from the mud a couple thousand years ago. I guess the Romans were all living in mud! Thats why I always ignore the weatherman. Also such a species couldn't set foot on the moon. What a big hoax! And making the internet? Not true!

 

Sea levels are rising at 3 mm per year which isn't very much. Thats about an inch per decade. The problem is if the greenland ice sheets or the arctic ice sheets collapse. if the greenland ice sheets collapse sea levels will rise 20 feet. We have seen a dramatic decrease in arctic ice sheet volume but scientists don't know how much future warming it will take to collapse them and thats the biggest and the most unknown variable here. And yes they have been melting pretty rapidly since 2000.

 

Yes there is. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been funneled to the DoE guys at virtually all the National Science Labs and academia. They are expected to work on and solve global warming. If they fail, the money dries up along with their jobs. You have no clue. Oak Ridge National Lab has a HUGE percentage of its budget on Global Warming, it's going away under Trump. They have produced NOTHING.

 

but we need global warming science jobs to stimulate the economy.

 

No, no motive at all. It just so happens that every political issue along with it's "solution" has practically become like a religion or our liberal friends when it comes to "climate change" and the fantasy that we mortal being can do a damn thing about it.

 

"Jobs" that are funded by tax payers are one step up from welfare that don't provide a good or service that anyone would willingly pay for with their own money.

 

House boats, invest in house boats......