Are Americans going kill crazy?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Aleksander Ulyanov, May 26, 2014.

  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I think so. I KNOW this guy in Santa Barbra was and more and more people are going that way.

    Why do we think that people can't just snap and start killing others for no reason when they are doing it all the time?

    And really, what do we expect when we have a powerful organization that is totally devoted to making it easy for anyone to do so? A group of powerful and rich businesses making money by constantly telling people it's manly and proper to be a psychopathic murderer, that we must walk around armed to the teeth all the time and be always ready to defend ourselves with deadly force regardless of the consequences, even to ourselves.

    When I was growing up the NRA was all about gun SAFETY. Now they're all about everyone being armed. Even the insane and the criminal. Even children

    I think the gun manufacturers and their stooges in the NRA leadership (not the rank and file) should all be arrested for murder. These people have blood on their hands
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    how come everyone gets angry about guns and violence only when a bunch of white people get blown away?

    this kind of thing happens every day in minority communities. its nothing special.
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are just parroting the liberal mantra. Gun violence is actually down but you could not tell by the liberal media's attention to it.

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    Very true.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean like they have been doing since before guns were invented? It's not the gun silly sheesh :roll:

    You mean like the rich and powerful antigun lobby telling you what to think and do?

    Guess I missed the part where the NRA wanted to arm everyone...or the insane....or the criminal...or even children. You have something other than antigun talking points to back that up?

    No I think the antigun crowd should be arrested for murder for all the gun free killing zones they promote. The NRA wants good guys with guns...Cops or citizens to actually stop bad guys with guns. Emotional reactions are all the antigunners have eh?
     
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    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    The "per capita" murder rate is at, or very near, an all time low since the country was formed. Your fears are unfounded.
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Aren't you kind of making my point for me

    Silly Rambo reactions are all the pro-gunners have. If you had your way we'd be dodging bullets everytime we walked out the door. Guns should be limited to trained and monitored Law Enforcment professionals when in use for Law Enforcement. Why do you find that unreasonable?

    I don't think anyone can deny that these kind of mass murders are happening more often. I can avoid most types of murder situations by the simple exercise of common sense but no one can practically defend against a lone nut who strikes without warning and from any distance. Not even cops can do that very well, and you have been watching too many movies if you think the average citizen can
     
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    No.

    In a country of 300 million, with just as many firearms, shootings are bound to happen. That's the cost of liberty. You give individuals power - some of them use that power for malicious purposes. (*)(*)(*)(*) happens.

    The NRA is a special interest group with disproportionate influence, so it's fair to criticize it - but this is a symptom of government centralization of power. State and industry collude for the benefit of both. But I don't think this means gun liberty is undesirable. On the contrary, the NRA has little to do with it. These ideas have been around since before the NRA, they'll continue long after it's dead and gone.
     
  8. waltky

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    Aleks wrote: Are Americans going kill crazy?

    Granny eyein' ya all suspicious like...
    :grandma:
    ... an' wantin' to know if you is one o' dem Russkies...

    ... dat's been beatin' up on dem poor Ukrainian people?...

    ... whilst raisin' her Mossburg 12 ga.
     
  9. SMDBill

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    Is it with statistics or just opinion that you suggest things like this are increasing? If you have the supporting data from which you derived your conclusion, please share.

    It was a terrible tragedy, no doubt about it. But you failed to mention the deaths he caused by knife, hammer, machete or whatever. Any particular reason for the omission besides it not fitting the gun bashing?
    Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...to-murder-house-mates-in-killing-chamber.html
     
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    You mean like the SS and Gestapo?
     
  11. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think that is an overrated response created by the emotional anti gunners. The proof is in the pudding eh? We have more guns, more states with CCH laws, expanding gun rights and guess what dodging bullets has not become an epidemic, imagine that. I find that law enforcement being the only ones with guns to be unreasonable because when seconds count the cops are minutes away and I can't carry a cop strapped on my hip. I shouldn't need to wait for them to show up and draw the chalk outline around my defenseless dead body.
     
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    The technology in general and the internet in particular.


    Then we should be abolishing the first amendment so people can't be telling people stuff

    Okay.

    I feel the same way about those who support net neutrality. If the government is unwilling to regulate content, then ISP's should be able to to help rid the world of weaker minds having access to that which the stronger minds can tolerate.
     
  13. Hoosier8

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    When I was growing up there were no gun grabbers so having the NRA step in and fight to protect our rights is a direct result of that. You wish to arrest people for protecting our rights. I get it. It is called tyranny.
     
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    Why attack just the guns and the NRA?


    Rogers used a knife to stab his first 3 victims to death. The cops never stated what brand of knife was used, and where he bought it. He also used his BMW to run over two bicyclists and drive to the crime scenes. Where did he buy this murder weapon?

    Finally, Rogers had an extensive psychiatric history. So, who were all the professionals in the psychiatric community who failed to treat him, and what were their failed methods and medications?

    Also, who were the police officers that did not investigate Rogers properly on their last visit and uncover his criminal planning?

    So, do you think the primary gatekeepers of the mentally ill, the psychiatric doctors and therapists bear ANY responisibility for obvious malpractice in the cases of Rogers, Holmes, Lanza and all the other psychopaths let free to kill the masses?

    Why hasn't a single one of these incompetents been sued or brought before their licensing boards for hearings?
     
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    Did you see the video this nut job posted before going on his killing spree? Pissed off because he's been rejected by women at college and is still a virgin at the tender age of 22. Sorry, but in this day and age, a college student who has the resources (even if they are mommy and daddy's resources) to own, operate, and maintain a BMW only needs to have social skills slightly elevated from those of an amoeba to get laid frequently. The fact that he wasn't doing so says more about the creeper vibe he no doubt displayed everywhere he went than anything else.
     
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    Americans going kill crazy.... I read yesterday about Jews killed in Belgium. The guy used only 2 bullets, and killed 4 people. How could that happen at all in Belgium??????
    This kid in Queerlyfornia did NOT commit a "mass shooting". By definition, that would be 4 or more dead by shooting. If this kids' parents had given 5 minutes out of those 22 years to caring about this kids' social conditioning, this could not have happened.
    This is not the least bit about guns in America. This is about the dissolution of the American family, and the failure of parenting. It's about worship of wealth and status. It demonstrates that social sickness is present as much at the top of the money tree as it is at the bottom. It demonstrates that the values of this Country have been annihilated. Thank you very much, ******* agenda.
     
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    The leftist media has successfully brainwashed you. The media only shows you stories that they want you to see because it furthers their political agenda. People are shot every day by gang members. Do you see the faces of the perpetrators who committed these crimes? Nope, why not?
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    All of you who call me brainwashed should look in a mirror. You are impliedly defending the concept that we should arm the mentally ill and that is crazy to me.
     
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    You are. You're the one who thinks we should disarm everyone.
     
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    Considering the Federal Statistics show a drop in violent crime rate by 50% in the last 20 years. No...
     
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    Please show me one instance where the NRA or gun manufacturers say "it's manly and proper to be a psychopathic murderer." I love the strawmen you create. You're almost an artist....
     
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    If you have a plan that can keep the mentally ill from acquiring firearms, while allowing the law abiding citizen to defend themselves and not infringe on their rights, then we are all ears.....
     
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    Considering that he killed as many people with guns as he did knives, should the knife manufacturers be arrested too?
     
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    Problem is, that is the very type of incident that strict gun regulation would not impact much.
     

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