LOL. What one have to read. All palestinians are terrorists? Leave your bs and try to convince other. You know, it is like now I was going to say that all the people from the Basque country are terrorists because there is a terrorist organization ETA, so is needed to bomb the Basque country. Or say that everybody that is "abertxale" of the Basque Country is terrorist because ETA is "abertxale". Do you see the nonsenses of your argument? And about the union of the workers... is the pure true. The workers should go together because all them are in the same side and they would fight together for the same cause. But if you want to do an ad-hominem, then go on. I don't care.
And how many posts do I have to make and how many links do I have to put up before you bother reading them??? Come on, 3rd, deny the Khartoum Resolution!! What's the matter, 3rd, cat got your tongue?? Deny the 1969 Cairo agreement. Deny the Syrians backing out of the Isralei/Syrian peace talks in 2000. Isn't it funny that Israel gave back the Siani to Egypt for peace?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_for_peace Land for peace is an interpretation of UN Security Council Resolution 242 which has formed the basis of subsequent Arab-Israeli peace making. The name Land for Peace is derived from the wording of the resolution's first operative paragraph which affirms that peace should include the application of two principles; Withdrawal of Israeli forces (Giving Up Land), and Termination of all claims or states of belligerency (Making Peace). Since the resolution stipulates that both principles should apply they can be viewed jointly as giving up land for peace, referred to more concisely as 'land for peace'. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/43958 The fact is, the rising Islamist control over the Muslim nations has no intention of respecting treaties, or Israels right to exist. They are waiting for conflict, and then will blame it on Israel. Talks are doomed to failure. The Islamists want it that way. Land for Peace fails. Liberalism fails. Only a direct military posture that stands up against the rising threat will succeed. . . but the appeasers refuse to learn from history, and like Neville Chamberlain with Germany, Barack Obama and his fellow appeasers are positioning the world for a new world conflict.
Refugee populations are always a problem .. and about half of Jordan's population were forced out of Palestine in 1948 and 1967... Lebanon's demographic was also turned upside down by Zionist ambitions .. You remember.. The European Jews were refugees seeking sanctuary when they fled Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan September 1970 is known as the Black September in Arab history and sometimes is referred to as the "era of regrettable events." It was a month when Hashemite King Hussein of Jordan moved to quash the militancy of Palestinian organizations and restore his monarchy's rule over the country. The violence resulted in the deaths of thousands of people, the vast majority Palestinian. Armed conflict lasted until July 1971 with the expulsion of the Palestine Liberation Organisation and thousands of Palestinian fighters to Lebanon. http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/bravo/blacksept1970.htm Black September in Jordan 1970-1971 Within the space of two hours on September 6, PFLP gangs hijacked a TWA jet, a Swissair jet, and made an unsuccessful attempt to seize control of an El Al airplane. About two hours later, another PFLP group hijacked a Pan Am jet and forced the crew to fly to Beirut airport, where the airplane landed almost out of fuel. King Hussein viewed the hijackings as a direct threat to his authority in Jordan. In response, on September 16 he reaffirmed martial law and named Brigadier Muhammad Daud to head a cabinet composed of army officers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War The Lebanese Civil War was a multifaceted civil war in Lebanon. The war lasted from 1975 to 1990 and resulted in an estimated 150,000 to 230,000 civilian fatalities. Another one million people (a quarter of the population) were wounded, and today approximately 350,000 people remain displaced. There was also a mass exodus of almost one million people from Lebanon By 1975, the presence of a foreign armed force in the form of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) guerrillas, who exercised a veto on Lebanese politics, had a serious effect on Lebanon. The militarization of the Palestinian refugee population, with the arrival of the PLO guerrilla forces, sparked an arms race amongst the different Lebanese political factions. http://www.lebguide.com/lebanon/history/lebanon_history_civil_war.asp The Beginning of the War The spark that ignited the war occurred in Beirut on April 13, 1975, when gunmen killed four Phalangists during an attempt on Pierre Jumayyil's life. Perhaps believing the assassins to have been Palestinian, the Phalangists retaliated later that day by attacking a bus carrying Palestinian passengers across a Christian neighborhood, killing about twenty-six of the occupants. The next day fighting erupted in earnest, with Phalangists pitted against Palestinian militiamen (thought by some observers to be from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine). The confessional layout of Beirut's various quarters facilitated random killing. Most Beirutis stayed inside their homes during these early days of battle, and few imagined that the street fighting they were witnessing was the beginning of a war that was to devastate their city and divide the country Refugees were not the problem in either case, it was your beloved kill crazy "Palestinians".
No, most are NOT refugees. They hadn't been born at the time of the 48' war that your Arab buddies force on the Jews so if you want to blame someone just go to the nearest mirror. Oh, you want to talk about the 67' war??? Egypt, the West Bank, and Syria shouldn't have decided to attack Israel. Now, Marg, don't go giving me that old, "Israel attacked Egypt FIRST"", because we both know that on, ""May 27, 1967 Nasser cancels a planned Egyptian attack on Israel (Operation fajr - Dawn), planned for following day, after it became obvious that the Israelis knew about the plan."" So give that tired old saw up. The Jews never attacked Germany or Hitler now did they. But your Arab buddies have repeatedly attacked Israel. What the Arabs thought was a reason makes little to no difference, they repeatedly attacked Israel. And repeatedly got their collective butts kicked. And do you know whats funny??? Israel NEVER ONCE asked America for a soldier one. Nope, never. Unlike England or France, Israel never said, "Whens America going to get into this thing and send troops"!!
Actually, from everything I have read on the subject, they fled either because they were trying to get away from the Arab uprisings against Israel, or they had been told that the Jews would slaughter them. The vast majority of the refugees chose to leave Israel, mostly going to the land which was supposed to become Palestine. But since that land was already occupied by Egypt and Jordan (Gaza Strip and West Bank), the governments of those nations instead placed them into refugee camps. The expulsions came much later, after the Civil War ended, and after the start of the Arab-Israeli War. But the exodus was already well under way by that time.
You should stop reading those American Israeli history books. Most were forced out by Israeli military in the Arab-Israeli war.The land that was supposed to be Palestine is occupied by the Israeli,some of it was incorporated into the Israeli state and the Arabs who were there were forced to leave. I would be interested to know which books you have gleamed your information from.
Actually, I got a fair amount from the UN. http://www.unrwa.org/etemplate.php?id=86 Under UNRWA's operational definition, Palestine refugees are people whose normal place of residence was Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict. Notice the year that started, 1946. Israel was not even a nation at that point, so how could they expel anybody? And the fact that they are still in refugee camps, 65 years later is something altogether different. Could you imagine the US still keeping people in refugee camps from the 1975 Vietnam Boat Lift, or the 1980 Mariel Boat Lift? If we still had people from those migrations in refugee camps, the entire would would be screaming at the horrors. But the Arabs keep other Arabs in refugee camps for generations, and hardly anybody says anything. Of course, if you read the history of what Palestinians did to some of the nations they moved to after the diaspora that was posted in here earlier, you might see why some of them do still keep them locked up.
Is this supposed to be a real argument? It is a fact that Jewish terrorist/military forced hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from their land,even Israeli authors have admitted that much. So what books have you been reading?
Bull, they attacked a fledgling country, got their butts kicked and if it were Mexicans here in the U.S. they would STAY in their own country which by the way is Jordan
Of course he should, 3rd., and start reading your nonsense and the way you rewrite history. Sorry, Jack, isn't going to happen
What I have stated is correct as I said even Israeli historical authors say that happened. If you prefer the fictional zionist version of events then you are welcome to it but please keep it to yourself as most of us are interested in what actually happened,you know historical fact.
Well, that pretty much ends this for me. Whenever I hear somebody throwing around words like "Zionist". it pretty much tells me they have a closed mind and nothing said will make any difference whatsoever. This is why I do not debate with racists.
Calling people zionists is not racism in the slightest and could not be thought of as that unless you have been brainwashed. You failed to back up your argument yet again.I am still waiting for your evidence for your claim that wikileaks releases led to peoples deaths,your weak attempt at a reply to that consisted of no evidence whatsoever because you failed to even go through your links properly.Anyway you have presented nothing here and are obviously not interested in the true facts of events.Some Israeli historical authors are more interested in the truth than you are and the one with the closed mind here is you.
Different thread, different topic, nothing to do with this. And I did give examples, you simply refuse to accept them. That is not the same thing as not giving them.
You never gave any examples at all. You put up a link claiming that Assange had said people died,I read it and there was nothing in it. You put up another link of some guy killed in Afghanistan,it did not say his name was on the list and it did not confirm anything you said. You put up another link about Amnesty etc asking wikileaks to be more careful and put a bit about civilian deaths being up on the end of it to make it seem like the wikileaks release of documents had something to do with their deaths but what you failed to do was follow the timeline in your own link as it had nothing to do with wikileaks because those deaths happened before wikileaks even released any files.Pretty crap research on your part. I can see you just like to spout American government propaganda without backing it up and now you have bailed out of this argument as well because you cannot prove your point as you were wrong. You have the audacity to try and brand me a racist for using the word zionist,well zionists are not a race for starters so that craps on that argument.
Your ignorance is showing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing Menachem Begin, who later became the Israeli Prime Minister was leader of this group. I am suprised you do not know what the zionist movement is.
I know what it was, I am not ignorant. But when somebody considers everybody that lives in Israel or is Jewish to be "Zionist", then they are stereotyping, and 99.8% of the time Antisemtic racists. And you have to admit, this board is absolutely full of them. It seems that being Antisemitic is a PC form of racism.
Why don't you point out anyone on this board who has accused everyone in Israel of being zionists? You cannot as it never happened. You just make stuff up as you go along to get out of your failed arguments.
