Are the "Birthers" right? Was The Obama born in kenya?

The proof is out there and I do not know why people DON'T LOOK FOR THE TRUTH!

Read it people, you have an illegal President!

The first definition of citizen "on record" is found in the first line of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which states:
"Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States;"
http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/reconstruction/section4/section4_civrightsact1.html

That line was actually an amendment to the original Civil Rights Act and when the bill went to the House for a vote Rep John Bingham (future father of the 14th amendment) responded on record, to the amendment to the bill and said:

"I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of PARENTS NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANY FOREIGN SOVEREIGNTY is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN"
MIDDLE COLUMN 3RD PARAGRAPH:
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=071/llcg071.db&recNum=332

After the Act was passed, several Congressman were worried that the bill was unconstitutional because it wasn't amended to the Constitution, so John Bingham wrote the 14th amendment, to render the Civil Rights Act Constitutional. We know for a fact that the Civil Rights Act and the 14th amendment were synonymous in their intent by reading Senators Trumbull & Howard's words in the 14th amendment debates.

When the 14th amendment was introduced in the Senate, they also added a citizenship clause amendment to the bill, just like they did with the Civil Rights Act, which read:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
When others asked Senator Trumbull what "Subject to the jurisdiction thereof" meant he replied by saying:

"The provision is, that 'all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means 'subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.' What do we mean by 'complete jurisdiction thereof?' NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANYBODY ELSE. That is what it means."
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=073/llcg073.db&recNum=14

That right there proves that their intent, meant the SAME EXACT THING as the Civil Rights Act. Others try to say that the 14th amendment overrode the Civil Rights Act definition of citizen, but that is 100% wrong and to prove that, all you have to do is look at the revised statutes, which were adopted in March of 1877, 9 years AFTER the 14th amendment was adopted and the text CLEARLY says "WHO ARE CITIZENS" and then it quotes the exact words from the Civil Rights Act and EVEN lists the Civil Rights Act as it source!
http://books.google.com/books?id=kr...e&q=revised statutes 1992 citizenship&f=false

IT DOESN'T GET ANY MORE CLEAR THAN THAT! SOMEONE SHOW ME WHERE I AM WRONG!

 

Yes, he was born in Kenya and even if he wasn't, he's still not eligible because he is not a natural born citizen. This is the definition of citizen and Obama does NOT qualify because his father was subject to a foreign power:

http://books.google.com/books?id=kr...e&q=revised statutes 1992 citizenship&f=false

 

Still throwing temper tantrums I see? And still unable to even touch my review of Zullo. It has you so completely shaken up that you are melting down. It does suck to be you. All the bithers say so.

You keep forgetting that nobody cares what you think. Most of what you think turns out to be false.

Speaking of people you hallucinate are "losers"... Inauguration day is January 21st this year, because of the weekend. Will you be there to celebrate the President's reelection and start of his second term?

 

So Tracy... how'd that ol' Maryland Ballot Challenge work out?

 

From the only US Supreme Court decision that has ever been referenced as precedent regarding the definition of natural-born citizen by any subsequent US court:

US v. Wong Kim Ark (169 U.S. 649) 1898

 

And according to the 14th amendment, obama is a natural born citizen.

 

Odd isn't it that Chief Justice Roberts wasn't aware of this when he sword Barack Obama in as President?

 

Birthers.....lol....

 

he should have fallen on his sword. after that health care decision.

 

i am certainly not ashamed of my website WashingtoAmerica.Com frank. you know i'm a big ben franklin fan, poor richard's has always inspired me. i haven't had a chance to visit your website(s). but when i do, i hope that it's not just a cookie cutter "fill in the blanks" generic website chosen from model options a b or c like fogbow, anti birthers.com and "doctor goldcoins".

i've seen your hackery on scribed, but where is yor website, so we might have a look and review ?? before you try to smear my site, why don't you show everyone yours. or is it easier to just throw rocks from behind the wall.

i have enjoyed the process of growing a new concept with washingtonamerica.com it is a way for me to learn some new skills. while it maybe doesn't appeal to the to the cheap shot misery of the antibirthers, it's original, and i think it will grow into something good, not just meanness. people can decide for themselves.

i think washingtonamerica.com has more potential and room for growth, than the monochromatic hate sites of your "friends".

so show us all the website you created captain.

 

i'll wait till the movie comes out. lol i'm sure kate bigelow has a working screenplay all ready just waiting to be greenlighted. it will be glorious !!

 

And that tells us everything we need to know about your abysmally low standards for most things.

But since you asked... here are three websites that I created:

www.ghx.com/

www.cardinal.com

www.baxter.com

 

While a cute and rather morbid response, it fails to address the point.

The whackjobs who created the 'two citizen' parent theory and the "if his father was a Kenyan citizen" theory embrace each and every theory that results in Obama not being eligible.

The madness becomes apparent when they parse every claim with "and even if he was born in Hawaii he still isn't eligible because.....

Anyway- back on point.

Chief Justice Roberts has no legal obligation to swear in a the President- it is customary but not mandated. I find hilarious the idea that Birthers have that Roberts either just isn't as well informed about the Constitution as they are, or that he was forced somehow to adminster the oath.

Birthers lol .

 

seriously ?? as i said cookie cutter "fill in the blanks" and you did that really well. it's the same website three times.... don't quit your day job. oh, that is your day job... sorry... lol... however, i see you spent more time on the websites than you did on your annotated hit job.

sterile sites, very clinical though, they seem like a lot of fun. not.

you get sterling reviews on dr gold coins site though (no period after doctor).

"oh frank, your work is a masterpiece". "mr arduini is so gifted in every way". meh...

 

why would wong van ark be declared natural born if he never ran for president or vice ? where else do we even see natural born. the supreme court has never defined natural born have they (justice thomas) ? i'll bet obama turns out to be corrupt.

forced to administer the oath, i hadn't heard that one. sounds like a "conspiracy theory"...

anyway merry christmas all you obot gentlemen, you too frank. see you after the break.

 

Scott- why would the Supreme Court need to define what we all know?

I learned in Junior High School what a natural born citizen is.

What the Appellate Court in Indiana said about Wong v Kim and what the CRC report said just reflect what all Americans know- anyone born in the U.S. is a Natural Born Citizen except the children of diplomats.

And Merry Christmas to you Scott.

 

Once again, you demonstrate that you do not know the first thing about web design. None of those sites are "cookie cutter." But you wouldn't know that since... well.. you don't know much. One of them is for the 21st largest company in the country.

Your desperate pathos is simply sad.

It really sucks to be a birther. And birthers think it sucks to be you.

 

Because there is no other kind of born citizen.

All over the place. But Wong Kim Ark is where we find the definition.

Yes. They have.

And Wong Kim Ark is where they did.

 

oh frank, you're kind of cute when you're mad. i was only kidding, your websites are terrific, you should be very proud. and you do have some great tld names, you know what they say, you name it (.com) you own it. you should help the other antibirthers with their sites too.

i noticed this at wikipedia:

The natural-born-citizen clause has been mentioned in passing in several decisions of the United States Supreme Court and lower courts dealing with the question of eligibility for citizenship by birth, but the Supreme Court has never directly addressed the question of a specific presidential or vice-presidential candidate's eligibility as a natural-born citizen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause

i know, what does wikipedia know... maybe you could help them with their website too. now, in all fairness there are articles that agree with your premise: but i still think they may hear it someday.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d...dcfad2a6298f40&bpcl=40096503&biw=1572&bih=752

i've always considered, if there is no other kind of citizen, why is that clause in the constitution ? seems to me they thought it was pretty important, enough to put in article II.

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

It's great to be a birther ! anyone can join the fun !

[video=youtube;O7qEH-tKoXA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7qEH-tKoXA[/video]

i never get tired of this...

 

Why would you think that Scott? They have had dozens of opportunities out of the over one hundred Birther lawsuits to address it if they chose to- so why do you think they will 'someday'?

What are you talking about now Scott?

There are two types of citizen's mentioned in the Constitution- Natural Born citizen's and naturalized citizens. All are U.S. Citizen's but only one of the subsets is eligible for President.

And we all know this because we all learned this in school. It's no mystery to anyone but Birthers who somehow in 2008 'discovered' a new definition of Natural Born Citizen....at the same time they came up with a half dozen theories of why Obama must not be eligible and must not really have been elected.

 

Your reading comprehension has failed you. There is no other kind of born citizen. There is certainly another kind of citizen; naturalized. And the purpose of inserting the clause is to distinguish between naturalized citizens and natural born citizens.

 

aren't all citizens born ?, i mean not just in this country, everywhere, you were hatched weren't you. it's ok though, everyone is equal here frank. did you have a nice christmas ? i'm always glad when it's over though, looking forward to the new year, and the beginning of the seventh year of this being a "dead issue" that's been "laid to rest" by the obama campaign (distinctly different from the candidate and the actual, well, you know.... guy in the white house... his whitehouse, not the peoples' anymore), and his thoughtful and most loyal subjects.

hey by the way, nothing to worry about with benghazi, i just heard on a lib obama news channel, say that that scandal is over too. so it probably won't ever come up again, although hillary said she might still testify before congress if people are still interested in what happened by january. she could explain to chris stevens family why they were left hung out to dry there for seven hours while the f 16's were saving energy just sitting on the runway. maybe they were some of those new "green" fighter jets.

or.... the stevens family and the three other familys can just wait till the hollywood (obama) movie version comes out. i'm sure that will be just as good for them. as long as al qaeda is gone/decimated (luckily just in time for the election... wow what a fortunate coincidence), that's the important thing.

now that the middle east is all fixed up, perhaps mr obama can really focus on unsettling asia. i don't think he's blamed anything on china or japan yet.

hey, do you ever see rod blogojevich out in the yard, could you get his autograph for me ?? bet he's got some good stories.

 

now that i think of it, he did blame the American economy (worst since carter) partly on the japan tsunami. oops faux pas

 

here is another obama seinfeldesque coincidence: with nixon it was "follow the money" maybe with obama it's follow the awards...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbert_L._Dunn_Award

2008, and the winner is: you guessed it, alvin onaka. i guess registrars can't get the nobel peace prize. this reminds me of obama sponsoring a bill to make it "ok" for john mccain to be eligible. harrumph.

i don't think president gump thought of all this on his own though.

 

Arguments are set for September in my appeals case!

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