Are the Palestinians the Jews NOT expelled from Judaea after Bar Kochba Revolt?

I just found out something a week or so ago that has huge potential.......
the Latter Day Saints have a prediction that they are going to assist the Jewish people to build the Ezekiel temple complex......

The Mormons could potentially assist Christians and Jews to have a much better relationship as they follow through with that prediction:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-dollar-problem.531929/page-2#post-1069652460

(From L.D.S. / Mormon discussion forum :

 

Am I right in assuming this is a plan oriented toward removing all Islamic presence in the old city?

Pardon me if I assume that EVERYTHING Israelis do is oriented to causing harm to its Muslim residents.

They have such a perfect record of that so far.

 

Personally... I believe that Muslims are soon going to listen to Muslims.... who have a near death experience..... and they will use a different set of scriptures to form something of a Sermon on the Mount / Ten Commandments for Islam...... that will result in a completely different type of relationship with Christians and Jews.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...n-for-the-holy-land-hebrew-and-arabic.530301/

Sura 29:46;

Sura 2:136;

Sura 46:12;

Sura 6:85;

Former Atheist Mellen Benedict was shown how this will come to pass during his NDE.

https://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a09

Since the Palestinians are likely descended from the Jews..... who did NOT join the Bar Kochba Revolt......... they are destined for RESTORATION once certain events come to pass.

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/26048.htm

 

The line between Palestine and Israel isn't going to be drawn by reference to some Sura or some OT verse - no matter who descended from whom.

What's happening today (and for the last few decades) is that Israelis have been stealing the best land that they can as they drive Palestinians from their homes.

I really don't believe Judaism is that profoundly immoral.

And, I don't believe that some scripture is going to stop Israelis from stealing what is valuable when their criminality is being protected by the US.

 

It's not drawn by one sura.

It's drawn by hundreds of sura's, and the entire plan of the religion.

The entire Medina Qur'an, is devoted to the destruction of,
First, the Jews.
Second, the Christians.
Third, everyone else.

The Meccan Qur'an was aimed at the Idolaters, the polytheists, ( The rock god people),
mostly the Meccans.

 

We do not use ancient religious texts to draw national boundaries today.

We don't continue to carry out the wars of ancient times today.

Your interpretation of the Qur'an is not at all consistent with the mainstream Islamic interpretation.

Remember that the Qur'an states that there will be Muslims, Jews and Christians in heaven.

Let's also remember that a fundamental principle of America is the rule of law, and that we work to promote the rule of law as a fundamental principle throughout the world.

 

Where did you ever get those ideas.
Many people, including Muslims, carry out the wars of ancient times.
I don't interpretate the Qur'an, why are you claiming I do.
Where does it say Muslims, Jews and Christians will be in heaven.

 

Qur'an 5:65-69
"O Messenger! proclaim the (message) which hath been sent to thee from thy Lord. It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith. Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,—any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,—on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."

 

What you are doing is "Kitman", lying by omission.

Sahih International 5.65
And if only the People of the Scripture had believed and feared Allah, We would have removed from them their misdeeds and admitted them to Gardens of Pleasure.

Qur’an 9:29
“Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled. –

 

That isn't a refutation of what I quoted.

There were those who didn't believe in god - or who claimed to, but who didn't follow the Bible.

Note that the term "Scripture" means the Bible and that Allah is the one god of the Bible.

 

Allah is not the God of the Judio/Christian bible.
Nobody knows exactly when Allah was incorporated into Islam.

shalI post a few more.

 

True.... it isn't scriptures themselves that will play the largest role in this shift..... it will be the outpouring of the Ruach ha Kodesh / the Holy Spirit / the Shekinah Glory of G-d.

https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04

Once Jews, Christians and Muslims have been given a heart to fear G-d ...... we will no longer think that it is acceptable to G-d to teach our kids to become suicide bombers....... or exaggerate accusations against everybody who we perceive as our opponents!

https://www.blueletterbible.org/nkjv/eze/36/26/s_838026

Ezekiel 36:26 - 31

 

Little Colton Burpo a Christian.... met King David and the Danite Judge Samson during his near death experience...... He also met John the Baptist and Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus. If you take the time to read the book about his account it is convincing....... due to the things he was shown about his previously deceased sister who he was never told about.... .because she was miscarred before he was conceived.

A Muslim woman reported to Pastor Todd Burpo that reading that book and discussing it was one of the only times that her Palestinian Islamic family had a conversation that didn't turn into a fight. That is in the Movie version of the book.

https://bookoutlet.ca/Store/Details...MIhaXHzIrc3QIVUwOGCh0urgRjEAYYASABEgKi2_D_BwE

 

A Christian near death experiencer reports being shown a Muslim in heaven.... while a zealous Christian friend of his who refused to forgive others...... didn't make it.....

https://www.near-death.com/religion/christianity/emanuel-tuwagirairmana.html

 

There was never a time when Allah was not the god of the Bible.

The Qur'an repeatedly uses "people of the Book" to identify Jews, Christians and Muslims.

 

When will it become unacceptable to conduct war against Gaza, a defenseless population which can not feed itself, which can not reconstruct bombed civilian living quarters, which can not export goods, which is denied travel?

When will it become unacceptable to carry out ethnic cleansing operations on West Bank, stealing the homes, the land, the farms of those who live there - an act that is a human rights atrocity?

Today, the USA empowers Israel to carry out these acts of universally recognized atrocity.

When will WE find it unacceptable to be an active party in these humanitarian atrocities?

 

Sorry, people of the Book is for Jews, Christians zoestranism and a couple others, but not muslims.

Allah shows up about 2/3rds of the way through the Qur'an.

While many religions used the word "al lah" with several different spellings and pronunciations to mean God,,
It doesn't show up in Islam for a while.
In Islam Allah is Gods name.

Neither the Hebrews, nor the Christians used it.

 

"People of the Book" is a term of the Qur'an.

It's preposterous for you to redefine the identification that is so clearly made in so many places in the Qur'an.

Whether Jews of Christians used the term is very clearly irrelevant. There are a good number of names for the god of the bible used in various languages. That doesn't mean they are referring to a different god. And, the Qur'an very clearly identifies Allah as a reference to the god of the bible.

 

From another standpoint -

It's great to believe that at some future time all may be forgiven and we'll all get along.

But, that's NOT a prescription for our acts today.

We're told we will be forgiven our transgressions.

That's not permission to transgress.

You say we will be shown something that will bring us together. How about that "something" being OUR actions TODAY?

We know what's right. What does God have to say about people who continue on a path when they know it is NOT right and when the right path IS known?

 

Jews and Christians did not use the term.
People of the book, is in the Qur'an, but it refers to the Christians and jews, not the Muslims.

and it does not matter which God the Qur'an refers to.
The Christians and Jews have a different God.
Muslims can claim anything they want, it does not mean other religions have to abide by it.


Why do you suppose Muhammed was so obsessed with robbing and killing jews???

 

No, it refers to all those who believe the Bible - which absolutely does include Islam.

There isn't any "abide by" going on here.

There certainly were wars going on at the time.

 

If Islam believes in the bible,
How come they re-wrote it.

 

The Qur'an is not a rewrite of the Bible.

For instance, it does not replace the creation story, the story of Noah, the activities and message of Jesus, etc.

Like some divisions of Christianity, they see Jesus as a man, a major prophet, the only prophet to have carried out miracles (as a conduit of the power of God).

 

The Qur'an , and Islam, was plagiarized from Judism, Christianity, Zoroastrianism, and Greek medical.
It takes the biblical stories, and people, and changes them to fit a muslim narrative, changing the adventures.
It turns everyone into muslims, long before Muslims existed.

 

Oh, please.

Even Christianity includes divisions that have different interpretations of the various events of the bible.

If you have a complaint about the Qur'an it can't possibly be limited to not reciting the "adventures" the way you like.