Are Twins Taking Over?

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  1. TheHat

    TheHat Well-Known Member

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    http://www.slate.com/id/2301801/pagenum/2

    They really didn't make much sense out of this. In fact, its a standard article that never touches on the real reason for increases in twins or multiple births.

    Want to know why women are having to do IVF? B/c they have been on birth control for so long, when they are finally ready to have a baby, their body won't produce eggs b/c they have basically fried their ovaries. So they turn to IVF, which winds up poping out multiple eggs, hence creating the environment for more twin births.

    So these women, and you can read the comments on this article, spend years on birth control, killing their perfectly healthy body, then when they are ready to have kids, they swing their body all the way back across the pendulum to produce multiple eggs b/c their body has to be stimulated to do it now because they have turned their once healthy body against itself.

    So they move from synthetic steroids to not get pregnant, to synthetic steroids to get pregnant.

    Its nuts. Not to mention, they spent a fortune on all the birth control and IVF treatments over the span of years if not decades to not get pregnant, then to get pregnant. Its the craziest thing you will ever see.

    Of course, the slate article doesn't dare touch any of this because they would be labeled by the feminazis as being "anti-woman". They just talk about the IVF treatments as if that is the main culprit. Well, it's not. It's years on end of birth control, followed by the inability of the body to reestablish a healthy equilibrium to naturally produce eggs during ovulation.

    I will never understand how women look at birth control and think it is a great thing. We ban teenage boys from taking synthetic testosterone because of its effects on the body. Yet we have parents putting their daughters on synthetic progesterone and estrogen to stave off possible pregnancy. And these young ladies are taking it for years on end thinking its great because the commericals promise you great looking skin. Nevermind the other 45 seconds of side effects that make up the 50 second commerical. Somehow that 5 seconds of positive skin looks, outweighs the real causes for concern.

    I know the comments that will ensue from this OP. They will be extreme in nature. They will talk about how some women take birth control for menstraul causes. Well good for them. I am not talking about women with real medical conditions. I am talking about your average healthy teenager and young woman who willingly puts themselves on these drugs. The ones who are skinny at first, then turn into water holding blimps and can't figure out why they can't lose weight. I am talking about the women who are perfectly healthy, who wind up having their spleens removed. I am talking about the perfectly healthy women, who wind up having cysts removed from their ovaries. I am talking about the otherwise perfectly healthy women who wind up getting cervical cancer at an early age. I am talking about the lady who got an IUD who didn't get it taken out after the right amount of time, who almost died because of infection.

    They all know better. They all think because everyone else does it, that they need to do it. That is where the joke turns sick. These same women, they will tell you how evil big business is, yet the sick, twisted joke is on them. They are actively participating in big business. Do they really expect the same pharmacutical companies they so staunchly hate on, is gonna tell them what these drugs do to their bodies? Its a weird dynamic. On the one hand these women will hate on big business, then on the other hand, go out and buy their product and call it a "life saver". Explain that?

    Why are perfectly healthy people, willingly putting drugs into their body as if they are carrying around a disease? Fertility is not to be condemned or done away with. There are plenty of women who go do IVF because they can't conceive naturally and honestly need it. And here we have millions of women taking synthetic hormones, that turn an otherwise healthy body on itself with the notion that getting pregnant ends their life as they know it.

    Its a sick, disgusting mentality. To think being fertile is a disease and something that is unnatural that you have to actually do away with it. Waiting on some artificial "right time" to have a baby that changes as often as the wind blows and as often as deciding if you want Vanilla or Chocolate ice cream. The "right time" is never right. When the "right time" comes, it will probably end up requiring a trip to get an IVF treatment because you neglected your body's natural ability to maintain a healthy reproductive system.

    Cost: 10 years of birth control equals how many dollars? 2 or 3 years worth of IVF equals how many dollars? These same people will tell you they can't afford a baby. Well don't look now ladies, had you not been spending a fortune on not getting pregnant, how much money would you have accumulated over the years for your "then" baby?
     
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    People have been sold a story that they can do whatever they want, and if they take the right drug or tell the right lie, there are no consequences. Add to that, the very real reality that others no longer are willing to point fingers because we can't make anyone feel bad.

    And the drug companies laugh all the way to the bank, with Big Fed as a willing partner.

    Too fat? Take a drug.

    Kid too feisty? Give him a drug.

    Want to be a slut and not get preggo? Take a drug.

    Mother's Little Helper for all shapes, ages and sizes.

    Oh, and then sue the drug companies after the pill you willingly took, knowing the side effects, made you sick.

    We need a good plague to wipe out most of the world. Unfortunately plagues do not discriminate so we'll be left with the same ratio of jagoffs to normal people like me.
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Where is all your scientific proof to back up your claims against birth control?

    You are making quite a few unsubstantiated claims from what I can see in the OP there.
     
  4. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    LOL the OP is a crock of (*)(*)(*)(*). I am not damaging my body by taking birth control and neither is anyone else. You have nothing at all to back up your claims.

    You might think that taking birth control is wrong, but what I consider to be more wrong is to have unprotected sex and ending up with an entire football team of kids, especially if you didn't want them in the first place.

    Let people make their own decisions about their own bodies. If someone needs to resort to IVF, how does that affect you? It doesn't. If someone has twins or triplets from IVF, how does that affect you? It doesn't.

    Birth control is a brilliant invention.
     
  5. TheHat

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    I want to see the 2 of you go looking for the facts yourself.

    And Makedde, I expect better behavior from a moderator...lol.
     
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    Most women regain their fertility 3-6 months after stopping hormonal BC. Some regain it immediately. Since some women have fertility problems without ever having used any BC, it is not possible to link infertility to BC. Some women cannot use hormonal BC at all because of health conditions, the use of hormonal BC is monitored by doctors, women must have annual check-ups. Barrier type BC is quite effective and has none of the side-effects you are claiming for hormonal BC. IAC, the use of any BC is SAFER THAN PREGNANCY/CHILDBIRTH.
     
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    Increased risk of certain cancers and blood clots are common known risks.
     
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    No, she's right the original post is full of (*)(*)(*)(*).

    Birth control does not cause infertility in women. In fact, some research has shown that women who take oral contraception forprolonged periods of time (5 years or more) may have an easier time conceiving.

    http://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/news/20020827/birth-control-pills-may-aid-fertility

    So stop getting your birth control information from Catholic websites...
     
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    Oral contraceptives are linked to a slight increase in breast cancer.

    Blood clots are a risk for some women though it's a complex relationship that hasn't been nailed down yet.

    However, oral contraceptives also SIGNIFICANTLY decrease the risk of ovarian, endometrial and colorectal cancer. In fact, the risks of getting ovarian or endometrial cancer are HALVED.

    In addition there are numerous benefits associated with the cessation or mitigation of the menstrual cycle.
     
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    So you're going to make a load of assertions and not even back them up? Good for you. Glad we don't have to accept any of it as fact.
     
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    Thank you for that well informed post, Todd. :)
     
  12. Makedde

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    If a woman didn't produce eggs then she probably wouldn't ovulate and have a period, either. Guess what? They can. I've been on the pill for about 6 years and I can come off and have a period within a week.

    There is nothing at all wrong with my body. It works perfectly, thank you very much.
     
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    Nope. Full term pregnancies and breastfeed PROTECT women from cancer.

    That's the facts, jack.

    http://www.breastfeeding.com/all_about/all_about_breast_cancer.html
     
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    Tsk, tsk. It seems all proabortionists are intellectually incurious...I guess knowing the actual facts kinda blows away the whole abortion dogma, eh?

    My source is fine...it is you who is biased.

    If you bothered to actually read the WHO's press release, you would see that it provided links to Volume 91 (2007) Combined Estrogen-Progestogen Contraceptives and Combined Estrogen-Progestogen Menopausal Therapy

    You might try reading it. It could save your life.
     
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    What actual facts? If birth control really did make us infertile, then just about every woman would be using IVF to fall pregnant. That is not the case though, is it?
     
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    Wow...nothing to say about how the WHO finds the 'pill' carcinogenic...?

    Ignorance is bliss, I suppose...
     
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    Otter, those studies were done on the old HIGH DOSAGE pills. It is not honest to say that all hormonal BC is carcinogenic. Even so, there is only a MINUTE amount of increased risk. It is more risky to a woman to complete pregnancy/childbirth than to take BC pills.
     
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    I've been taking the pill for around 7 years, I guess I probably already have cancer. :rolleyes:
     
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    Yeah Mak, you should have started pushing some kids out the moment you started your period, hell me too! It might have saved our lives. I guess we're going to die from breast cancer now since we didn't get knocked up multiple times at young ages and breast feed. Instead we decided to be responsible and get on the pill! Oh lordy are we in trouble. =P
     
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    Well you can choose to deny science if you must, but it is factual that it increases the risk of some types of cancer and of blot clots as well. Getting snarky about it just makes you look childish, or maybe MORE childish.
     
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    The old high dosage birth control pill causes a minutely increased chance of some cancers. Is that pill prescribed at all anymore?

    What is interesting here is that the same people who want abortion criminalized also want the most reliable method of birth control eliminated. What could be the real agenda?
     
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    What is truly interesting here is how abortion promoters like yourself make up emotion based lies when pinned down.
     

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