Armed man takes hostages at Texas Synagouge

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Domestically? Yes, they are a bigger threat right now than Jihadists are. Even if we just look at synagogues and other Jewish sites. Thankfully, none of the victims here were physically hurt, so far as I've heard reported.
     
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    The criminal in question was not an immigrant. And last I checked, there were more attacks on synagogues and other Jewish sites in the US by white supremacist right wingers than by Muslims. I know I've personally faced far more antisemitism from the right than I have from the left, even here on the forums. Hell, when a RWer on the forum outright stated that the world needed another Hitler, I couldn't get a single of his fellow RWers to condemn the statement. They condemned it when it came from someone on the left, but the moment someone on the right said the same thing, they all ran away into hiding.

    Have your guys ever stopped to consider that maybe, just maybe our lives should be worth something more than just your political convenience?
     
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    have to agree, say a biggly politician went to prison and someone of the other party took hostages asking for his release, just to get him or her executed

    it's a bad idea
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sounds like Trump got it wrong
     
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    The US has done a good job of keeping the Jihadist threat, which remains, by far, the biggest terrorist threat worldwide, out of America since 9/11.

    White supremacist violence is only the biggest threat in the US currently because left-wing-extremist violence and destruction is conveniently shoved into any box EXCEPT the domestic terrorism box where it obviously belongs.

    The left-wing-anarchist riots that raged for over half a year in the US involved extensive death and violence, and did billions of dollars worth of damage, but it was all written off as "street crime" rather than being called out as the domestic terrorism it so obviously.

    It's all stupid tricks of classification, and only a feeble-minded person would fall for such puny mind tricks.
     
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    And yet, when we look at the actual body counts . . .
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Let's look at the body counts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_right-wing_terrorist_attacks

    https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/islamist-terrorist-attacks-in-the-world-1979-2019/

    "Thus, by way of illustration, we can establish that between 1979 and 2019, at least 33,769 Islamist terrorist attacks took place worldwide. They caused the deaths of at least 167,096 people."

    Jihadist terrorism claims more lives in any given month worldwide than white supremacist terrorism has claimed, in total, over the last 40 years.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Now try the same thing domestically.
     
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    If you classify the victims of violence that were associated with the left-wing-extremist riots as victims of domestic terrorism, which you should, because they are, you'll get a higher body count than the victims of white supremacists.

    If you take it further and count black street gangs as domestic terrorists, which you should, because they're clearly the biggest threat by far, then you'll see that black street gangs claim more victims in just Chicago alone every single year than white supremacists have killed in the entire US over the last 40 years.

    If you want to do an honest threat assessment, and not just make a narrow and myopic political point, then stop with the silly "crime classification" games.
     
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    Evidence?

    So this is the part where you claim that every shooting by a black person was somehow politically motivated? I figured that's what you'd have to make up.

    So you are going to quit classifying jihadist crimes? I have a feeling that isn't true.
     
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    At least 25 Americans were killed during protests and political ...
    https://www.theguardian.com › world › oct › americans...

    Oct 31, 2020 — Findings from Armed Conflict Location and Event Data raise concerns about continued violence during and after election day.

    Thank you for confirming that it's all a matter of deliberately-obfuscatory politics for you, and not a simple matter of risk assessment.

    No, we should absolutely classify jihadist crimes as jihadist crimes. But we should also classify left-wing-extremist crimes properly, which we do not classify properly for foolish political reasons, and we should also classify black street gangs as domestic terrorists, because they are certainly that, and they are absolutely the biggest domestic threat.

    Classify terrorists as terrorists, properly assess the threats they represent, and stop with the stupid political tricks.
     
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    America is really in a sad and tragic state now. Radical islamist takes hostages in synagogue and it is not an act of antisemitsm?!!

    It seems FBI is undermining Texas state policy and laws:

    Governor Greg Abbott today signed House Bill (HB) 3257 into law, establishing the Texas Holocaust, Genocide, and Antisemitism Advisory Commission. This commission will produce biennial studies of antisemitism in Texas, work with schools and institutions of higher educations to develop effective methods to combat antisemitism, and implement Holocaust and genocide courses of study and awareness programs.

    https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/gov...genocide-and-antisemitism-advisory-commission
     
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    I think this guy was a suicidal nut case that though he could give his life to free that woman

    I am glad they got the hostages freed, cause no way to know what he would have done to them as his demands were not met
     
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    SHOT:

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    Chaser: Police in Manchester arrest two teenagers over Texas synagogue siege that saw anti-Semitic terrorist from Blackburn shot dead – as first picture of gunman emerges and his ‘devastated’ brother says: ‘He had a criminal record. How was he allowed to travel?’

    Hangover:

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    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/497787/

    It's just as you said.
     
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    Or you could do it since you made the claim?

    Nobody fears white supremacy like they fear leftist lunatics going crazy.

    Everybody knows which political side is the most violent in this country.

    But as I told someone in another thread, PLEASE keep up with this attitude that the left is holier than thou as ignoring the obvious problem will turn voters away from the left faster than any other topic. Peoples safety, when it's threatened, takes precedence over all else.
     
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    So you can't address what I've said? Cool. No surprise. Meanwhile, the only real attacks on US Jewish sites that we've had in recent history, besides this one, have all come from the white supremacists. I'm sorry that reality is inconvenient for your politics. But if you can't discuss reality, I can't say I'm surprised. The right doesn't actually care about us Jews. They just pretend to when they think that it fits their agenda. Are you going to pretend to care?
     
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    When it comes to jews, nobody displays a distaste for them like the left. Shall we discuss the views towards jews that a few democrat members of congress hold towards the jewish people?

    However, I simply asked you to back up a claim you initially made and, as always, I'm SHOCKED you completely avoided doing so.

    Back up your claim or move on. I know it sucks being called out and asked to defend your nonsense, but you'll have to get over it.
     
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    A white person that hates people for stupid reasons is no more political than a black person who hates people for stupid reasons. How is being a part of the KKK or privately believing in white supremacy any less terrorism than gangs who literally terrorize everyone in the cities they inhabit? Seriously, logically, how is gang violence NOT terrorism but a lone wolf is? How is an organized gang any different if their bald and have tattoos? Ok, now which race am I speaking of? Bald violent and lots of tattoos? Could be either correct? Could be a KKK member. Could be any number of black gangs. And let’s not even mention Latin gangs. They’re worse than the KKK as well. The ONLY reason gang violence isn’t labeled terrorism is because it would toss the white supremacist boogie man out the window and show everyone which people truly are the most statistically dangerous. Stats don’t lie, but the MSM and Democrats do. Or let’s say mislead and brainwash.
     
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    Well the FBI said that this invasion of this particular synagogue by a man trying to free a highly dangerous Palestinian terrorist with ties to Al Qaeda anti-Semite had nothing to do with the people being Jewish.

    "[FBI Special Agent in Charge] DeSarno said the hostage taker was specifically focused on an issue not directly connected to the Jewish community and there was no immediate indication that the man had was part of any broader plan, but DeSarno said the agency’s investigation “will have global reach.”
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/report-hostages-apparently-texas-synagogue-82286234

    Just amazing. It was a TERRORIST ATTACK.
     
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    The Dirt Bag FBI are well-known to be liars in service of the worst elements of the Left and often in conspiracy with fake news:

    #JOURNALISM:

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    "The press is very careful about who it wants to be angry, and about what. And about who it doesn’t want to be angry, or even aware."

    "Likewise the FBI Twitter Feed is all about January 6, and has nothing about the synagogue attack. They have their priorities, too."

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    What is the name of that Muslim woman that the terrorists wanted to free?
     
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    So this Aafia Siddiqui is the reason.
    A most terrible woman!
     
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    Could you imagine if the terrorist was white?
     
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    Now that you've responded to a cartoon caricature that you're pretending is represensative of all Democrats, did you want to take this opportunity and respond to actual real people that aren't the one-dimensional boogiemen your post was intended for? I mean, you can keep posting in fantasyworld about fictional boogiemen as it's your account and isn't breaking any rules, but I thought maybe I'd offer you an invitation to join us over here in reality. It's not as exciting without the storybook bad guys to rage against like you were doing in your post, but it is REAL.
     
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    From your article.
    No cause can justify or excuse this antisemitic crime. We stand in solidarity with the Jewish community

    Yet you posted they defended her !!!!
     
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