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  1. KGB agent

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    Military strategy is one tier lower than Strategy of the state. The failure was on the military level, not the invasion decision itself.

    So,please, next time you'll be drunk discuss the issues with whiskey bottle instead of posting BS.
     
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    In other words, you think that Napoleon and Hitler could have actually conquered Russia? You honestly believe they could have won in that war?

    You are more delusional then I thought, and in a very strange way my friend. I state it was a fail because I do not think they had a prayer in doing so.
     
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    Oh, "it was impossible to win". Typical excuse for (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and loosers.

    You know what is situated here?


    WW2 monument at the place of Germans maximum approach to Moscow. It is only 23 km from Kremlin.


    Napoleon was a moron. Miserably failed to sort out his priorities and main targets.
     
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    And once again, you honestly think taking Moscow would have ended the war there?

    Funny, but I actually seem to have more faith and belief in the Soviet Army then you do. I think they would have continues to pull back, and allow the Germans to stretch their lines further and further. Moscow even if it had fallen would largely have been a hollow victory, everything of importance would have already moved further East.

    And there is no way in Hell that Hitler could have gone much further, he could not even reach Moscow, much less the new factory towns springing up further East.
     
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    Losing a huge idustrial, governmental and, here comes you favourite part, logistical center with a population of 4 million people would hit every aspect of fighting badly. Moreover, holding Moscow was critical for people's moral and will to fight.
    Wermacht defeat at the battle of Moscow was the first time it was pwned since 1939.

    And continue loosing population and industrial potential to German pigs. Great plan, bro. You are of genius!
    Napoleon's caliber, definitely.

    There was no need to. They only need to reach the airfields close enough to Urals so their bombers can do the rest of the job.
    You've obviously misreaded the previous post. He did. They were 23 km from Moscow's center at some point.
    As if they were more prepared for winter warfare and as if they were not so sure about their "superiority" the whole thing would end the other way.

    The same situation with Stalingrad. Nothing to add here.
     
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    I don't think most Soviets, or Russians, really gave that much of a (*)(*)(*)(*) about Moscow. It'd only been the capital for a short time. The more historic city was Leningrad, which had been the capital of Russia for centuries.
     
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    Someone needs to read up his history lessons.

    St.Petersburg was the capital city for only~200 years compared to ~500 of Moscow.
     
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    Guess what? No one alive during WW2 had been alive when it had been Moscow before. They had been alive when it's been St Petersburg.
     
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    Guess what? Moscow was back to capital city status since 1917. 1917+20=1937. An entire generation have grown up since the day.
    But anyway, losing big cities is a pain with them being capital or not.
     

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