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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Apr 3, 2020.

  1. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    Sanders is running as a democrats Biden also shows hate for Trump and shows he cares nothing about the people dying
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I asked from a direct quote from a Democratic leader. Sanders is an independent and your “source” only showed what trump — who is one of the most dishonest people to ever enter politics — said Biden said about him.

    Your sad attempt to deflect is noted however.
     
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    The consumption of the government stockpiles of masks and ventilators during his own pandemic - and then didn't replace them.
     
  4. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    Sanders is a democrat
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except he isn’t...

    He is an independent that caucuses with the Democratic Party and has pledged to serve as a Democrat if elected.
     
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    The real crime here is not implementing the DPA to procure and distribute supplies to areas in need in a declared national emergency.

    The administration is wittingly promoting profiteering. That lone fact tells you everything you need to know about Trump.
     
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    You're not making any sense. You seem to be complaining about medical personnel using masks in a Pandemic that happened 11 years ago. Why would you not want them to use them 11 years ago? But more importantly, what does that have to do with this pandemic? If Trump needed to replenish it, he had enough time after he learned about the danger and before there were so many cases that this became an issue. Way before people started going crazy and hogging medical supplies for personal use.

    A very sorry excuse that will not convince anybody unless they are one of the deep Trump faithful who would excuse every dumb thing this incompetent President does or fails to do.
     
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    The only people more incompetent than Trump are the democrats.
     
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    Is he running for president as a democrat?
     
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    More democrat lies with nom proof
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He is not a Democrat until he is elected as per the pledge I mentioned above. He is an Independent. If he is not elected he will remain an Independent. If he was already a Democrat there would be no reason for the pledge...

    Is it really that difficult for you to understand?
     
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    Right now this is mainly heavily impacting blue areas of the nation due to population density — I guarantee when red and purple areas are hit because they have ignored this and drug their feet the federal government will come to the rescue. All these items that were held back or commandeered will suddenly become available.
     
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    He is running as a democrat that is why he is involved in the democrat debates. If was an independent he would not be allowed to participate in the democrat debates. He is running as a democrat
     
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    Then why was he required to sign a pledge stipulating he would become a Democrat if elected? If he was already a Democrat no such pledge would be needed...
     
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    If only Paul Harvey was still alive, the rest of the story might have been heard by a small % of alert radio listeners
     
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    I have been saying for years that the job of the Presidency has grown to the point where it is too big for one man.

    And that's why we have Pence!
     
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    If he is not a democrats why she involved in democrat party debates. You can't have it both ways
     
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    It makes perfect sense; it just doesn't fit your TDS view of the world. Of course I want medical personnel or anyone else at risk to have what they need to keep themselves safe and healthy. And then, when they use it, I want the stocks replenished. You're twisting the argument to avoid that main point: Obama released the national stockpiles and then didn't replenish them and now the left blames Trump.
     
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    obama had 7.

    congress had 10 and spent what..30 trillion in that span?

    whatever idiot department that was in charge of ordering/requesting replacements had 10 years.

    it seems unlikely that the order was accidentally routed to trumps spam folder on gmail and he never saw it and that's why this problem occured.
     
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    That's a fine conspiracy theory, rooted in a persecuted, victim, mindset.
     
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    Yes, that is literally what is happening. He is literally running on both parties.

    Here is a source for you to ignore:
    Bernie Sanders Files To Run As A Democrat — And An Independent
    Bernie Sanders filed Monday to be a candidate for the Senate in 2024 — as an independent.
    But last month, Sanders filed as a Democrat for president.

    Sanders also filed as a Democrat in 2016 to be able to run in the Democratic presidential primary — and had already filed for his 2018 Senate campaign as an independent, a status he's held in Congress for many years. Sanders' ambiguous party loyalty was one reason the Democratic National Committee adopted rules for 2020 candidates to affirm that they are, in fact, a Democrat, and will run and serve as one.
     
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    If the pandemic task force Obama supposedly had in place that Trump supposedly disbanded did not procure new supplies and replenish supplies of masks used, what good were they? What good would they have been today if they were that incompetent? Just asking an honest question.

    All this talk about government being too big for one executive to oversee makes me glad I don’t depend on government for everything. It makes me sad we have shirked our duty at local and state level and passed responsibility off to the Federal government. Our founders would not be proud.

    We have abdicated our individual responsibility to the Federal government, and history should have shown us it would end this way. Government can never protect or care for the individual as well as the individual can provide for themselves. Now that people are realizing that, there is a lot of fear. I see stark, naked fear in many posts now. It’s masked in vitriol against political rivals and ideology, but it’s fear plain and simple. It’s getting more visceral each day here on PF. I’m concerned if everyone continues to channel their fear in this manner our country will be destroyed even though the virus will be conquered. Hope I’m wrong....
     
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    Please stop making excuses for this incompetent Administration
     
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    Nothing in my post made excuses for this administration. Please respond to what I actually post if you are going to respond.
     
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    :roflol::roflol:

    Good one!
     

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