I remain amazed at the partisanship that leads people to condemn Biden for each of the above, yet somehow defend Trump. If it was Romney, McCain, even Bush Jr, who presented themselves with a modicum of basic human decency I could see the logic (though I would disagree), but Trump??
@DennisTate ARE you prepared for the Rapture? And what would @DennisTate do if he KNEW he was witnessing the 4 horseman? Moi We're all going to die slow, horrible, languishing deaths
Repeat , , , , , I have something for YOU. Its a movie. My wife and I saw it for the first time last night. I thought about you. This film can reach your mind and heart. You're a seeker. Give it a shot. The film is The Shack featuring Sam Worthington as Mack. Mack is a man identical to your atheist friends -- many of whom focus only on the pain in the world and Mack blames God for it all -- just as many of your atheist friends do. The Shack is based on the New York Times best seller novel The Shack. The shack could be your path to better and happier realities. Best Regards. JAG PS If you desire to stay on the Internet endlessly making the same points again and again and again and again -- then that's what you will choose to do. Nigerian princes , , , snake-oil salesmen etc The Shack can be your path out of the rut that you are in and have been in for years. Its not going to get any better for you either. The Shack is worth your time. What do you have to lose? The Shack will present you with answers to your concerns if you go the distance with it --- stay to the end. I recommend you put the subtitles on so you will not miss a single world of the magnificent dialogue. This is a powerful movie. It has a message for YOU. Its features Sam Worthington who played Jake Sully in Avatar. This film is well acted. The script is magnificent. You will be moved. Do it. My wife and I viewed it for the first time 2 nights ago. We viewed it again today. We plan to view it regularly because of its quality. JAG ``
Its impossible to fix the world apart from the One who created the world and His Son the Lord Jesus. The Cross is THE central theme of redemptive human history and you must start with The Cross. God has a master plan to redeem and save this broken world and , , , Step # 1 is to become "born again" {John 3:3} "You must be born again." so you can understand spiritual truths Step # 2 is you must believe in the Lord Jesus as your Savior -- John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." Step # 3 is you must allow the Holy Spirit to produce in your life the fruits of the Holy Spirit which are listed in Gal. 5:22-23 -- they are: Love Joy Peace Forbearance Kindness Goodness Faithfulness Gentleness Self-control There are 7 of them and they cannot be produced, in the sense that they will actually solve human problems, by any means other than the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit. These 7 qualities, if experienced by all, would fix the world. And Step # 2 is to believe in the Lord Jesus. Why is this vital? Because, for one thing, its a simple test. The test is will you, or will you not, submit your life to God? The Faith Test {believe} will decide your eternal destiny. There can be only one God in Heaven and if you refuse to simply believe that He exists and refuse to believe in Him, then that's your way of saying, de facto, that "I am my own God and I will not be obedient to the God that create me." So? So the perish of John 3:16 There can be only one God in Heaven and He is not going to share His throne with anyone -- much less one of we fallen frail humans. JAG ``
Did "Grandpa" say that? {your little cartoon character} That's incorrect. God gives many people a quick death that is pain-free. For example Edward Fudge the Christian scholar who wrote "The Fire That Consumes: A Biblical And Historical Study Of Final Punishment" was given a quiet peaceful death {said his family who was there with him when he died.} Best. JAG ``
Why do you continue to defend Biden's past history of segregation, rape, sniffing little girls necks and rubbing their shoulders, plagiarism, Lying (could be the dementia), lazy, family racketeering... I'm not saying Trump has a great past either. But, that's not why I voted for him nor why I continue to support him. I refused to support a murderous woman (Hillary) who attacked women (Bill's victims), killed an ambassador and others in Benghazi, conspired with Obama and Biden to spy on Trump and rigged up the fake Russian Hoax by paying for the fake dossier. Obama-Biden screwed up the economy, the world and so no way did I support a 3rd term of Obama-Biden. I still don't and won't. Biden is not my President. My President, the one who actually won the election, fixed the economy, brought troops home, solved the peace problem in the middle east with Israel's enemies (now former enemies), fixed the trade discrepancies, closing the boarders with the wall, helping Veterans, help fix the broken law system with respects to black incarcerations, Lowered regulations to allow a vaccine for COVID19 to happen in only 7 months, lowered taxes and increased Black and Hispanic family incomes by $6,000/yr, shrunk the wealth gap between rich and the middle class, shrunk regulations for corporations bringing back hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs, stopped NK's Un from threatening nuclear war if Hillary won, and a whole lot more. Now, Biden is going to unravel all these good things. No wonder there are people willing to attack the Capitol. It's wrong, but it's not surprising. The Democrats have opened a can of worms with their cheating, lying, continued attacks for 4 years on Trump and the recent impeachment. It's not Trump's actions that caused the so-called insurrection. It's Pelosi, Biden, Schumer and the rest of the dumbest Democrats in history that caused it. And, if there are other violent acts in the next 4 years, it will continue to be the Democrats who cause it.
I don't. I think he's a horrible choice for the Presidency. His history isn't good and he appears to be senile. I remember when people said that when Bush Jr. took the oval office. I remember when people said that when Obama took it. I remember people who said that when Trump took it. I suppose its interesting rhetoric, but its irrelevant. Biden is the new president of the USA. That's just reality. Of course it will be 100% their fault, totally one sided. They are all evil, and you are all good. I can see you are completely and irreversibly partisan and that there is no point in discussing anything further with you.
What if I choose not to accept Edward Fudge and his analysis. How is he more Gnostic than you or I? Moi We're all going to die slow, horrible, languishing deaths
To be sure you did not actually miss my very clear point -- which was NOT to get you to "accept" Edward Fudge's doctrinal conclusions -- but ONLY to make the point that God gives some people a quiet peaceful death, for example Edward Fudge who had such a death according to his family who was there with him when he died. Also its general public knowledge that many people have a quiet peaceful pain-free death. Whoever is saying "We're all going to die slow, horrible, languishing deaths" is incorrect. Best. JAG
Biden certainly is senile. Bush and Obama actually won the elections and were my Presidents. Obama was a commie but he actually won both times. Biden did not win and we all know it. There is evil on all sides. There is just a lot more on the Democrat sides. For one reason, most of them are atheist or agnostics. They can't help themselves. Man is by nature carnal and devilish and need's God and his Spirit to change their hearts and minds towards good. He continues to sin but through the Great Atonement of our Savior, we can over come that as well.
Semi-delusional...The other half is self-justifying, self-excusing, hypocrisy. Show us WHERE you speak about Trump, the way you expect Biden voters to, nevertheless, speak about him? You got a link? In truth, you do not accept those voters' choice ("my choice...who actually won the election..."-- rich!). Well, this is America, so get used to it: we decide our leaders at the ballot box, not through riots & lynch-mobs. And here it is the individual's VOTE that is sacred. You have no more right to tell someone who they must vote for, or to disqualify others' votes for the, "wrong," candidate, than anyone else has to tell you that you believe in the wrong religion, & that you must, instead, belong to some other religion, which is the only true, legitimate one. As a miscellaneous criticism, you are bringing that attitude, through your comments, to a thread entitled, Ask Jesus One Question, so your remarks, besides being intolerant of, & indicating a mind closed to considering, differing perspectives, are also off-topic.
You didn't say one thing about what Trump did for the U.S. nor what Obama-Biden did against the U.S. All you did is go off on tangents you think mean something when they don't. So, here you go again, "Why do you continue to defend Biden's past history of segregation, rape, sniffing little girls necks and rubbing their shoulders, plagiarism, Lying (could be the dementia), lazy, family racketeering... I'm not saying Trump has a great past either. But, that's not why I voted for him nor why I continue to support him. I refused to support a murderous woman (Hillary) who attacked women (Bill's victims), killed an ambassador and others in Benghazi, conspired with Obama and Biden to spy on Trump and rigged up the fake Russian Hoax by paying for the fake dossier. Obama-Biden screwed up the economy, the world and so no way did I support a 3rd term of Obama-Biden. I still don't and won't. Biden is not my President. My President, the one who actually won the election, fixed the economy, brought troops home, solved the peace problem in the middle east with Israel's enemies (now former enemies), fixed the trade discrepancies, closing the boarders with the wall, helping Veterans, help fix the broken law system with respects to black incarcerations, Lowered regulations to allow a vaccine for COVID19 to happen in only 7 months, lowered taxes and increased Black and Hispanic family incomes by $6,000/yr, shrunk the wealth gap between rich and the middle class, shrunk regulations for corporations bringing back hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs, stopped NK's Un from threatening nuclear war if Hillary won, and a whole lot more. Now, Biden is going to unravel all these good things. No wonder there are people willing to attack the Capitol. It's wrong, but it's not surprising. The Democrats have opened a can of worms with their cheating, lying, continued attacks for 4 years on Trump and the recent impeachment. It's not Trump's actions that caused the so-called insurrection. It's Pelosi, Biden, Schumer and the rest of the dumbest Democrats in history that caused it. And, if there are other violent acts in the next 4 years, it will continue to be the Democrats who cause it."
So, you think Trump is Jesus? Or do you believe Biden is Jesus? How about Obama? It must be one of those, because I explained the concept of this thread to you-- well actually just pointed out the title of the thread (see top), because I assumed you could figure it out, from there. Did I overestimate your abilities? If the people you keep bringing up are the ones that you want to talk about, then you are in the wrong thread. Why? Because this thread is NOT about Biden. Or Obama. Or Trump. This is even in the RELIGION & PHILOSOPHY forum, not politics, so you are REALLY lost. There are scores of threads, even more than that, that are about those men or in which they would be valid to bring up. But unless you consider one of them JESUS, they have no place HERE. You are harassing & flamebaiting and, purposely trying to derail this thread. With all those other threads out there, what are you doing here? Did all the others tell you to go? No one wanted anything to do with you? Tell me, by the way, what the heck is a cougar-bear? All I can picture is a Grizzly, driving a Mercury.
I struggle to see how it would resolve any of the issues I have with your approach. Being moved by cinematography is not a good reason to believe anything. There are moving films from all over the spectrum, it seems to me, you're moved not by the truth, but by a biased selection of films. And at >2h and a 21% score on rotten tomatoes, it seems unlikely to be worth my time in any sense. How much time have you spent watching movies with a evangelical Hindu message? Couldn't say. Me and some other non-religious people. Either way, you're dodging the question of actually providing good reasons to believe. Well, again, my question is not how to fix the world, but which information Jesus could give me to best fix the world. If it requires me to be born again, then in order to answer the question, Jesus would have to provide good reasons for me to become born again (or it would be a failure to answer the question). This means nothing more to me than "There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet" or Buddhism's four noble truths or any other unfounded statement means to either of us. My answer to this thread seeks to alleviate that, but you keep missing that point.
Did you see the Tom Cruise film The Last Samurai? If you did, do you remember the scene where one of the Samurai, in an effort to help Captain Nathan Algren {Tom Cruise} fight more effectively, went up and said to him, in the midst of a fight , , , , "TO MANY MINDS , , {instead have }NO MIND" Captain Nathan Algren had, like you, "TO MANY MINDS." You will NEVER find what you are looking for via using your intellect {TO MUCH MIND} -- the way to God and happiness and peace is through the HEART and not through the intellect. It is in the arena of the HEART, and not the intellect, that you will find the answers you are looking for. You are, to be sure, a seeker. But you are looking in the wrong place. and using the wrong tools. Your certain defeat is built into your search. You will not be defeated by men, but defeated by trying to catch fish in the middle of the Sahara desert {looking in the wrong place} and by using the wrong tool {your intellect instead of your HEART.} The good news is that it does not have to be this way. The bad news is that you are most likely like the average man and it will probably take many more YEARS of frustration and failure until you finally at last catch on to the fact that you are indeed looking in the wrong place using the wrong tool. The certain and sure shortcut through the intellectual jungle where the more "answers" you get the more questions you end up with, is to be willing to love the Lord your God with all your HEART, mind, and soul and in order to do that, you have to come to the place where you believe, by faith, that God is good and always does what is right, and you therefore trust Him no matter what your {fallen corrupted} intellect whispers in your ear to the contrary. Best Regards. JAG
"It's in the arena of the HEART", says who? The heart is good at, and important for, a great many things, but it is not known to be very reliable or good at sussing out the truth. If you think the heart will find what I'm looking for, then maybe you have misunderstood what it is I am looking for. Well, how can you trust any of this, if you haven't provided any reliable justification for belief? It seems to me you're simply wrong, and no wonder, since you have taken no precaution to avoid being wrong. I on the other hand have (loosely speaking) taken roughly the same kind of epistemological precautions as we did in the onion example, and silly as it may be, it's proven true on every occasion.
Can you clarify what you refer to as "world"? Are you referring to planet? Humans? Planet plus all creatures and humans?
Not sure that I can. I probably mostly refer to the benefit of humans, but I'm aware that Jesus might interpret it differently. Either way, if he wants me to behave according to my answer, he better give some info that indicates which he's referring to.
Can you please describe what info or type of info would satisfy your request? What exactly is it that you need to hear?
Why do you hide yourself from everyone, and then make the belief the only way to avoid eternal torture? And why eternal torture?
