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Discussion in 'Member Casual Chat' started by Nightmare515, Jan 14, 2016.

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  1. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

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    How do ya get it to stop listing yer own likes (of other posters) in the Notifications?
     
  2. MrNick

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    I suppose if this is a place to ask questions.... Why would you even want to report a post?

    I think I have only reported 1 or 2, but that was because the poster was being so outrageous and disrespectful even my tolerant ass would have issued an infraction...

    Let people talk crazy.... I think it's funny.
     
  3. MrNick

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    Don't look at them...

    I got like 500 in a couple of weeks...

    I know I have way more likes then posts probably.
     
  4. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Yes Mods can get warnings/infractions from other Mods. Members have reported rule violations in posts from Mods before, we are not exempt from the rules even thought it is us who enforce them.

    I know that I've personally gotten a pretty stern "talking to" from a veteran Mod before for a post that was a pretty borderline Rule 2 violation.
     
  5. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Probably too much work, but have you guys considered a religion section with heightened rules so that say if someone wanted to discuss certain things from certain religious faith doctrines, they could do so without having to be trolled/derailed by "Skydaddy" type posts? I am not ubber religious but it seems to be that this site's religious discussions probably never really happen in the way people want because that forum seems quite the "Atheists Come Troll!!!!" pit. IDK if that is how it always is, but it certainly seems that way to me.
     
  6. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im with you except what happens to me for example is....my posts get reported and removed, then that forces me to retaliate in order to keep the argument and subsequent forum from becoming one sided. When people were bashing on republicans for something and I cited examples of dems doing the same thing, they complained and had my posts removed for being off topic. That led to (if you remember) a rash of democrats citing Bush in every single thread where Bush wasn't the topic. Therefore following forum guidelines I report the posts so that democrats on the forum are forced to abide by the same rules as are forced on me....by them. In other words....no more Bushs fault. After they got a taste of their own medicine and decided they did not want to lose the ability to say Bushs Fault in every thread, they stopped the thread tactic of mass reporting people for being off topic. Nice tactic on their part which would have worked if the rest of them let it continue by allowing our posts to be removed while letting them get away with the same thing they were complaining about. At one point there was a gang of about 5 trolling every thread and making a stink about being off topic in any thread where you brought Hillary up if she wasn't the topic. Those posts WERE removed and therefore fairness must swing both ways.
    I love hearing people speak their minds and even insult me provided I can insult them back. That being said, as much as I would indulge in that, its probably best that someone doesn't let me. Im ok with that, as long as its enforced fairly.
     
  7. MrNick

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    Oh I agree with you, which is why if I get another infraction before my old ones expire I'll be banned...

    It seemed as if a certain political party reported every post I made because they didn't agree with what I was saying... Yes indeed I did step over the line with some posts so I did deserve some infractions but others were handed to me because something I said was taken completely out of context...

    This isn't a "safe space" this is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing political forum and no one can physically hurt you from their computers....

    I think if someone gets butthurt it's their fault....
     
  8. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I ran into that when I first joined. I think it has something to do with the notification options you can check or un-check. Every now and then one of my own likes will trip the notification, but not usually. They still show in the window when you open it, but you don't get the tab notification thing.
     
  9. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I feel your pain.....I do think that some of the insults back and forth should be culled, including mine because some of them can go on for pages and its probably not fair to other readers who just want to read the topic and not run through my awesome comebacks to people attacking me.

    If we are looking for forum ideas I think we should add one more section. A section where members can go and say whatever they want (minus threats of course) to other members they have a problem with. This section will be voluntary and you have to accept the rules before entering. It will be the equivalent of "take it outside", that way we can get it off our chests then come back inside without disturbing everyone else.
    Im sure some people on the left would love to tell me off and I would absolutely love to hear what they really think as well.
     
  10. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep I agree, see my previous antithesis post about a relaxed rules section. If there was a section for heightened religion where the skdaddys were not allowed, Im ok with that, I would just stay out and stick to the threads where religious people solicit sky daddy arguments. Better for both sides and better for the mods. The sections could use a traffic light gradation. Red = Strict Rules, YELLOW = Standard Rules GREEN = Relaxed Rules.
    Id wager most people would still stick to the standard section but it would certainly pull troublesome posts from the yellow as some people will gravitate towards the green and the others the red leaving the problems in the yellow reduced.
     
  11. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Are you proposing maybe a subforum title "Religion" for actual religious discussion and a separate subforum titled "Religious Debate" or something like that?

    I can certainly bring it to the table because I can surely understand how annoying it can be for anti-religious folks to run in and derail any thread that just tries to discuss religion itself without a debate about whether or not God is real.

    That sort of thing would be up to the Site Owner though. We mods don't talk to the site owner ourselves, our Admins do that so we'd have to bring it up through the chain.

    We're currently working on doing something similar in the Gun Control Forum as well. As most have probably figured out by now the Gun Control Forum isn't just about gun control it encompasses any and everything firearm related. The members who frequent that forum seem to have enough respect and courtesy for each other to not derail each others threads. Members routinely have normal firearm discussions without interference from anti-gun members trying to derail the thread into a gun control debate or anything like that. I was actually pleasantly surprised at the amount of respect shown in there in that regard. Even without the Staff interfering it seems like members are able to discuss what type of pistol they think is best without somebody jumping in the thread saying "You shouldn't be able to have a pistol!" or anything.

    That forum managed to virtually moderate itself in that regard just by members showing a bit of common courtesy even without the Staff telling them to. For the most part anyway.

    So now it looks like we may need to turn our attention to the Religion forum and try to get members to show some common courtesy in there as well.
     
  12. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Well we really strive to keep a mature environment around here. I honestly believe that this forum is as popular as it is due to the fact that actually a pretty strict set of rules to follow unlike many other forums. We actually receive a lot of compliments from members saying how they appreciate that this forum actually has rules that are enforced. It keeps people from going off on tangents and bickering back and forth and whatnot.

    I feel like a "Unrestricted Rants" type forum would go against the vision that the Site Owner has for this forum. The underlying premise of this forum is that you don't have to like each other by any means, but have at least enough respect not to call people names or cuss them out or insult them and their beliefs or anything. Allowing members a free place to go at each other like that would be the complete opposite of what the Site Owner intends.

    It can be difficult, trust me I know. There are some members here that I just flat out do not like for whatever reason and would love nothing more than to tell them exactly which level of Hell they can go to. It becomes even more difficult as a Mod because I have to treat everyone equally and moderate everyones posts the same way. I'll admit there have been plenty of times when a member I didn't like would send up a report saying another member started insulting them and I would open it up and start literally laughing out loud. But I have to issue out a warning/infraction to the offender because regardless of who you are or whether not I personally agree with you the rules are rules. Even though I personally agree that member so and so IS a "dumbass idiot with the IQ of a 6 year old".

    So to be honest I highly doubt we will implement a rants forum. I will certainly bring it to the table but I doubt it will go anywhere due to the aforementioned reasons. Best advice I can give is to just ignore those people you want to virtual punch in the face. Nothing says you HAVE to respond to anybody here. Sometimes it can be very difficult to just "walk away" but it's the best thing to do on a forum like this. There is no "self defense" law on PF. If you get into a fight here, regardless of who started it, you BOTH go to jail. So instead of falling into that trap just let somebody swing at you and turn around and walk away and report them to the Mods. We'll handle it. If you swing back then we'll have to get you too even if the other guy started it first.
     
  13. AlphaOmega

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    LOL very hard for someone like me to do....that being said I cant say I disagree with your above comments as, I have been part of unrestricted forums, and since I find myself here more than there, I would have to ask myself why and I believe it to be because of the way this forum is on the average moderated. Ive also been part of strict forums.....which were ridiculous and is why there was like only 10 people there. Looks like happy medium it is. In either case, it is good that you guys actually discuss this openly as opposed to us just seeing rules enforced without really seeing whats going on behind the curtain. After I posted my previous comment I thought about it for a while and came to the conclusion that having an unrestricted section might waste my time as the entertainment factor at least for me is really in trying to get my point across within the rules.
     
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    Yep, so maybe people who wanted to discuss what a certain bible passage meant could do that, or comparative value discussions or something. Like I said, it am not particularly religious, but I do find discussions like that interesting to participate in sometimes. I too am guilty of throwing elbows in both directions at times in that forum, but I could see how say some people of faith might want to actually have debates/discussions on fundamentals like the Holy Trinity or something without being subjected to skydaddy comments or having their threads derailed on the evils of Christianity throughout history posts. Not just, of course for Christians, but that is where it mostly happens. Muslims could discuss the validity of the Hadith as some accept them as true and some do not or whatever, Buddhist could debate whether you rub the belly clockwise or counter clockwise (okay I am just trolling with that one because I don't really know what they might debate). Maybe even faiths could be discussed comparatively like a debate on the necessity of good works in Islam v. Christianity--more scholarly/intellectual discussions that don't even really involve the validity of religion at all. It would really be up to the OP to have to set the tone/frame their threads more sharply and the mods might actually have to look at that to decided whether or not posts afterwards were in proper context, which is where the extra work might come in. Just ideas that come to mind.
     
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    Get real, ever since I've been here there's been a rule against flamebaiting, and 90% of the threads started there by atheists have been flamebait.
     
  16. Windigo

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    If I refrain from all actual political posting and just suck up to mods and admin in "Smarty's Bar and Grill" can I become a mod.

    Joking aside when I and many other refugees from political crossfire first came to this forum during the reign SenaxFlatulus over the staff the forum rules were simple an concise. However, when leadership changed the rules ballooned. Its hard to identify the operative terms in the rules they are so verbose. There has been some trim back since the reign of Cyedd ended but will the rules be trimmed further.

    I think that the new titles rule is an example of over reach with the rules. If someone is trying to derail the thread over the title simply enforce the thread derailment rule. Writing a new rule in the hopes that it will prevent thread derailment is the wrong approach. its basically a punishing the victim philosophy.
     
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    insulting and offensive comments like this one for example -

    - to tolerate makes the forum a disservice; will mods ever put an end to it?
     
  18. AboveAlpha

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    That's sounds only like a good natured JOKE to me.

    Hell...your buddy DON just posted to me...."Anti-Russian pigs must die, then maybe. Now Syria is Russia's southern border. This is necessary to protect from US terrorists."......and you don't see ME complaining!!! LOL!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    sure, because you aren't Russian.

    i'm not supportive of that either.
     
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    My point is you will give yourself a stroke if you allow all these little things to bother you!!

    Take it with a grain of salt.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    never heard of rights activists get a stroke for example.
     
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    I think that is what hapens much of the time, one side reports someone on the other, then the other side does it back and on and on it goes
     
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    Are you kidding me???

    People who wrap themselves up in their work are always the first to STROKE OUT!! LOL!!!

    Only reason I haven't is because I run every day and make sure to have 2 shots a day along with a Multivitamin and some Joint Lubricant Supplements!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    The Mods won't help you. They also don't want to live in Russia.
     
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    Did you see the Frontline documentary on supplements this week? There's some pretty risky stuff out there. Make sure you get a good quality brand name product if you're going to take them.
     
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