Assault rifle ban will fail without objective definitions because...

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  1. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    I didn’t say you posted such a statement, but an opinion of it’s interpretation of what it implied.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you actually where around back you would understand you didn't need to enlist, people where being drafted when they graduated High School.
     
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  3. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Or, in my case after being raised abroad in one country of conflict, on returning to live in the US...
     
  4. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well and here I thought you were praising the people who went willingly . And yes I was 46 in the lottery and would have gone to Canada if I hadn't failed my physical when I graduated college.

    But perhaps you can give a rational reason why we were even in Vietnam. Haven't heard one yet except the idiotic domino theory.
     
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    Matters not, you took the easy way out and that speaks volumes about your morals.
     
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    The easy way out was flunking the physical? And I didn't do it from fake bone spurs either. And morals are not supporting an immoral war that you don't believe in. . Wussing out and participating because it was easier than is a moral failure. Now that is different from those who actually supported the war and went to fight which to me was fine. We all should follow what our conscience tells us not what the insane government tells us to do.
     
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    That's not grammar it's spelling.
     
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    Yea sure, a typical liberal answer.

    Not surprised though.
     
  9. CourtJester

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    Yes so you admit the armed civilian did not stop the shooting. The shooting in the church was already over and the shooter was heading to his car.

    It is proper to say Willeford helped stopped the shooter but incorrect to say he stopped the shooting.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well at least you are not willing to debate the statement or the morals involved. Just resorting to lame cliches is the best you can do?
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Some how when you keep using the word" you" and ascribing thoughts to me it is exactly the same thing. Of course you only do that because otherwise you would actually think and come up with a real position rather than refuting opinions that you made up and then attributed to me.
     
  12. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    A little bit of hypocracy?
     
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    According to the people inside, he did.
     
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    Incorrect he stopped the shooting by yelling at the shooter, who then noticed the guy who yelled was armed and ready to take him down, this changed the target from innocents to an armed person and the shooter decided to get the heck out of there to stay alive.

    I realize that doesn't fit your narrative, so you must deny the reality of what happened.
     
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    What I think is the civilian world took a military term, assault, and applied it to weapons some civilian's didn't like other civilians having. The AR stands for and is a legal or classification term for ArmaLite rifle. It isn't an assault weapon. If those opposed to civilians owning the AR-15 they better get the name right in their proposed legislation. The AR-15 by legal definition isn't an assault weapon. It is legally wrong and hyperbole made up definition to suit someone's political goals.
     
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    Except that wasn't what actually happened. The shooter had already left the church and was heading to his car. Now he may or may not have been on his way somewhere to shoot again but that is just speculation.
     
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    The NRA definition.
    • Assault Weapon
      Any weapon used in an assault (see WEAPON).


     
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    Totally incorrect.

    As he approached the old white chapel, he screamed as loud as he could, “Hey!” To this day, he’s not sure why—he knows that giving away your position is foolish, tactically—but friends inside the church later told him that when the gunman heard Willeford’s cry, he stopped shooting and headed for the front door.

    He stopped the shooting, get over it.
     
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    Hey if you want to believe a fiction no one can stop you.
     
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    Which is what you are doing.

    I guess that is why you are the Court Jester, a clown to amuse those in the forums.
     
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    https://www.4029tv.com/article/man-who-shot-texas-church-gunman-shares-his-story/13437943#

    From his own account.

    Willeford loaded his magazine and ran across the street to the church, not even taking the time to put on shoes. When Willeford saw the gunman, he exchanged gunfire.

    "He saw me and I saw him," Willeford said. "I was standing behind a pickup truck for cover."
     
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    His words. But if you can post where he actually talked about his yelling and stopping the shooting inside the church that will be worth reading. Otherwise I go with what he actually said.
     
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    Guess you didn't bother to actually watch the video where he talks about what happened. No yelling, no confronting the gunman in the church, etc,etc. But then I guess you know what happened better then Willeford.
     
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    Already posted his on the record comments outside of the MSM, but believe what you feel matches your narrative.
     

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