Attack on Capitol Building Pre-Planned

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  1. rahl

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    yes, it’s certainly a lie. As every single investigative body has shown you.

    Make sure you tell trumps DHS, trumps DOJ, trumps Attorney General, Republican Secretaries of State. Republican governors, every state election commission, every single court this was in front of that they are all wrong, and you are right lol
     
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    I do not believe Trump outright caused the riot. But he did catalyze it. And that began months before his rally speech that day did. His messaging, and the messaging of those who took up his cause, since the election has been building up to this point. He did not outright tell these folks to go to the capitol building and do what they did. But he took many steps towards giving his followers the impression that he condoned those types of dramatic chaotic actions.

    His whole election fraud charade led to the events of the 6th. And since that whole election fraud campaign was largely nonsense, and he knew it, that gives him some culpability for the events that transpired because of it.
     
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    And don't forget, that Trump sat there and watched the violence unfold, and did nothing for hours.

    1:11 pm, Trump finished his speech.

    2:10 pm, Police radio the Capitol has been breeched and lockdown ensues.

    2:24 pm, Trump tweets "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done ..." No mention of "peace".

    2:44 pm, rioter is shot entering a restricted area. Still no tweet from Trump except for the one criticizing Pence.

    4:17 pm, Trump finally tweets a video telling rioters they, "are very special" and still claiming the election was stolen, but
    for rioters to go home in peace.

    Trump watched, and people died. He never cared. He doesn't care now. He made no effort to stop the violence
    for two hours because he thought it might help him. It was only when he realized that it was a PR nightmare that
    he took action. End of story.
     
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    Did trump invite people to Washington before Jan 6th???? Was there something in one of those invitations about "be there, it'll be wild"??? Did idiot don jr. get the crowd started before daddy's talk on Jan 6th???
     
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    I agree but since the loser hasn't bothered with briefings in a very long time, that will be his out.
    "He's too stupid to follow the briefings so he couldn't have known"
     
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    Don't you know, Republicans never had abortions :)
     
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    I know, they are as pure as the driven snow!
     
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    Ah, but it isn't a defense. If he was told (perhaps via PDB) and didn't read/listen, that's still on him.
     
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    True but you know they will play that card.
     
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    What claims of fraud?

    Your feelings are hurt.
    You vote was stolen. They rigged the election.
    You've been lied to by the media.
    You need to fight for what is right.
    We will never concede.
    All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical left Democrats,
    Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore
    we will stop the steal.
    We went to 75 million and they say we lost. We didn’t lose.
    Just take a look, take third world countries. Their elections are more honest than what we’ve been going through in this country
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    Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Looks like they got riled up. Mob mentality here.
    Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do. This is from the number one or certainly one of the top constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. Now he is lying

    Here is the transcript of the speech, where HE riles up a crowd into a mob mentality. No one there herd the peaceful word.
    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6
     
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    And they are welcome to do so. Will just prove the point that lefties have been making for four years - Trump was too lazy to do his job.
     
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    Very true and really even they know it at this point but they have to at least try and save face.
     
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    It is, because he says he won and he clearly lost in a landslide. He claims the election was stolen from him, that is a bald face lie.

    There is some fraud in every election. It equates to around 0.00007%
     
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    So how many time's in your would does someone have to steal, lie or trick you to become a thief, liar or cheat?
     
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    Non responsive.

    there is no evidence of fraud. Every investigation has told you this. You are left with 1 of 2 options. Trump is lying to you, and you eagerly swallowed every last drop. Or trumps DHS, trumps DOJ, trumps attorney general, Republican Secretaries of State, Republican governors. Every single court this has been in front of (over 60), Republican appointed judges, Trump appointed judges and all 9 Supreme Court justices are conspiring to install a democrat into the presidency.
     
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    Maybe review the entire conversation a little more thoroughly before you get it wrong ;)
     
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    I have gotten nothing wrong. Every investigation has shown you that.

    oh I see, you are pretending to be obtuse and think that when people say no voter fraud, they mean zero. You are perfectly aware that voter fraud does occur, but in isolated and statistically irrelevant numbers.
     
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    Not even a single one. Wow Rahl, even for you that's some of the most amazing denial I've ever seen demonstrated and I have seen some things!

    Congrats, you are the master of your own realm, and I'm seriously-serious bro!!!
     
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    You do realize that Trump would have also known quite well of that report too, right? And so you realize he could have (and in fact did) "capitalize" on it by calling for the plan to be carried out, and in fact took steps to make it happen by holding his rally that morning and telling the thugs they had to "be strong or lose the country", right? And you know of the recorded words of one of the thugs as he stood on Capitol grounds during the siege, saying "the President invited us here", right?

    Riiiiiiiiiiight
     
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    I see I can't even chronologically quote post and expect you to UNDERSTAND it wasn't even geared to you but another poster :)
     
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    It’s cute you think you fool anyone pretending to be obtuse.
     
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    I know who it was geared toward. I was simply correcting you, like I always do.
     
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    Your feelings are hurt.
    You vote was stolen. They rigged the election.
    You've been lied to by the media.
    You need to fight for what is right.
    We will never concede.
    All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical left Democrats,
    Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore
    we will stop the steal.
    We went to 75 million and they say we lost. We didn’t lose.
    Just take a look, take third world countries. Their elections are more honest than what we’ve been going through in this country
    Crowd: (07:11)
    Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Looks like they got riled up. Mob mentality here.
    Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do. This is from the number one or certainly one of the top constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. Now he is lying

    Here is the transcript of the speech, where HE riles up a crowd into a mob mentality. No one there herd the peaceful word.
    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6

    And all that is just in 1 speech, the day he incited a riot on the Captiol.
     
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    All that and it's wrong too, and not even relating to anything I posted to you or the other guy :) Reading is hard!
     
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    I agree that Trump may be partly to blame if he instigated it but the people who entered the Capitol bear the most blame.
     
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