Australia arrests 183 for setting bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change

The Chinese played Obama and the EU like a cheap harmonica (mouth organ). The Chinese claimed that they would start to reduce CO2 emissions but they needed 30 years before they would begin to do so. And the morons then in charge bought it. Amazing.

 

So the obvious questions never occurred to you ?? Truly amazing.

 

So when I pile round bales of hay on an area after the ground freezes here, and remove them in say June, when exposed ground is thawed, and the ground where I remove the bales is still frozen, I have temporary discontinuous permafrost. And if I leave the bales all summer and the ground under them remains frozen, I have real honest to God discontinuous permafrost at 41 degrees north latitude?

I’m guessing discontinuous permafrost would be at the edges of permafrost then, correct? Like areas shaded by being on north slopes, etc.

Just out of curiosity, how thick are the layers of frost in the gold excavations? I see some measurements of permafrost being almost a mile deep in Siberia. I’d hate to be in the water pipeline trenching business there.

 

If trees are growing in an area, that area is not permafrost. It’s a physical impossibility.

 

What will?

What catastrophe?

 

Since the impeachment inquiry started, what have Democrats spent most time on?

 

Poor decisions made in a state of fear.

Increased agricultural productivity. Further decreases in percentage of income spent on food. More surplus to help feed those whose governments intentionally inhibit domestic nutritional security. Increased non food producing vegetation worldwide, leading to decreased soil erosion, increased precipitation, increased water holding capacities of soils and landscapes, and more “green living space” that promotes emotional and mental stability in children. I could go on, but you get the idea.

 

Poor decisions by producers right? What do their poor decisions have to do with government?

 

But just think of the rate per meter you could charge! And after that its up to the customer to keep the water temp in the pipes high enough to remain liquid. If they don't - more dollars for the repairs $$$ ka-ching !

 

This is your problem, you either don't read posts properly or you just completely MISS them altogether! I already corrected you earlier on the fact that I posted a link in a post that you replied to clearly without having seen the link in my post. HERE: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...eople-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html

 

I haven't seen such links. Certainly nobody has presented them to me directly in a reply.

 

Government is the only entity that can rectify any aspect of the situation. Government can prevent climate change, allowing perfect growing seasons again like existed in the past. Soon producers would have nothing to fear (since climate change is the source of every challenge a producer faces) and could make more rational decisions about timing of cutting and baling operations, resulting in fewer spontaneous combinations and subsequently less carnage in barns, fields, and communities.

So please, in the name of everything holy, don’t waste your time and energy on building sustainability into your personal life. Instead, vote for politicians who promise to save the planet. And spend hours “educating” other voters on the silliness of personal environmental stewardship and the importance of electing rulers who will force you to do things you are unwilling to do yourself.

 

What you have provided links to are articles which refute the claim that all of these arson arrests took place in
the current bushfire season. They do NOT refute that the arrests took place DURING THE WHOLE OF 2019!

No, 101 in QLD, 10 in SA, 24 in NSW, 43 in Vic and 5 in TAS, are ALL in the text within the article.
Although I'm not sure why that makes any difference to you. If you don't trust the source, you don't trust the source. Why does that suddenly change because a picture matches text?

 

Government can prevent what sort of climate change?

 

You’ve convinced me. Want to go in as partners? You send me a cashiers check to cover start up capital expenditures and I’ll take it from there....

 

The way I understand it they can make everything perfect again. Like it was before fires, hurricanes, excess rain/snow, insufficient rain/snow, etc. You know, the good old days.

 

I'm in. I'll send the cheque asap. Unfortunately since I am a Nigerian Prince and by Royal Decree I cannot send money overseas without someone who is a non-citizen going guarantor. I will send you $10 Million USD but require a 10% deposit first. Please respond soonest.

 

I know you! We’ve spoken on the phone a couple times. What a strange coincidence...

 

LOL. I've just figured out that you're being sarcastic! You troll!

 

Yep! Government can fix all of our problems! (According to leftist ideology.)

 

Correct. They develop shallow roots in soil above the permafrost.

Take note:

"Drunken trees, tilted trees, or a drunken forest, is a stand of trees displaced from their normal vertical alignment.​

This most commonly occurs in northern subarctic taiga forests of black spruce (Picea mariana) under which discontinuous permafrost or ice wedges have melted, causing trees to tilt at various angles.​

Tilted trees may also be caused by frost heaving, and subsequent palsa development, hummocks, earthflows, forested active rock glaciers, landslides, or earthquakes. In stands of spruce trees of equal age that germinated in the permafrost active layer after a fire, tilting begins when the trees are 50 to 100 years old, suggesting that surface heaving from new permafrost aggradation can also create drunken forests.​

Permafrost, which is soil (or rock) that remains below 0°C for at least two consecutive years, forms a solid matrix in soil which can extend to a depth of hundreds of meters. The permafrost prevents trees from developing deep root systems; for example, the black spruce that has adapted to permafrost soils has no significant taproot. In areas where the permafrost temperature is near the melting point of water, climate variations, or loss of surface vegetation from fire, flooding, construction, or deforestation, can thaw the upper extents of the permafrost, creating a thermokarst, the scientific name for a ground slump caused by melting permafrost. The thermokarst undermines the shallow root bed of these trees, causing them to lean or fall. Thermokarst lakes are surrounded by a ring of drunken trees leaning toward the lake, which makes these land features easily identifiable.​

Drunken trees may eventually die from their displacement, and in ice-rich permafrost, the entire drunken forest ecosystem can be destroyed by melting. Tilted trees that do not topple over may recover by using gravitropism to resume vertical growth, thereby taking on a curved shape. The reaction wood formed by this process can be studied using dendrochronology using annual growth rings to determine when the tree was subjected to tilting."​

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_trees

Seems so.

 

Eh, you don’t fool me. You were on to it from the beginning.

 

Yep, its a small world. Where's my money?

 

No, I am sorry you are wrong here. We could have made it so that there was no lasting damage had we set out to do things in the 80's when we were made aware of just how bad the situation is. Now there is no way we can ever go back to how things were in for instance the 50's or even the 80's. If we manage to get things in order the earth may eventually heal itself but it will likely take tens of thousands of years.

We are not seeing half of the damage we have already done. It will take another 20 or thirty years before we do so even if we put everything in now, the reality is that we are going to have a heck of a lot to deal with over the next years to get things sorted out - moving people from dangerous places and so on. Every day we continue not answering to what needs to be done means when things do stabilise we will be in an even worse position than we needed to be. We are pretty much at the end of the line now. People talk of the collapse of societies as pretty much inescapable. If we demand we live as we are now we will not live but if we can face what we have done and put everything we have into saving the planet it ought to be possible to create a world which can offer a decent life.

Frankly I do not believe we are going to do it and that means human extinction. As my daughter puts it we will either find a new quality way to live, we will learn to live in a much better way or it is the end. It is still our choice. For the children growing up now there will be no choice. We either do it or they do not see old age.

 

Well hang on a second. Let's say a bunch of terror attacks occurred which were suspected as possibly being Islamic attacks but were far from confirmed. And let's say that people on the left said that the attacks were committed by members of the far-right in order to promote the idea that Muslims are bad and shouldn't be allowed into the country. What would your reaction to that be?