Australia to sign up to China Bank>>MOD WARNING<<

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  1. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Many clever Australians saw the writing on the wall, in regards to which way Australia was heading. These clever people Advocated that Australians should be investing in their children future, by making sure they learn Chinese as a second language. Kevin Rudd (ex Prime Minister) confirmed these suspicions, when he addressed some important Chinese degelates in the Chinese language.

    90% of the crack whore population just laughted at these suspicions, and called these people conspiracy theorists, but I think the last laugh is now on them. Its a well known facts that the Chinese people like to do business conversing in their own language, and some will not do business at all if you cannot speak their language.

    The year is 2020, and welcome to Auschina. :roflol:
     
  2. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Don't fool yourselves people. Australia might be escaping form their American pimps, only to become China's whore. :roflol:

    Well, actually, if the Aboriginals get their way and get recognised in the constitution and we become a republic, we will become their $trillion dollar land whores.
     
  3. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Australia has lots of room to absorb significant Chinese immigration. That would really solidify Australia's integration into the Sinosphere.
     
  4. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Unless you are talking about China turning Australia into the planets strip mine, then where is the employment going to come from to absorb more immigration. Australia already has an estimated 20% youth unemployment rate, and those figures can dramatically rise in some regional areas. We all know Governments public released unemployment figures are at least 10% - 20% under the real unemployment rate.
     
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    The Chinese presence will create jobs for Australians in providing services to the Chinese.
     
  6. culldav

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    I don't agree with that, because under our current agreements with China & other foreign countries. Foreign owned companies in Australia are allowed to bring in workers from their own country to work in their companies based in Australia. The situation might be good for foreign workers being able to access work due to having their companies based in Australia, but what happens to the indigenous people in Australia wanting to get work?

    The situation has been happening for over a decade, whereby 457 unskilled foreign visa workers have been supplanting Australia's workers. Not every 457 visa worker arriving in Australia is a professional, who has certain skills that cannot be found in Australia.

    I think there are a lot of unemployed welders and gas-electricians in Australia, without having to import foreign 457 visa workers to replace them in our job market.
     
  7. axialturban

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    On the other hand, if you don't join in and have a share of the control, then China will still spend its money in the region - it might be safer to buy into it, so China doesn't have free reign so easily in meeting the region's development needs.
     
  8. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    In the relationship between a hegemon and a satellite state, the hegemon obtains economic benefits solely by virtue of controlling the geopoliticaleconomic system in the sphere of influence. The people of the vassal states become less than they once were. This helps the numbers pencil out.

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    That's called Deputy Sheriff Syndrome.
     
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    How so? It's just a multilateral development bank. Either your involved in running it or your not, and you cannot be involved in running it if your not involved in paying for it. Better to work together then apart.
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    Iran kicked out the US imposed dictator - we know the rest.
    Venezuela elected a government the US didn't like - the rest is also history.

    China, in both cases, trades with them, assisting their economies against US sanctions.
    Neither country was any threat to the US, but the US bullies them because they won't do as they're told any more.
     
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    You mean because the Islamic radicals wanted to side with the USSR as they knew the USSR was desperate to make a landline connection to the Indian Ocean (hence Afghanistan war), but that it didn't work out and instead the USSR backed Iraq in the Iraq Iran war???

    You mean the socialist government of Venezuela which was an ally of the USSR and has in the last 10 years tried to form strong military relations with Russia?

    You do realize the Cold War was a real thing and was 'the' driver of nations foreign policies for over 30 years.... and you choose to single blame for all that on the US???? What the f....

    .. the same 'Cold War' Putin is happy to nudge towards so long as he can get away with it, at the expense of innocent civilians and nameless volunteer soldiers he sends in.

    Both countries were are a threat to the US interests, and China conducts business without morals or agenda's besides cashflow.... is that a world you'd like to live in? At least China is not as communist as it used to be, but if you cannot see the connections there then you might be looking through red colored glasses.
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    And there we have the truth.
    There's no military threat, just that they're a threat to US cash, so the US tries to destroy them.
     
  13. Indofred

    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    Tut tut tut - you really must learn your history.
    The Islamic lot kicked out the US backed mass murdering dictator.
    As a note, you'll find the US also backed Saddam in the Iran/Iraq war.

    Again, I apologise if I've made you look silly and uninformed.
     
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    Hardly, nothing you've said contradicts anything I said. Iraq swapped sides and so did Iran, or at least Iran tried, but Iran decided it did not want to ally with the Soviets, so the USSR had to try going through Afghanistan instead. The Cold War is not the US's fault, and if anyone allies with its opponent during the Cold War the US could not ignore it.... much like Venezuela has been doing with Putin recently. The blame should lie with the USSR who oppressed its allies in Eastern Europe and pressed heavily on everyone else. They are a bully and are doing it again in Georgia, Ukraine and other areas because the Kremlin wants to grow its borders - hence the bad guy status.
     
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    You didn't answer the question, you just spewed out more America hate and China love.
     
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    As it stands, Australian politicians have turned their people into 20 cent whores, so what does it really matter which John (country) Aussies service?

    Maybe, if Australians voted in decent politicians who helped and looked after the welfare and best interests of Australia and Australians FIRST for a change, then the prostitute reputation might start fading over time.

    Hells Bells, Australian politicians (the people you vote into power) don't even believe Australians have the intellect to build and manufacture subs correctly, so they want to buy them from the Japanese. :roflol:

    Whats it really saying when the politicians you for into power think the population of the country is dumbarse and backward - the same thing I have been saying for years on this forum, but now its been confirmed by the politicians YOU vote for :roflol: :roflol:

    Why would politicians want to help the Australian people, who then want to allow refugee's into their country with IQ's of 59? :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    Hate, what hate?
    If making posts about America's rather dodgy past is a hate thing, perhaps you should rewrite American history.
    Perhaps you can tell us how many countries evil China has attacked since WWII, then mention the number America has attacked.
     
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    Name the countries China has attacked since WWII.
     
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    You just did it again.
     
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    You left out PM Abbott who is a British citizen first and Australian citizen second, who knows he can only be challenged by somebody with the money to Petition the High Court.

    Have you ever wondered by Abbott refuses to visit Britain, or produce his renunciation of British citizenship. Answer to enter Britain he needs to do so on his British Passport. He cant produce what he has not done. Go the LNP go!
     
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    Your using the grey area in the definition of 'attacked' to mislead the argument though. The actions of the US since WW2 were part of a mix of Cold War and global security actions. Lets take your attempt at a point seriously........... since WW2 China tried to take the Korean Peninsula, South East Asia, Taiwan and did take Tibet... the point is when it was with the pure intention of invasion and occupation.

    So the real question your afraid to ask is how many countries did the US invade to occupy since WW2... and we all know China took Tibet and it was only the efforts of the US which stopped it from taking the others listed.
     
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    Total rubbish.China did take Tibet, and there were short battles in two other countries, but the US has invaded, attacked, and committed terrorist atrocities in a large number of countries.
    You murdered Christian civilians in Indonesia in an attempt to interfere in their politics, carpet bombed Cambodia, a country you weren't at war with, and attacked a whole string of others.
    None were a threat to you, but you mass murdered there anyway.

    Perhaps you can explain how China is a greater threat to the world than America, a terrorist mass murdering country.

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    Your using the grey area in the definition of 'attacked' to mislead the argument

    "Attacked" means invaded, bombed, or committed terrorist atrocities in.

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    I'm sorry history is anti American.
     
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    The list is short, so I'll let you do that.
    I'll post a few US attacks.

    Greece - they directed the extreme right in the 1947 civil war.
    PHILIPPINES - directs war against Huk Rebellion.
    PUERTO RICO - Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce.
    KOREA - Invaded to support mass murdering dictator
    IRAN - overthrows democracy, installs Shah.
    GUATEMALA - directs exile invasion after new gov't nationalized foreign company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua.
    LEBANON - Army & Marine occupation against rebels.(moaned when attacked after they entered the war)
    PANAMA - Flag protests erupt into confrontation.
    VIETNAM - Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam; one million killed in longest U.S. war; atomic bomb threats in l968 and l969.
    CUBA - CIA-directed exile invasion fails.
    CUBA - Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union. (Forgetting the Soviets put them there because the US put them in Turkey)
    IRAQ - CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba'ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from exile to be head of the secret service. That worked well - not
    PANAMA - Panamanians shot for urging canal's return.
    INDONESIA - Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
    DOMINICAN REPUBLIC - Army & Marines land during election campaign. (Isn't democracy great - if the US doesn't attack you because the wrong person looks like winning)
    GUATEMALA - Green Berets intervene against rebels.
    DETROIT - Army battles African Americans, 43 killed. (Murders own citizens)
    CAMBODIA - Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos (you were never at war with them, but you murdered civilians anyway)
    OMAN - U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion.(What, you helped Iran invade someone???????)
    LAOS - U.S. directs South Vietnamese invasion; "carpet-bombs" countryside. (more mass terrorism using large bombers)
    SOUTH DAKOTA - Army directs Wounded Knee siege of Lakotas. (The US is really good at oppressing its own people)


    Want a few more?
    There are plenty to go at, then I can start on US support for terrorist actions such as bombing civilian airliners.
     
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    Luis Posada Carriles
    Noam Chomsky

    Google those two, and see what America really is.
    In fact, America is the greatest danger to world peace, and easily to world's worst terrorist nation.
     
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    Name the countries China has attacked since WWII.
     

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