Banks Are Devising Ways to ID Mass Shooters Before They Strike

Not legally, privately or not.

 

It does not matter whether you agree with it or not. It is now the controlling precedent.

And those laws are now being challenged (successfully) in court as well:

New York's Prohibition of Guns on Private Property Deemed Unconstitutional (reason.com)

U.S. judge blocks parts of New York's new gun law (nypost.com)

 

You cannot adhere to "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" if any Tom, Dick, or Harry can take your gun away.

 

It ain't being reported to anyone. I have no problem with banks or credit card companies recording transactions. I have deep problems with their telling Tom, Dick, Harry, or the government about it.

 

I don't understand the importance of the point. People can do illegal things on the internet easy so therefore ...what exactly? What makes it less easy for someone to get an illegal gun through the internet in any other country? Is there a place that the silk road does not travel?

 

The banks have that information on you when you open up that account and provide your SSN, ID, and other documentation. That is at the beginning now. And it is a pretty standard best practices act by most major banks and most community banks. Second, no one is talking about stalking here. That is something completely different. What we are talking about is gun purchases used for nefarious reasons. And in that set of circumstances, there are specific ways a bank can tell.

Do you mean a perfect legally purchased firearm in the Uvalde Shooting, the Walmart Shooting, the las Vegas shooting, etc?

 

It is a person to person sales, which no background checks are required, among other things. All you are looking for is simply cash on the barrel for the firearms and with as few questions as possible.

 

Private sales are perfectly legal. It is how most criminals obtain their firearms. And since there is no requirement for a background check or other reasonable questions to be asked, the person selling it is just looking for the money and making sure it is not the FEDs who are purchasing the firearm. And that is it. But that is how most gun manufacturers operate too.

 

Yes. Shooter after Shooter just like terrorist after terrorist were Known Wolves. It's more of this WOKE DIE crap.

There have been over 600 mass shootings in the US to year to date. Nearly all used a pistol, not an AR-15. Nearly all were committed by Blue City Felon Gang members operating openly in our Blue Cities who are already prohibited by law from possessing a firearm.

Once again, it's not about preventing needless deaths, it's about controlling their political opponents.

 

A private sale to a prohibited person is not a perfectly legal sale. That's where you're confused. I mentioned morons before and you seem to think that a moron selling a weapon to someone they don't know is legal.

It's not. Nowhere. That's why people use ffls to transfer a private sale even when it's in their own state unless it's a relative, neighbor, or good friend.

You know the person, or you broker the responsibility to vet the buyer before the transfer takes place. The types of sales you think are happening are illegal.

 

No, there are not. That's what you don't seem to comprehend. Banks have no way of telling if a customer purchased a gun for perfectly lawful activities or for some other, nefarious purpose. I don't know where you ever got the hare-brained idea they did, but they simply don't have that data available to them. Heck, they don't even know what the thing(s) their customers purchased was/were. Retailers aren't sending a copy of the receipt, or an itemized list of goods purchased, to VISA. None of that information gets passed along to the credit card processor. They simply know the merchant, dollar amount, and date and time of the transaction. If you believe they can accurately identify mass shooters from those pieces of information, you are simply delusional.

 

How can a bank tell if a gun is being purchased for nefarious purposes?

 

Absolute horsepucky.
it is impossible for a bank - or anyone else - to determine intent - especially to the level of probable cause - from an electronic record of sale.

 

Good evening, sir. I'm Officer F. Beer from the department of pre-crime. I have a receipt here from Best Buy for an amount of money that could have been used to purchase a new internet ready laptop. Considering all the illegal ways you might use this alleged laptop, we're going to have to ask you some questions about your intended activity.