BBC Producer: I Can Prove That The Douma Hospital Scene Was Staged

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  1. Horhey

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    There were no fatalities, as was later discovered.
     
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    So what killed those children if NOT chemical weapons? They are limp not bloodied.

    Assad's father gassed thousands.. What makes you think Assad wouldn't do the same?
     
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    Really? According to whom?
     
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    Robert Fisk and the BBC Producer.
     
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    I don't believe either.. They offer NO proof or any explanation. How do you get toddlers to fake it and go limp?
     
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    I am referring to the Douma hospital scene. The jihadis had access to chemical weapons.
     
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    Really? Is there proof the jihadis had chemical weapons? How were they delivered? You may want to take a long, hard look at the Assad family and their history.. They are like the mafia ..

    You can't reinvent Assad anymore than you can reinvent Gaddafi.
     
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    November 04 2013

    The main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) has raised questions over the seizure of chemical material, along with barrels of unidentified cargo, in vehicles which attempted to illegally cross the border from the Turkish side to the Syrian side over the weekend.

    “One person has been arrested. Barrels which are suspected to contain chemical material were inside the vehicles. Traffic was from Turkey to Syria. Do not be surprised if a statement suggesting that the arrested person is a Syrian spy comes from the government,” CHP Deputy Chair Faruk Loğoğlu said Nov. 4.

    Turkish patrol border units seized around one ton of sulfur in addition to eight sealed barrels, the contents of which were unknown, from a convoy trying to illegally enter the country from Syria on Nov. 2, the General Staff announced in a statement posted on its official website.

    The convoy of three vehicles refused to stop as it attempted to illegally cross the border near the southeastern Turkish town of Reyhanlı, according to the statement.

    Para-military police were forced to shoot out the tires of the vehicles to stop them, and three drivers jumped out and fled in the direction of Syria. One of them was arrested, the General Staff said, without specifying the nationality of the suspect. The haul of sulfur and the other unidentified substance will be examined by a team of army specialists, the statement said.

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/chemicals-seized-at-turkeys-syria-border-raise-questions-57355
     
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    OP

    Right from the start of the Douma 'attack' I've been saying it was staged; not from any great insight, but from watching the incident itself on BBC tv news: I especially recall that while they were hosing down that youngster with water, a) the poor kid was so obviously wondering WTF was going on rather than frightened for his life, and b) there was another kid just in shot behind an adult who, for a fraction of a second of seeing his facial expression, looked perfectly bemused by all the activity, and he was certainly not in the least distressed.
     
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    I remember when this chemical stuff was confiscated. Why do you think it was for the jihadis?
     
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    Well, the Guardian is hardly to be believed since the changes to the Scott Trust. These days it has to be treated with great suspicion.

    Besides that, has it ever produced any solid evidence to back its claims that Assad was responsible for Douma? No. And the OP was right in citing Robert Fisk's article (and other links too) that blew this fake story out of the water. All power to his elbow for doing that.
     
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    Why shoot! That there is just the same old crap on a different day. The U.S regime said it had "proof" of WMD's in Irak while the UN Inspection Team said, "There ain't none!". That makes the score about 6 - zilch against the American regime. Them there Yankees ain't doin' too good when it comes to gittin' their facts straight. They be relyin' most ways on what ya' call "here-say" and makin' up stories. That's one hell of a way to run a country. Most of what the American regime says about the outside world shakes the screws loose on the Truth-O-Meter:

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    In regard to this story I reference below the blog of Col. Pat Laing. This blog is always worth reading and especially so the comments below each story. Posters there, along with Laing (Lang) himself are former members of the US and Brit intelligence community.

    https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2019/02/harper-sst-was-right-there-was-no-douma-sarin-attack-bbc.html

    F
    or those unfamiliar with the blog, SST = Sic Semper Tyrannis meaning "thus always to tyrants" and said to be attiributed to Brutus during the assassination of Julius Ceesar.

    "Harper" refers to another (associated) blogger who had an article on 25 April 2018 thus:

    https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/harper/

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    lso referenced in Harper's blog above was the British Army Brigade 77, previously SAG - Security Assistance Group - a psyops brigade that focuses on influencing social media sites (and discussion forums I suspect too) which is why they are known as "facebook Warriors" and "Twitter Troops".

    For those who have the time and/or inclination I strongly recommend reading the comment section of both blogs as there are some particularly knowledgeable people who post there.

    And finally the following may be of interest: https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/how-britain-engaged-covert-operation-overthrow-assad
     
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    How do you get toddlers to act limp?
     
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    What do you think the Brits want in Syria?
     
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    Regime change in line with Obama's goal.

    I have posted the below several times but it bears reposting, I think:



    Also:

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/how-britain-engaged-covert-operation-overthrow-assad

    This is why UK Plc financed the White Helmets:

    https://assets.publishing.service.g...hment_data/file/652400/FOI_0749-17_letter.pdf
     
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    Regime change? That is pitifully ignorant. Do you know anything at all about Syria? Do you know that it was a failed state from 2005-2011 before Assad started killing civilian protestors?

    LOL.. What the hell do you think the US wanted? What do they have to gain by regime change in Syria?
     
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    Re Mayday Rescue referenced in foregoing FCO letter re White Helmets is additionally funded as follows and published quite openly by them:

    MAYDAY RESCUE

    Donors

    Funding for Maydays programmes comes from generous grants from the Governments of:

    United Kingdom – Conflict Security and Stability Fund.

    Kingdom of Denmark – Ministry of Foreign Affairs


    Kingdom of The Netherlands – Ministry of Foreign Affairs


    Germany – Ministry of Foreign Affairs


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    https://www.maydayrescue.org/content/donors

    The White Helmets themselves are very open about their funding listing Mayday Rescue as their "partner".

    https://syriacivildefense.org/our-partners
     
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    The evidence is before your eyes and as clear as day. The fact you do not care for it is your problem Margot, not mine.
     
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    That he had every reason to not do so. We'd announced we were leaving and he wanted us to leave.
    For the sake of argument, and only for that sake, lets say those kids didn't asphyxiate but were gassed. My guess? Those with an interest in keeping us there did it themselves.
     
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    Can you make the same argument for the tens of thousands of Assad's barrel bombs?
     
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    No. Are they forbidden by international law or diplomatic agreement? I will state US involvement there is a crime. There is no Congressional declaration of war, no clear and immediate danger from Syria to the USA justifying our presence there. And we aren't going to be able to bomb people till they like us.
     
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    How do you feel about the 6 million Syrian refugees?

    Barrel bombs are forbidden under international law.

    You must not know about the Assads or the history of Syria. You wouldn't say such ridiculous things.
     
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    I am inferring from your writing that you do think we can drop bombs on people till they like us. You are wrong.

    As for this being a gas attack think of it this way. Say you are a robber. You plan to rob someone. You would at least wait for the nearby cop to leave before doing so. In this metaphor, the cop says loudly, "nothing to see here. I guess I'll leave" and then before the cop does leave, you jump out from a hiding place and club someone over the head in front of the cop. It just isn't going to happen.

    EDIT: http://www.weaponslaw.org/glossary/barrel-bomb "Barrel bombs are not specifically prohibited under international law."
     
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