Begging For Help: NM Gov Changing Her Tune On Immigration

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its kind of like when Obama pulled out of Iraq and then went back in.

    These democrats are not strategic thinkers.
     
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    Not, it's not like that at all.
    I don't remember those tweets from Obama.

    2+ yrs, with the 1st 2 yrs under R control, what has tRUMP accomplished? A tax cut for the rich.
    Great job, Make America Greedy Again.
     
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    Its not the final verdict on the state

    But she had no reason to lie to me

    So it was her honest opinion
     
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    In the grand scheme of things, means nothing. Just 1 person out of millions, opinion.
     
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    With a ding-a -ling governor like the one NM has I duspect she is not the only one
     
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    It is not up for debate which party has been against increasing border security.

    I never said republicans were blameless. You seem to think , by my conservative leaning posts, that I just agree with republican politicians. Nothing could be further from the truth. They a joke too but when it comes to border security today (not 50 years ago) the left has been against it.

    Keeping illegals out limits crime. I never said it was easy or could be done at a 100% success rate, but doing that will save lives.

    Legal citizens are already here which is why that comparison is 100% invalid. You can't remove them before they commit the crimes like you can with illegals. It is why trying to compare the two is invalid.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
     
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    As it turns out, not only was Vargas-Ortiz residing it the U.S. illegally, but he had already been deported back to his home country of Mexico at least eight times, according to a statement from an immigration spokeswoman. The suspect had also been operating under an alias—his real name being Antonio Vasquez Vargas.
     
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    2011 – The Department of Homeland Security completes 649 miles of barriers, including 350 miles of pedestrian fencing, at an estimated $6.5 million per mile, and 299 miles of vehicle barriers that cost approximately $1.7 million per mile. But $1 billion spent on a pilot program for “virtual surveillance” in Arizona yields only 53 miles of coverage. With the backing of the DHS, the Obama administration cuts funding for the rest of the hyper-expensive “virtual wall.”
    Obama was prez in 2011. So the BS the d party is against border security is just that.
    That is nothing but a RW talking point lie.

    They have been a joke, your words, as much as the d party, but up until now, you only blame one party.
    What more do you want on border security? The wall is mostly useless. Over, under, around, and through are all still options as they are today.

    Illegal immigrants are already here, and have been for 50+ years. To say the solution to illegal immigrant crimes is to not let them in is not a solution. They are here as much as legal citizens are here. And they are not going to be leaving anytime soon. So, it's not an invalid point.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
     
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    Point?
     
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    Fingerprinting and sending them back is pointless...
     
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    "What are you going to do when thousands of illegals are dropped off in your town or city and they’re allowed to roam freely among you neighbors, your homes, your businesses and schools?"

    Blame Trump.
     
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    So is sending them back?
    What do we do? Lock them up in our prison system?
     
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    Im not talking about 2011. I'm talking about the political climate right now. The left is against border security as evidenced by their inaction.

    Yes some are already here.....so what? Do you have a point with that statement? Because some are here we should jyst keep letting more in? Seriously, why on earth does it matter that some are already here? I don't expect an answer to that one.

    That does NOT change the fact that keeping them out (the ones not currently here) will save american lives. That you can't even touch this subject is why we're done.

    I'm not continuing a conversation with someone who can't admit things that are blatantly obvious and that will save american lives.

    The well being of this country and it's citizens should come first. When you show that you get this, then we'll continue.
     
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    Build a wall, then send them back.

    But yes, I would also think stiff prison sentences would do the trick.

    Decriminalize marijuana and now you've got all kinds of room in prison.

    But that's for another thread.
     
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    Seems they feel a 'moderate' Republican is one who prefers open borders.
     
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    How about blaming those who won't finance a wall, claim a wall is 'immoral' and that there is only a 'manufactured crisis' at the border?

    Why not blame this doddering politician and her party?

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...going_to_fund_trumps_immoral_border_wall.html
     
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    It was a joke, people. It would be (nearly) impossible to get 50 people into two minivans, and a fender bender shouldn't kill anyone. And yes, I'm aware of the reality. It's estimated that 50% of the drivers in Miami don't have driver's licenses, never mind insurance.
     
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    Its exactly like Obama.

    Come and go, and then come again.

    Its brilliance, just like when he called ISIS the JV team.

    Im using the word brilliance sarcastically.

    Obama is such a chump he thinks ISIS is one of his hometown Chicago gangs.
     
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    When something fails "at least 8 times", democrats imagine its still a possibility.

    Different thresholds for different (and weaker) folks.
     
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    Hey, don't knock Joisey. We have our moments but for the most part, we try to be a kinder, gentler state. Our feelings get hurt real easy.
     
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    Trump is creating this issue
     
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    Obama did not send refugee applicants back across the border

    He practiced catch and release the same as trump because thats the law our idiot politicians in congress made
     
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    It was a crisis that they fought for back then. Couldn't get 60 votes in the Senate - cuz Dems suck. It has grown progressively worse since then. For anyone to not see the current crisis takes a special kind of blinders.
     
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    Illegals commit crimes at a vastly higher rate.
     
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