Beginners Guide To The 9/11 Conspiracy

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Last time I checked steel is not cast iron LMAO
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    Cast iron is a variant of steel koko. The only difference is that it contains 2% more carbon and has a lower melting point.

    Steel melts at 1425C - 1540C. Cast Iron melts at 1175C - 1290C

    But again, you avoid the question, for a 4th time.



    Koko, answer the questions;

    1. Why any controlled demolition would leave fires and molten metal in the rubble pile?

    2. Explain why this should not occur from 220 stories of building falling from massive fires?
     
  3. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    what makes you think it was the controlled demolition that left the molten steel?
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    Is that not what you think? Why then are you so puzzled over its discovery? Why bring it up at all?

    You didn't answer question number 2.
     
  5. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    what I think is irrelevant, only the facts are relevant and troughers seem to have the market cornered for a vacancy of facts.

    you didnt explain it.
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    Stop dancing around the questions.

    1. Why do you believe a controlled demolition would leave fires and molten metal in the rubble pile?

    2. Explain why this should not occur from 220 stories of building falling from massive fires?
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    then stop begging the question.
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    So you acknowledge you refuse to answer? You cannot explain why molten material would be found after a controlled demolition, and you cannot explain why it shouldn't occur after 220 stories of building fell due to large fires.

    But yet your happy to bring it up as somehow supporting your theories of a conspiracy.

    Unwillingness to explain yourself is equal to defeat. I think you know you are wrong.

    If not, prove me wrong. Answer the questions and stop dancing.
     
  9. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    wow all those strawmen in one post!

    your getting almost as good as patriot, speaking of what happened to him anyway.

    Hmm I dont recall saying anything about a conspiracy, cite it.

    I said there was plenty of molten steel or for all I give a damn plenty of molted yellow-white flowing stuff that was hot enough to melt (*)(*)(*)(*).

    Its not up to me to explain it its up to you and your pals at nist. Trying to cover up your failure to perform your duty that we paid for is fiduciary breach and breach of trust. THe whole lot of ya should be fired and banned from any public job.

    So Mr. nist why was that molten steel there? YOu must have investigated it didnt you
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    look at that here is another molten and its not white.


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    and it flows too!
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    It's obvious why it was there, I don't need NIST to tell me, common sense says huge fires in buildings = huge fire in their debris pile, easily hot enough to melt metal. That's a no braining. You're trying to spin it into a conspiracy, but fail at even answering the basic questions because you know you cannot link it to any sort of conspiracy, at all. Failure is obvious with you koko.
     
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    What is your source for these?
     
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    Yes, shame on you Koko, you know you have to have an "official" stamp on everything to make it valid.
     
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    For all we know, they are smelting lead or making glass.
     
  15. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    changes nothing
     
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    leftysergeant New Member

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    Source it or don't complain if we call it irrelevant. We do not know what that substance is.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Too easy:

    It wasn't any more sophisticated than any hijacking and the claim that US airspace is the most heavily defended airspace in the world is a laugh. At that time there was no defense withing the lower continental States. All defense at that time was directed offshore.
     
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    Every war is false flagged (Gulf of Tonkin admitted)so what makes you believe the "war on terror" is any different?
     
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    leftysergeant New Member

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    Absurd proposition. The Japanese did attack Pearl Harbor, and AQIM really was a foreign presence in Mali. ObL really did want us bankrupted and impotent. You are entitled to an opinion, but not your own separate reality.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That wasn't the question.
     
  21. PPP

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    World War 2, 1939-1945:A U-boat torpedo hit the ocean liner Athenia near Britain with some 1100 passengers, of which 311 were Americans.The sea was calm and only 118 people on board lost their lives.The ship was sunk because it behaved like a military transport,blackened out and zigzagging.This incident wasn't enough to precipitate war,and the Germans also refused to be provoked by several American acts of war.Americans confiscated German merchant ships,and Americans started to support the British with various lend-lease items,US volunteer pilots joined the RAF and some RAF pilots were trained in the US,US gave the British 50 old but usable WW1 destroyers and 20 modern torpedo boats, tanks, light bombers, fighter aircraft like P-40s and so on.American destroyers also escorted the convoys bound to Britain,and attacked German U-boats even far away from those convoys.The US did not maintain a neutral stance attitude towards the warring nations.


    The US naval intelligence, chief of Japan desk planned and suggested"8 insults", which should bring Japan into war with the US. President Roosevelt executed this plan immediately and also added some other insults, enraging the Japan.The most serious one was a total blockade of Japanese oil imports,as agreed between the Americans, British and the Dutch. FDR also declared an all-out embargo against the Japan and forbade them the use of Panama canal, impeding Japan's access to Venezuelan oil.
    The Flying Tigers volunteer air group successfully fighting the Japanese in China with some 90 fairly modern P-40Bs was another effective provocation that is not generally acknowledged by historical accounts of World War 2,most of which fail to mention any air combat action prior to 7th December 1941.But at that time the Japanese had already had lost about 100 military aircraft,mostly bombers, to the Tigers.After Pearl Harbor these squadrons were some of the the hardest-hitting ones in the US service.


    The attack on Pearl Harbor followed some 6 months later.Having broken the Japanese encryption codes,the Americans knew what was going to happen,when and where, but the president did not dispatch this information to Pearl Harbor.Americans even gave their friends the British 3 Magic decryption machines which automatically opened encrypted Japanese military traffic.But this same information was not available to the commanders of Hawaii.The movement of the fleet was also visible in the very effective radio direction finding network. Japan had an alliance with Germany,and the Germans upheld their promises by declaring the war against the USAright after the Japanese declaration.


    Two scapegoats, the navy commander Admiral Husband Kimmel,and the army commander Lt. General Walter Short were found incompetent and demoted as they were allowed to retire.Short died 1949 and Kimmel 1958. In 1995, the US Congress re-examined this decision and endorsed it.Then in 2000 some archive information came to light and the US Senate passed a resolution stating that both had served in Hawaii"competently and professionally".In 1941 they were denied vital information,and even on presidential orders purposefully mislead into believing that the Japanese feet could be expected from the southwest.These commanders have yet to be rehabilitated by the Pentagon.
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    Attempting to sum up a precursor to war in 3 paragraphs is a very, very stupid thing. You missed out some very important details, but then that would ruin your pseudohistory wouldn't it?
     
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    You planning on citing that copypasta or were you planning on taking credit for it?
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Just...trust him. It's legit. Things get jumbled when sources, and what have you are involved.
     
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    Nice try, Stan Kyle,LOL.............
     

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