Ben Shapiro debates Piers Morgan on Guns

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right now a different approach to debating guns is on
    display.By Breitbart member,Ben Shapiro.
    He is using a philosophical approach.Exactly the approach I
    felt was necessary by Alex Jones.
    Yet Jones preferred his " Hillbilly Approach " which does in fact
    generate hysteria and ratings.But Jones' approach will no doubt
    do nothing to convert any Liberals or Piers lemmings.
    Jones had an opportunity to convert non-believers but chose
    to be more a Wild West show.
    I think Mr.Shapiro did a yeomans' job of making the points Alex Jones,
    who I like,failed to make.
    That Piers Morgan and Liberals alike are merely taking a convenient
    opportunity to again demogogue an Issue,an issue that naturally
    is cherished by most all good Republicans and Conservatives.
    The Bill of Rights.Our 2nd Amendment.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A quite impressive Interview that reaped a few important results.
    Shapiro or Mighty Ben managed to have Morgan say a few things
    that could easily pigeonhole Piers further as a snooty Anti-american.
    When Shapiro in the throes of hearty debate handed over to Morgan as
    a gift a small book and suggested he should read it,it's the Constitution.
    Later on Morgan,feeling insulted over who knows what got snooty saying :
    " You come in here,brandish your little book as if I don't know what's in there "
    " My little book? That's the Constitution of the United States.It's our founding
    document,Piers " retorted the very aggressive and fast-talking Shapiro.
    One can be aggressive and also manage to trip up Morgan,in order to
    demonstrate as Shapiro did,just who are the real Bullies in this fight over guns.
    Breitbart.Com has the transcript and full Video of last night's encounter
    with Mr. Snooty (*)(*)(*)(*)tington.
     
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    The way to take a liberal down in a debate is to use logic. It dissolves their emotional reasoning like magic. You can see it here at PF on a daily basis.

    When you see a liberal acting like an idiot, backtrack a post or two and you will often see them challenged with logic.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    There are radical extremists on both sides of the "gun" issue that distort the issue completely.

    Dispite the extremist "pro-gun" postion President Obama does not oppose the Right to Keep and Bear Arms nor do most liberals oppose the 2nd Amendment. There are some extremists, such as Piers Morgan, that may advocate against the Right to Keep and Bear Arms but they are a part of the extremist group of liberals.

    At the sametime we see extremists on from the pro-gun side such as those that signed a petition to have Piers Morgan deported for exercising the First Amendment's protected Right of Freedom of Speech. I would argue that there is no point for the 2nd Amendment if it's not to protect our other Rights such as Freedom of Speech. A person cannot logically support the 2nd Amendment while opposing the 1st Amendment as that is nothing but hypocracy.

    I also see absurd position from both sides of the issue. Banning firearms based upon appearance or limiting the magazine capacity will do nothing to prevent gun violence nor would it reduce the number of victims of gun violence. At the sametime putting armed police officers in our schools won't reduce mass killings or the number of victims of gun violence either. Both are stupid proposals coming from the extremist elements on both sides of the issue.

    There are effective steps that can be taken of course. Providing a better process for identifying those that would commit heinous acts like mass killings because of mental instability so that they can be treated (and denied the Right to Keep and Bear Arms based upon a decision from the court) can reduce the problem of gun violence, We can also address the general culture of violence in the United States and that would be effective but the violence starts well before someone would commit acts of murder. Child abuse, spousal abuse, and animal cruelty are all symptoms of the culture of violence we have today in America and all of those contribute to the eventual acts of murder by some in our society.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Video is up on Drudge and also Breitbart.
    Ben Shapiro did exactly that.He used logic,reason and philosophy
    to defend his position and also profile how the Left accommplishes
    this ... that being to BULLY.
    Obama Bullied to get his Stimulus Package { used " Urgent " over and over again }
    ObamaCare was shoved down the throats of Americans by Leftists Bullying,
    going so far as to Fake the use of the " N " word.Which Breitbart proved
    was never uttered.Yet the Bullies on the Left acted in Defiance of that
    Proof.That indeed No " N " word was heard.It was all made- up and crafted
    to embarass and diminish anyone opposing ObamaCare.
    Same exact approach used today by Leftists ... to Diminish any American
    thru Bully tactics for daring to defend a cherished right such as the 2nd Amendment.
    It's really that simple.
     
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    You mean he's not going to use the "Threaten armed revolt and then challenge the interviewer to a fist-fight" approach Alex did?

    Durn shame. :)

    - - - Updated - - -

    Has the video been "breitbarted"?
    :)
    ("Shirley Sherrod" for those with poor memories)
     
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    Which begs the question as to why the NRA is upset with their meeting with
    Biden yesterday.Because there was little to NO focus paid to steps in order
    to prevent another Sandy Hook.Plus it was more a lecture exercise by Biden
    asking the questions.
    Meaning,Biden was NOT doing as originally intended.Setting up a Task Force
    to curb gun violence ala a Sandy Hook.It was used to feel out ways to
    eliminate gun ownership,pure and simple.
    Our Government and especially this current WH are Liars.
    Just like the Debt Commission { Simpson-Bowles }. It was set up to
    give Obama wiggle room as if he cares about our Debt.Obama IGNORED
    the findings in Simpson-Bowles.Mitch McConnell explained it on
    - Meet the Press -.So it's not me saying it.Obama has also purposedly
    refused to even use the word debt up until the contrives use of
    our " Fiscal Cliff ".When asked on Letterman about our debt and where
    it stands last spring,Obama acted dumbfounded.He didn't know where our
    National Debt stood and acted as if he could care less.He has governed
    as if he could care less.Obama has outspent all presidents before him
    combined up to George Bush.
    I doubt you'll see any Lamstream report on that Factoid.
    This Country is being brainwashed,managed and manipulated.
    No finer example than how the Left will pull out ALL the stops to help
    Obama acheive another Historic Victory.A Victory over Gun Ownership.
    Don't get Stooged again.
     
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    Morgan's arrogance certainly shines through.
     

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