Beto O'Rourke interrupts Texas Gov. Abbott's press conference: "You're offering us nothing"

Nah he’s taking a different angle now.

 

Hypothetical

Notice how not one person until this post has experienced a mass shooting or lost a loved one to one?

I'm someone will create an account to fill this anomaly or someone will CLAIM so now Anyhow, mass shootings are pretty rare, NOW gangland murders, HELL you can literally count the death toll of say Chiraq all day and hourly on weekends!!

 

Well, for starters, I don't draw attention to myself or my situation. I don't buy massive TV's or expensive watches. I don't start shouting out aggressively in public. I keep to myself and my small circle of family and friends.

When I do go out, I stay in well lit areas and I don't linger. I try to go somewhere with other people, there is safty in numbers. I avoid going to places where I expect trouble.

When I am in public, I pay attention to what is going on around me and adjust what I do accordingly. I keep an eye and ear on people that are being loud and boisterous.

I have only had one pair of people approach me in my life threatening violence, and they did not have a gun. My family was with me at the time, and the person's friend de-escalated the person threatening violence, as they were outnumbered.

If they did have a gun? Guess I would give what they want. My life, and the lives of my family are more important than material possessions that could eventually be replaced.

And don't get me wrong, I am fully aware every situation is different. If guns are really needed, I am okay with them as a LAST resort.

I am not convinced that many people are using guns as a LAST resort.

 

Is that how he manipulates the leftists, ANGLES How insulting he thinks so little of his base!

 

Okay, so why not admit to it out loud?

Why not publicly throw out there that you are okay with the possibility that more and more innocent people that either cannot, or will not use a gun will die? Why is a gun the ONLY real answer?

Are you afraid of possible negative feedback and reprocussions for expressing this view?

How do you feel about the people that want to restrict guns, personally?

I can say that I feel that people that want to solve this problem by filling up the country with guns are putting the people that don't want or can't use guns at greater risk, as well as the people that use it.

I am just giving an example here, but if I was really as bad and 'insane' as gun lovers would make me out to be, and I wanted to take out gun owners, I would never attack them head on, armed only with a gun and some body armor. That is stupid.

I don't WANT to have to own a gun and use it to be safe. I will never support turning our schools into fortresses and either forcing teachers to be guards, or entrusting my kids safety to strangers I don't know that are not accredited or trained.

You may not care. That is your right. But when EVERYONE stops caring? That's when the country ends.

Thank you for your time.

 

He probably still wants confiscation but he didn’t mention it in the clip I saw.

 

It's happened with fairly little problem in several places. The whole of Europe was awash in guns in 1945

 

I have the courage to admit the fault lies with the criminal, not the tool.


Since I’ve used guns professionally for a large portion of my life the fear and hand wringing that comes with the anti gun crowd is just amusing. People like to make excuses for the criminals, and give them special this and that. I have no use for excuses, and no excuse for anyone who won’t pick up a weapon to defend their own life or their family should push come to shove. Those who want the gov to do their dirty work are just sheep, afraid to get their hands dirty and take some risk.

 

Sure. But, Republicans oppose mental health care. And school security has not stopped these school slaughters.

Today we do totally crappy background checks and fail to prosecute even the few existing laws related to the responsibilities of gun owners.

There is LOTS to do. And, state and local congresses are blocked from taking action.

So, now Cruz and Abbott are off to the NRA convention to appeal for more campaign dollars for having demanded that NOTHING be done!

And, Trump will be there for the same reason - dollars for demanding inaction.

 

Okay, but it is not a crime to be a sheep, and a sheep has just as much value as a wolf.

And, IMO, people that are afraid to take a public stand on issues because they are afraid of reprocussions, are NOT courageous.

 

i have no problem with people who want to take a stand for things. I just have to laugh at people who think the gov will protect them from crime. In fact, the scotus ruled the police don’t have any duty to protect people. Whatever makes you happy.

 

Well you present several liberal talking points.

1. Republican oppose health mental care.

I am a registered independent. I don't buy into the false dichotomy fallacy you are presenting. Prove me wrong and provide a link to a Republican platform that opposes mental health care.

2. We employ crappy background checks.

The FBI performs the NICS check. What specifically do you think is "crappy" about NICS. Or are you just reciting a talking point?

3. Fail to prosecute existing laws relating to responsibilities of gun owners.

Be specific. What laws. Who is failing to prosecute existing laws? Surely the Joe Biden DOJ is not failing to do this?

4. State and local congresses are blocked from taking action.

Firstly I don't know any State or local government that has a "congress." Statements like this make me think you don't live in the United States or never took a government class such as used to be required to graduate from High School. In the State I live in local gun laws cannot pre-empt State laws. Which is a good thing. Of course State laws are created by elected representatives. How exactly are State Governments blocked in your opinion.

5. Cruz and Abbot are off to the NRA convention.

Glad to see they support the 2nd Amendment and the US Constitution.

6. Trump will be there for the same reason.

Glad to see Trump supports the 2nd Amendment and the US Constitution. More and more it is looking like the MAGA King will return.

 

I congratulate Beta. It was an absolutely brilliant audition for his next gig at MSNBC, since everyone knows he has no shot at being Texas' next gov.

We also know he's been thinking about dead kids for an awfully long time, as his teenage fantasies reveal (apologies if someone has already posted this):

“One day, as I was driving home from work, I noticed two children crossing the street. They were happy, happy to be free from their troubles. ... This happiness was mine by right. I had earned it in my dreams. As I neared the young ones, I put all my weight on my right foot, keeping the accelerator pedal on the floor until I heard the crashing of the two children on the hood, and then the sharp cry of pain from one of the two. I was so fascinated for a moment, that when after I had stopped my vehicle, I just sat in a daze, sweet visions filling my head.”

Beta is the woke left's pornographic embodiment of a Man's Man.

 

Beto will take whatever angle he thinks he needs to for office. He is exactly the type we dont need, not an ounce of principle to the guy.

 

Way back?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23971813/

A lot more likely now I think...

 

You made your choices, let others make theirs.

 

That's what I'm arguing, yes.

Ulyanov, on the other hand, is arguing that government men with guns need to do something so that he doesn't have to do anything.

Does he believe he is responsible to provide for his own defense? Nope. Ulyanov wants other people to do that for him. He wants to make that same choice for you. All well and good until the men with guns he wants to protect him stop taking his orders.

 

Exactly! There is nothing there!

Background checks are limited to specific issues and specific gun sales.

Sorry for calling them congresses rather than legislatures. I'm sure that totally baffled you.

Yes, denying the right to do anything IS part of the strategy.

They cry for the dead while carefully doing NOTHING to slow the slaughter.

 

And what about Abbot saying the situation could have been worse?

Imagine saying that to the families of dead children.

 

No....he's not making that argument.

 

He said:

Firearms possession bearing and use should be limited to police, military and people who will submit to stringent licensing qualifications

He is making that argument.

 

No doubt they could still be used today. I don’t think anyone currently is though.

 

We have been told more guns = less gun crime. Firearm sales have gone way up in the last few years. Texas has some of the most liberal gun laws. Yet mass shootings are on the increase. A lot of good guys with guns stood outside while children died the other day. That does not bode well for the good guy with a gun argument. I have given the Republicans and the NRA the benefit of a doubt that their policies may work. It is now clear they have failed. If it doesn’t work in Texas then I see no reason to expect it to work somewhere else.

I say this as an independent with no loyalty to the right or left.

 

Nope. Stop.

Right there you show the hypocrisy of the metaphor.

Regarding the AAA, you say they have tried to prevent drunk driving, and then switch the expectation with the NRA to say they have enabled...

Certainly you're capable of seeing the spinning and mental cartwheels you're trying to use to validate your backwards assessment.

The AAA supports car owners and their ability to operate motor vehicles. Some of those vehicles are used in crimes, some peoples use of cars even cause other people to die. Sometimes intentionally, sometimes by accident.

The NRA supports gun owners rights to own and use firearms. Some of those guns are used in crimes, some guns cause people to die both accidentally or intentionally.

In one case, you allieviate any repsonsibility of the AAA and immediatley condemn the NRA.

The issue you are having is that you support one groups mission and not the other, so you're willing to participate in mental cart wheels to defend that.

Lol. That's unhinged man. Seriously

Ok, get on voting then.

All the people that support gun ownership get a vote too. I know the left doesn't like that though, so they are desperately looking for someway to force their agenda on everybody regardless of their vote and regardless of the Constitution. Right?

 

Are you arguing that the Constitution gives people a "right" to go off on random killing sprees?
Talk about unhinged.