Biden Administration Expected to Reinstate Price Controls, Bringing Back 1970s Gas Lines, Experts Wa

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  1. RodB

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    Evidently my thought just sailed right over your head without a trace.
     
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    Then it's either a myth, badly constructed or worse, a waste.
     
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    The lefts failure just keeps piling up
     
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    Who controlled the house and senate and voted for those stimulus? Ahh... but he signed it.

    I'm not saying he didn't support it, but acting like he alone wrote the checks is ridiculous.
     
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    Because the house of reps do not represent Biden. Just because they pass a bill does not mean Biden is expected to sign off on it. Pretty simple.
     
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    Republicans controlled the senate all 4 years and dems controlled the house the last 2 years.

    When Republicans controlled both chambers, the Trump administration could not bargain and lower spending which is their fault.
     
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    How disingenuous of you and factually incorrect. Trump raised the national debt by $3.1 in his first 3 years in office and then COVID hit. The $2.3 trillion stimulus bill was non-partisan as both parties agreed since the economy was shut down. Biden then did a second stimulus bill valuing $1.9 trillion. Biden has added $3.2 trillion to the national debt since taking office. The BBB would have added nearly $2 trillion to the national debt.

    And by no means am I celebrating Trump debt... That was one of my major sticking points with his policies. However, Biden is making Trump look frugal.
     
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    How factually incorrect of you. Trump was spending more than any US president even taking out COVID, even more than Obama.
     
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    So... your changing the story now? I thought you were talking about the national debt to which I gave you emphatically correct numbers regarding the deficit. You could post where my numbers were wrong versus obtuse responses.
     
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    Yes! But, unfortunately they are winning.
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh, I thought it was law. My bad. So why is Biden saying he is going to use it? Is he just his normal mixed up self??? Or just looking toward the future drooling over another destructive thing he can do?
     
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    Not changing my story at all. Trump has added more debt than any US president. $8.2 trillion in 4 years. More than Obama spent in 8 years. Take away the stimulus bills and Trump was still spending more than Obama.
     
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    Where does Biden say he is going to put in gas caps?
     
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    Holy moronic nightmare talk .. have you sat back and thought about what you are saying --- how nonsensical it is .. even for a moment ?

    Rather than try to fix the bridge .. lets wait for the thing to collapse dumping the train into the gorge .. before we freak out over what "MIGHT" happen .. your words .. not mine
     
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    But that is factually wrong. Merely making up numbers does not help your argument.

    Obama took office in 2017 and the national debt was $11 trillion. By the time he exited in 2017, the national debt was $20 trillion. Debt increase of $9 trillion (70% total debt change)
    Trump took office in 2017 with a national debt of $20 trillion. He left office in 2020 with a deficit of $27 trillion, however, $1.9 trillion (Biden stimulus) and another $1.2 trillion (infrastructure bill) was Biden's in 2020 leaving $3.9 trillion as Trumps deficit. Even is you leave in Biden's spending in 2020 against Trump, Trumps debt change was 34%. Take out Biden's contribution in spending in 2020, Trump debt change percentage is 18%.

    The current deficit today is $30.5 trillion and at the rate of spending currently, Biden will make Trumps spending look frugal!!

    But hey... good luck with those made up numbers...
     
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    :roflol:
    "however, $1.9 trillion (Biden stimulus) and another $1.2 trillion (infrastructure bill) was Biden's in 2020"
    ^Nice Try, But TOTALLY WRONG!
     
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    See here is where your numbers are wrong. Trump is responsible for FY 2021 spending, which was approved in October 2020 when Trump was president. So you are taking out Trump spending in 2021 and putting it on Biden for no reason.

    https://www.science.org/content/art...ng-bill-leaves-research-advocates-hoping-more
     
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    Once the poster looks at the math again, they will just say Trump added to thr debt because dems made him.
     
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    But he's not bombastic and most crucially, he DOESN'T TWEET :D
     
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    He addressed it that even if we attribute that to Trump(who never enjoyed a House that was even remotely approachable. Remember, we were consumed with the conspiracy theory of a century.) His spending rate is still lower than these last two years of Biden. After the Republicans failed to do anything despite Trump going as far as Paid Family leave(which if Republicans had taken advantage of, they could've droven a stake in the democrats political game plan), then we had the worst Speaker in world history whose more focused on her own power then anything good for the nation.
     
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    The first 2 years both chambers were controlled by republicans. How did that end up? $2.5 trillion added to the deficit. So far, in Biden's first year, the deficit is expected to be about $1 trillion, still lower than Trump. Biden's spending bills don't count because people never include COVID spending when talking about Trump's debt.

    Oh but don't forget, Trump isn't responsible for the fiscal budget, but democrat presidents like Obama and Biden are.

    You guys are even erroneously taking out Trump spending and putting it on Biden because MSM lies to you guys and says only dems spend.
     
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    Again, he accounted for putting the whole tab on Trump and it's still lower than President Lame Duck. No one's excusing Trump, President Lame Duck is the worst commander in 100 years. Owe up to it, face it, and help your fellow American out by voting him out in 2024.
     
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    No he didn't. He didn't include FY 2021 deficit which is on Trump. Trump left office in 2020, but FY 2021 budget is signed in 2020.
     
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    Let's put it this way FY2023 and fy2024 are unlikely to see reductions unless Republicans somehow win back the House/Senate in overwhelming numbers.
    President Lameduck is presiding over this failure. What was it about the 'buck stops with me'?
     
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    Let's put it this way. People are putting the FY 2021 budget deficit onto Biden because they cannot comprehend the previous administration adding 8 trillion to the national debt without their party noticing. Who does the buck stop with? I get difference answers from the same people. One day it's the president, but the next day it's Congress depending on which president we are talking about.
     

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