Biden or Trump November 2020

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Biden or Trump November 2020?

  1. Biden

    23 vote(s)
    29.5%
  2. Trump

    55 vote(s)
    70.5%
  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    About 3/4 alt right, yes. Notice how easy it is for their opponents to rebut their argumentation.
     
  2. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't have an argument. You just keep saying that you're excited to vote for Sexual Predator Biden.
     
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    BAIZUO RACISM IS A REAL PROBLEM.

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    In modern America race-talk is mostly a means by which white people compete for status with other white people.

    The VP candidate will be Kamala Harris. Biden to attract the black vote. Harris to attract the white vote.
     
  4. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    It WON'T Matter.

    Biden WILL WIN.
     
  5. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You guys never learn from your guarantees. Election after election. lol
     
  6. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only if you count being puerile
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/puerile
    then defending it as a rebut of quality.



    How about something more;
    such as employment statistics.

    Obama-vs-Trump.jpg

    Add to that Black unemployment
    since Democrats must incessantly categorize :flagus:s


    Moi
    :oldman:






    Don't :flagcanada:ize
    :flagus: :salute:
     
  7. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    Moi621 is so easy to rebut.

    Trump job approval: 44.5% and going down. Obama over 50% at the end of his admin and now over 60%
    Trump has lost 21mm jobs and it is going down, whereas Obama added 11mm.
    Trump UE at 9% now and will be over 20% by 1 July, where as Obama had turned a 10.2% into 4.5 when he left office.
    Trump now has added 5 to 6 Trillion to the deficit, more than twice the Obama GOP Congress.
    Trump has never had 3.0% annual GDP growth but will have a -1.9 by 1 July, whereas Obama had an almost 2.0 GDP overall.
     
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  8. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To author in your puerile quality reply format, previously,
    as taught to me by @Sallyally :heart:



    Nuh - Uh !
    :blowkiss:
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Succinct!
     
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    Needs repeating.

    Moi621 is so easy to rebut.

    Trump job approval: 44.5% and going down. Obama over 50% at the end of his admin and now over 60%
    Trump has lost 21mm jobs and it is going down, whereas Obama added 11mm.
    Trump UE at 9% now and will be over 20% by 1 July, where as Obama had turned a 10.2% into 4.5 when he left office.
    Trump now has added 5 to 6 Trillion to the deficit, more than twice the Obama GOP Congress.
    Trump has never had 3.0% annual GDP growth but will have a -1.9 by 1 July, whereas Obama had an almost 2.0 GDP overall.
     
  11. Moi621

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    Nuh - Uh


    Just express ala @JakeStarkey

    As easy as earlier @JakeStarkey puerile replies. ;)
     
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    See, you cannot refute the stats, Moi621. "Nuh - uh" is going to get your candidate beaten very, very badly this fall.

    From this month's polls,

    RCP Average 4/1 - 4/21 -- 46.0 50.7 -4.7
    Economist/YouGov 4/19 - 4/21 1144 RV 46 51 -5
    Rasmussen Reports 4/19 - 4/21 1500 LV 44 55 -11
    The Hill/HarrisX 4/19 - 4/20 958 RV 50 50 Tie
    Politico/Morning Consult 4/18 - 4/19 1991 RV 44 51 -7
    Harvard-Harris 4/14 - 4/16 2394 RV 49 51 -2
    NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 4/13 - 4/15 900 RV 46 51 -5
    Reuters/Ipsos 4/13 - 4/14 937 RV 46 51 -5
    Gallup 4/1 - 4/14 1017 A 43 54 -11
    FOX News 4/4 - 4/7 1107 RV 49 49 Tie
    Monmouth 4/3 - 4/7 743 RV 46 49 -3
    CNBC 4/3 - 4/6 804 A 46 43 +3
    CNN 4/3 - 4/6 875 RV 44 53 -9

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
     
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    Trump is Toast.
     
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    Trump is just not consistent.

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    Yup. Criminal Digits Beijing Biden is unfit for the job. He used to pretend to be all for border security.

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    Video Of Joe Biden Railing Against “Illegals,” Calling For 700-Mile Border Fence In 2006 Goes Viral

    “Folks, I voted for a fence,” Biden can be heard saying, referencing his backing of the Secure Fence Act. “I voted, unlike most Democrats ― and some of you won’t like it ― I voted for 700 miles of fence. But, let me tell you, we can build a fence 40 stories high ― unless you change the dynamic in Mexico and ― and you will not like this, and ― punish American employers who knowingly violate the law when, in fact, they hire illegals. Unless you do those two things, all the rest is window dressing.”

    Biden continues, “Now, I know I’m not supposed to say it that bluntly, but they’re the facts, they’re the facts,” Biden told the crowd during his previous 2008 bid for the presidential election. “And so everything else we do is in between here. Everything else we do is at the margins. And the reason why I add that parenthetically, why I believe the fence is needed does not have anything to do with immigration as much as drugs.”

    Biden then stated that “people are driving across that border with tons, tons, hear me, tons of everything from byproducts for methamphetamine to cocaine to heroin, and it’s all coming up through corrupt Mexico.”
     
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    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-losing-edge-over-trump-110432636.html
    Biden losing edge over Trump amid virus, poll reveals

    New poll has revealed that Joe Biden’s advantage in popular support over President Trump has been eroding in recent weeks.



    Really, how could it be otherwise ;)
    People have more faith in Trump's ability to rehab the economy.


    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-edge-evaporates-trump-seen-000336671.html

    Biden's edge evaporates as Trump seen as better suited for economy, coronavirus response, poll shows

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - Joe Biden's advantage over President Donald Trump in popular support has eroded in recent weeks as the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee struggles for visibility with voters during the coronavirus pandemic, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Tuesday.

    The opinion poll conducted on Monday and Tuesday found that 43% of registered voters said they would support Biden in the Nov. 3 presidential election, while 41% said they would back Trump. That makes the contest essentially a toss-up, as the results are within the poll's credibility interval.

    Biden led by 6 percentage points in a similar poll last week and by 8 points in a poll that ran April 15 to 21.





     
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    Polls 6 months out mean nothing.

    Polls won't even really matter until Swing State Polls taken in Late October.
     
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    I think this is mere cheerleading. Nothing more.

    Of course, the same in reverse is true: Anyone who claims, with absolute certainty, that Trump will win in November, is also cheerleading--not viewing the matter analytically.

    President Trump's ratings are slightly up now--but still rather low.

    The assumption, however, that the electoral vote will automatically align itself with the popular vote, strikes me as being rather bizarre.

    Not too long ago, Larry Sabato--a political analyst whom I respect--gave Trump 247 electoral votes (either solid or leaning); an unnamed Democrat (this was prior to Bernie Sanders' dropping out of the race), 247 electoral votes also; and the rest up for grabs.

    Sabato has since given Joe Biden (now, the presumptive nominee) a slight edge.

    But it is still too early to tell, with any degree of certainty.
     
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    It will be "still too early to tell" until the final returns are counted on Election Night and one person gets to 270.
     
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    Same here.
     
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    Literally, this is correct.

    But come October--not too far away from Election Day--I will put much more stock in the polls than I do now. (President Trump breezily dismisses them--and I suppose that he may have some justification, since they just about all had him losing in 2016--but I do think they are useful, if taken closer to the election.)
     
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    If taken closer to Election Day, I do think that polls can be useful--although not infallible, even then.

    But there is a logical fallacy known as cherry picking. You might wish to consider this, before you tout the one poll (which is an outlier) that has a nine-point spread between these two candidates.

    Also, you might do well to look at the electoral map--which states are deep blue; which states are light blue; which states are deep red; which states are light red; and which states are purple.

    Perhaps most importantly, you might want to consult the serious analysts (i.e. Larry Sabato; Charlie Cook; Nate Silver; Scott Rasmussen; Stu Rothenberg; et al.), rather than merely confusing desires with serious analysis.
     
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    Only a 2.5/1 Trump backer advantage now? They're in big trouble. It takes way more than 2.5 jackals to take down each lion.

    The Trumpers need at least a 10 to 1 advantage if they want to have any chance of smothering liberal voices by drowning them out in overwhelming cascades of nonsense. It's not like they can use facts and reason, so a dogpile is the only tactic left to them. And at 2.5 to 1, they don't have nearly the numbers they need to make a dogpile work.
     
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    Did someone invite Hillary to this thread? lol
     
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